kramersteen
PowerMetalRaph
Re: Paint alternatives
$1000 for a paint job is just stupid. You would have to be brain dead to pay that.
$1000 for a paint job is just stupid. You would have to be brain dead to pay that.
Paint alternatives
- Thread starter knight_yyz
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kramersteen
PowerMetalRaph
Re: Paint alternatives
Yeah i guess you can spend a bit of time doing all that. I take my own labor for granted i think. :drive:
Yeah i guess you can spend a bit of time doing all that. I take my own labor for granted i think. :drive:
knight_yyz
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Re: Paint alternatives
So I sent out about 15 emails last night and everyone outside Canada says, the only way to ship NC Lacquer is by ground. So Europe can not ship to Canada, and no one in the USA is willing to ship ground either. (paperwork) According to a few places I have been in touch with in Canada say it is not allowed in Canada. But Goudy MFG does sell it in spray cans if you can provide a color sample. They are in Toronto, and they mainly do furniture so they are allowed to sell the NC lacquer for furniture. SMH. So I will keep that in mind, but i'd prefer to buy the paint and spray it with an air brush or sprayer.
I am going to contact Sherwin Williams and see what they can do for me.
i think there is a special car quest in hamilton that does automotive paint stuff so i will contact them as well.
And yes i know 1000 for a paint job is crazy, that's why I am in here. ;-)
So I sent out about 15 emails last night and everyone outside Canada says, the only way to ship NC Lacquer is by ground. So Europe can not ship to Canada, and no one in the USA is willing to ship ground either. (paperwork) According to a few places I have been in touch with in Canada say it is not allowed in Canada. But Goudy MFG does sell it in spray cans if you can provide a color sample. They are in Toronto, and they mainly do furniture so they are allowed to sell the NC lacquer for furniture. SMH. So I will keep that in mind, but i'd prefer to buy the paint and spray it with an air brush or sprayer.
I am going to contact Sherwin Williams and see what they can do for me.
i think there is a special car quest in hamilton that does automotive paint stuff so i will contact them as well.
And yes i know 1000 for a paint job is crazy, that's why I am in here. ;-)
treyhaislip
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Re: Paint alternatives
Sorry you are having trouble finding the right stuff. Best of luck on getting what you need!
Sorry you are having trouble finding the right stuff. Best of luck on getting what you need!
ItsaBass
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treyhaislip
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treyhaislip
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Re: Paint alternatives
From the thread it looks like he will not be able to get the specific Fender Customer Color and the cost to get it painted was quoted $600-$1,000. Those of us suggesting oil hand rubbed finish are giving an alternative to painting that could potentially save $600-$1,000...just a suggestion to spending a ton of money on a $200 guitar
From the thread it looks like he will not be able to get the specific Fender Customer Color and the cost to get it painted was quoted $600-$1,000. Those of us suggesting oil hand rubbed finish are giving an alternative to painting that could potentially save $600-$1,000...just a suggestion to spending a ton of money on a $200 guitar
ItsaBass
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Re: Paint alternatives
He is not going to spend that much, and never was. It is agreed by all that those quotes are out of line. And of course he can get the color. Any paint house can make it if he just provides a sample and/or a code that they recognize.
If dirt cheap is really the aim, then he will get 1,000x closer to what he wants by just spraying the thing with the closest cheap spray paint color he can get locally, than he will by stripping and oil finishing it. Oil simply has nothing to do with anything the OP is talking about. It's pretty much the exact opposite of what he wants, which is a hard candy-shell solid color paint job. The only thing that could be farther away from that than an oil finish would be a completely unfinished guitar. I understand that finishing with oil is great, and I agree. But it has no possible application in this case.
He is not going to spend that much, and never was. It is agreed by all that those quotes are out of line. And of course he can get the color. Any paint house can make it if he just provides a sample and/or a code that they recognize.
If dirt cheap is really the aim, then he will get 1,000x closer to what he wants by just spraying the thing with the closest cheap spray paint color he can get locally, than he will by stripping and oil finishing it. Oil simply has nothing to do with anything the OP is talking about. It's pretty much the exact opposite of what he wants, which is a hard candy-shell solid color paint job. The only thing that could be farther away from that than an oil finish would be a completely unfinished guitar. I understand that finishing with oil is great, and I agree. But it has no possible application in this case.
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El Supremo
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Re: Paint alternatives
Gotta love that boogerburst
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I did this guitar without any paint just clear.
Gotta love that boogerburst
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treyhaislip
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Re: Paint alternatives
Last time I checked, and oil finish is an alternative to a paint finish. The original post asked for help because of both price and availability. Oil finish is a solution to refinishing the guitar very cheaply without any customs laws in affect. While not what the original post is looking for, it is a very cheap alternative for a $200 guitar.
Last time I checked, and oil finish is an alternative to a paint finish. The original post asked for help because of both price and availability. Oil finish is a solution to refinishing the guitar very cheaply without any customs laws in affect. While not what the original post is looking for, it is a very cheap alternative for a $200 guitar.
treyhaislip
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Re: Paint alternatives
From the original post, "Any help or incite is appreciated guys."
Oil finish that is a cheaper solution to both price and availability falls under any help...
From the original post, "Any help or incite is appreciated guys."
Oil finish that is a cheaper solution to both price and availability falls under any help...
ItsaBass
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Re: Paint alternatives
That approach makes it seem as if all you read was the title of the thread. He didn't ask for alternatives to The Variety of Products Commonly Classified as Paint (A.K.A. "paint"), as in alternative forms of finishing. He asked for the next best paint to nitro lacquer. He clearly stated that he wanted to use paint, and that he wanted to spray it. While his investigative and research skills might need some direction, he obviously has a pretty good idea of what he wants...and an oil finish is about as far from it as it gets.
As for "any help," you are reading that dead literally. Obviously he doesn't want "any help," period. He wants "any help" that helps him achieve his specific goal. Additionally, I don't consider the suggestion of an oil finish to someone looking for a sprayable solid-color paint to be "help" at all.
Still, I don't have some problem with it being mentioned briefly on the first page. But to come back later in the thread and question the OP for not taking the off-the-wall suggestion is ****ing ****ty.
That approach makes it seem as if all you read was the title of the thread. He didn't ask for alternatives to The Variety of Products Commonly Classified as Paint (A.K.A. "paint"), as in alternative forms of finishing. He asked for the next best paint to nitro lacquer. He clearly stated that he wanted to use paint, and that he wanted to spray it. While his investigative and research skills might need some direction, he obviously has a pretty good idea of what he wants...and an oil finish is about as far from it as it gets.
As for "any help," you are reading that dead literally. Obviously he doesn't want "any help," period. He wants "any help" that helps him achieve his specific goal. Additionally, I don't consider the suggestion of an oil finish to someone looking for a sprayable solid-color paint to be "help" at all.
Still, I don't have some problem with it being mentioned briefly on the first page. But to come back later in the thread and question the OP for not taking the off-the-wall suggestion is ****ing ****ty.
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treyhaislip
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I quoted not only the title but also the original post. If people giving advice that is not exactly what is asked offends you then I suggest you stay off forums on the internet. Also, I've always understood "any help" to mean, well, any help. And an oil finish is a cheaper alternative to painting. The original post mentioned price and the guitar only being $200. I was not the only one suggesting an oil finish–it is cheap, can look awesome, doesn't violate any custom laws, and doesn't have the restrictions/availability issues that nitro has. So again, if that offends you then I suggest you get off the internet to prevent being offended further.
I quoted not only the title but also the original post. If people giving advice that is not exactly what is asked offends you then I suggest you stay off forums on the internet. Also, I've always understood "any help" to mean, well, any help. And an oil finish is a cheaper alternative to painting. The original post mentioned price and the guitar only being $200. I was not the only one suggesting an oil finish–it is cheap, can look awesome, doesn't violate any custom laws, and doesn't have the restrictions/availability issues that nitro has. So again, if that offends you then I suggest you get off the internet to prevent being offended further.
Natman
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Re: Paint alternatives
Hey OP: where in Canada are you? If you're quotung 12th fret I'm guessing GTA. You can get Reranch produvproducts if you drive across the border and get them yourself. PM me if you need to know more. 100% legal and trouble-free except for the added cost of gas, exchange rate and taxes when you return (assuming you declare). I'm in Montreal and been doingv this for 12 years.
Hey OP: where in Canada are you? If you're quotung 12th fret I'm guessing GTA. You can get Reranch produvproducts if you drive across the border and get them yourself. PM me if you need to know more. 100% legal and trouble-free except for the added cost of gas, exchange rate and taxes when you return (assuming you declare). I'm in Montreal and been doingv this for 12 years.
ItsaBass
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Re: Paint alternatives
That response doesn't follow. If you had understood the OP's meaning, you wouldn't be pounding the oil issue into the ground now.
Additionally, this is not about personal offense or about the Internet.
As I stated, I can see oil being mentioned in the thread, however off track it might be. But to press the issue after it is clear the OP has no interest, and after he has made it clear from post number one that he wants something almost entirely unrelated is just plain annoying and stubborn.
That response doesn't follow. If you had understood the OP's meaning, you wouldn't be pounding the oil issue into the ground now.
Additionally, this is not about personal offense or about the Internet.
As I stated, I can see oil being mentioned in the thread, however off track it might be. But to press the issue after it is clear the OP has no interest, and after he has made it clear from post number one that he wants something almost entirely unrelated is just plain annoying and stubborn.
treyhaislip
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Re: Paint alternatives
Sounds like someone annoys very easily... :flowers1:
Not personal? :bsflag: why keep on posting about how completely opposite oil is if it is not personal? The original post asked for any help and insights (corrective spelling) and a couple of us offered oil as a cheap alternative. You didn't like that and I gave my reason...the $600-$1,000 savings on a $200 guitar. You didn't like that so you posted a response to which I posted a response etc. :argue: We can keep going on if you like
Its knight_yyz's thread, and I will assume he would rather have a post about a cheap alternative/insight rather than you and me going back and forth
Sounds like someone annoys very easily... :flowers1:
Not personal? :bsflag: why keep on posting about how completely opposite oil is if it is not personal? The original post asked for any help and insights (corrective spelling) and a couple of us offered oil as a cheap alternative. You didn't like that and I gave my reason...the $600-$1,000 savings on a $200 guitar. You didn't like that so you posted a response to which I posted a response etc. :argue: We can keep going on if you like
Its knight_yyz's thread, and I will assume he would rather have a post about a cheap alternative/insight rather than you and me going back and forth
