"Paranoid" - Black Sabbath (video, Shure SM7B)
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Kamanda~SD
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Re: "Paranoid" - Black Sabbath (video, Shure SM7B)
Where's the Ozzy slapback?
Honestly, this one suffers from poor timing. Just a bit off but it wavers enough to be bothersome. As far as the mix, would be nice to have the vocals sit in there a bit rather than being 'ontop' to really get the context. Sounds like there's some saturation going on too (not a bad thing) and could use some EQ to get rid of some of that muddiness and add some air.
IMO, not your best, but keep em comin!
Where's the Ozzy slapback?
Honestly, this one suffers from poor timing. Just a bit off but it wavers enough to be bothersome. As far as the mix, would be nice to have the vocals sit in there a bit rather than being 'ontop' to really get the context. Sounds like there's some saturation going on too (not a bad thing) and could use some EQ to get rid of some of that muddiness and add some air.
IMO, not your best, but keep em comin!
everdrone
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Re: "Paranoid" - Black Sabbath (video, Shure SM7B)
Thanks my friend, you have a great ear!
This song gets a lot of radio play so I see how these matters are more of a concern here. your comments are spot on, those things you said are exactly correct, even down to the ozzy slapback lol :banana:
Thanks my friend, you have a great ear!
This song gets a lot of radio play so I see how these matters are more of a concern here. your comments are spot on, those things you said are exactly correct, even down to the ozzy slapback lol :banana:
Kamanda~SD
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Re: "Paranoid" - Black Sabbath (video, Shure SM7B)
I also know you post for actual constructive criticism rather than 'look at me'. Your improvement since you've started posting proves this.
I also know you post for actual constructive criticism rather than 'look at me'. Your improvement since you've started posting proves this.
Shooter.556
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Re: "Paranoid" - Black Sabbath (video, Shure SM7B)
I think you're pushing too hard on this one. The timing is a little off, you're not sitting in the beat right or something, the the groove of your vocals is just a wee little bit off from the groove of the music..
It's like almost there but just off enough to notice it lol! Maybe relax and breath more, try to open up and relax your throat..
Maybe sing this a few times thru a monitor or with headphones and have his vocals in the mix, that may help you nail the timing..
I've seen Ozzy many times and he is always kinds chill with his vocals, it just kinda comes out for him..
Ozzy is like the Rainman of metal anyway, he is a tough style to nail.. You kinda gotta take his songs and make em your own when you do his arrangements,
Just my 2 cents, good job dude!
I can only sing when I am in my car or ****ty drunk..
I think you're pushing too hard on this one. The timing is a little off, you're not sitting in the beat right or something, the the groove of your vocals is just a wee little bit off from the groove of the music..
It's like almost there but just off enough to notice it lol! Maybe relax and breath more, try to open up and relax your throat..
Maybe sing this a few times thru a monitor or with headphones and have his vocals in the mix, that may help you nail the timing..
I've seen Ozzy many times and he is always kinds chill with his vocals, it just kinda comes out for him..
Ozzy is like the Rainman of metal anyway, he is a tough style to nail.. You kinda gotta take his songs and make em your own when you do his arrangements,
Just my 2 cents, good job dude!
I can only sing when I am in my car or ****ty drunk..
everdrone
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Re: "Paranoid" - Black Sabbath (video, Shure SM7B)
cool brutha, thanks, I see you put some thought into this comment Shooter.556, this is helpful :headbang:
ya ozzy does not push as hard as I did on it, when I watch my video, my timing makes me space out
I want a nice rasp but its just me pinching the end of the chord, my singer friends tell me that, so I gotta back off and I am buying a skype camera today so I can get internet lessons, I know folks here have offered so I gotta buy it
I agree with monitor/headphones with him, I do that to warm up to play the song, then switch out his vocals and put my vocals in the mix. Im glad for this feedback
cheers :beerchug:
cool brutha, thanks, I see you put some thought into this comment Shooter.556, this is helpful :headbang:
ya ozzy does not push as hard as I did on it, when I watch my video, my timing makes me space out
I want a nice rasp but its just me pinching the end of the chord, my singer friends tell me that, so I gotta back off and I am buying a skype camera today so I can get internet lessons, I know folks here have offered so I gotta buy it
I agree with monitor/headphones with him, I do that to warm up to play the song, then switch out his vocals and put my vocals in the mix. Im glad for this feedback
cheers :beerchug:
Shooter.556
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Re: "Paranoid" - Black Sabbath (video, Shure SM7B)
Thats kinda my little secret for performing songs I struggled with. I'd put the vocals in a monitor and keep my groove off of that until I had it down.
Doing covers is always thought of as easy but nothing is further from the truth. Going from song to song while trying to learn the range and phrasing of 50 different singers is hard work..
Growl here and soulful there all the while trying to be kinda you lol! That ain't easy, coming from, my world of growing up on bluegrass and country and singing since childhood then discovering rock was really hard, that is how I learned all this. Even in 4/4 time the way the lyrics sit in the measure in country as opposed to rock is two different things. Once country went to Nashville pop that all went away and basically country songs are rock songs now but you try to sing Allen Jackson then go to Alice in Chains and it's different.. They add little ghost words in country almost like a ghost note on guitar that complete the measure and it'll kick your ass every time!
I figured out if you listen to the phrasing you can put the song in the beat where it needs to be.
I have never had any formal vocal training, I grew up singing in church and my neighbors and half my family was a bluegrass and country band. I learned the basics from that experience and have applied that to music throughout my life. I come from Appalachia in Southeast Kentucky and music is part of the culture there..
good work bro! You're getting there.. I have been watching your videos for a while and I just felt compelled to talk now.. You are developing very well!
Thats kinda my little secret for performing songs I struggled with. I'd put the vocals in a monitor and keep my groove off of that until I had it down.
Doing covers is always thought of as easy but nothing is further from the truth. Going from song to song while trying to learn the range and phrasing of 50 different singers is hard work..
Growl here and soulful there all the while trying to be kinda you lol! That ain't easy, coming from, my world of growing up on bluegrass and country and singing since childhood then discovering rock was really hard, that is how I learned all this. Even in 4/4 time the way the lyrics sit in the measure in country as opposed to rock is two different things. Once country went to Nashville pop that all went away and basically country songs are rock songs now but you try to sing Allen Jackson then go to Alice in Chains and it's different.. They add little ghost words in country almost like a ghost note on guitar that complete the measure and it'll kick your ass every time!
I figured out if you listen to the phrasing you can put the song in the beat where it needs to be.
I have never had any formal vocal training, I grew up singing in church and my neighbors and half my family was a bluegrass and country band. I learned the basics from that experience and have applied that to music throughout my life. I come from Appalachia in Southeast Kentucky and music is part of the culture there..
good work bro! You're getting there.. I have been watching your videos for a while and I just felt compelled to talk now.. You are developing very well!
DankStar
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Re: "Paranoid" - Black Sabbath (video, Shure SM7B)
Music sounds cool. You're close with the vox but I'd say they're too dry and too loud, and I agree with the previous timing comments. Probably nothing a little herb wouldn't cure.
Better than I could do BTW
Music sounds cool. You're close with the vox but I'd say they're too dry and too loud, and I agree with the previous timing comments. Probably nothing a little herb wouldn't cure.
Better than I could do BTW
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