toneseeker74
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Anyone try this? Seems like it would match up nicely with a medium hot bridge humbucker.
Pearly Gates bridge used in neck position
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Rockstar216
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Re: Pearly Gates bridge used in neck position
I do and yea it will match. What is the bridge bucker in question?
I do and yea it will match. What is the bridge bucker in question?
toneseeker74
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Re: Pearly Gates bridge used in neck position
Haven't chosen a bridge bucker yet, but I have a JB, Distortion, and Screamin Demon. And I'm totally comfortable with magnet swapping.
Haven't chosen a bridge bucker yet, but I have a JB, Distortion, and Screamin Demon. And I'm totally comfortable with magnet swapping.
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Rockstar216
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Ok. One thing I did do on mine was swap the A2 to UOA5 to get a bit more high end but you may like it with the A2 in the neck. In stock form it sounded great but me I personally wanted a bit more treble for what I play.
Ok. One thing I did do on mine was swap the A2 to UOA5 to get a bit more high end but you may like it with the A2 in the neck. In stock form it sounded great but me I personally wanted a bit more treble for what I play.
audiocheck
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back in the 70's, didn't Gibson just put the same pickups in both neck and bridge?
back in the 70's, didn't Gibson just put the same pickups in both neck and bridge?
ItsaBass
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'50's, '60's, '70's, '80's. Fender too. Pretty much all pickups from all companies, AFAIK. It does sound noticeably better to me than matched sets. That's subjective, of course, but it's what I expect from a guitar, since I "came up" on a '68 SG (still have it, and it's bone stock), and I've had a '68 330 for over a decade now.
The thing is, which PG was designed first? In other words, is the bridge model "normal" and the neck model under-wound, or is the neck model "normal" and the bridge model over-wound? To match what Gibson did, you'd want to get two of the "normal" ones.
In response to the OP, it'll be just like a neck PG, but even thicker. I'm sure you can make it work if your expectations are realistic. But it will not be ideal if you like to play full chords with the neck humbucker. Hell, even the neck model PG isn't ideal for that.
'50's, '60's, '70's, '80's. Fender too. Pretty much all pickups from all companies, AFAIK. It does sound noticeably better to me than matched sets. That's subjective, of course, but it's what I expect from a guitar, since I "came up" on a '68 SG (still have it, and it's bone stock), and I've had a '68 330 for over a decade now.
The thing is, which PG was designed first? In other words, is the bridge model "normal" and the neck model under-wound, or is the neck model "normal" and the bridge model over-wound? To match what Gibson did, you'd want to get two of the "normal" ones.
In response to the OP, it'll be just like a neck PG, but even thicker. I'm sure you can make it work if your expectations are realistic. But it will not be ideal if you like to play full chords with the neck humbucker. Hell, even the neck model PG isn't ideal for that.
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blueman335
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Be aware that when you do that, you give up some treble in the process. PGN's are fairly warm, and using a PGB in the neck slot means it'll be warmer still. Same goes for '59's, Seth's, A2P's, etc. Bridge PU's are wound hotter to give more output and warmth to that position (which is inherently bright, sharp, and weak). If you like warm neck PU's with rounded high-ends, do it. I go in the other direction and try to get more treble out of my neck HB's, as I like them to have some bite.
Be aware that when you do that, you give up some treble in the process. PGN's are fairly warm, and using a PGB in the neck slot means it'll be warmer still. Same goes for '59's, Seth's, A2P's, etc. Bridge PU's are wound hotter to give more output and warmth to that position (which is inherently bright, sharp, and weak). If you like warm neck PU's with rounded high-ends, do it. I go in the other direction and try to get more treble out of my neck HB's, as I like them to have some bite.
toneseeker74
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Re: Pearly Gates bridge used in neck position
All good food for thought. Thank you all!:fing2:
All good food for thought. Thank you all!:fing2:
GAS-a-holic
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Re: Pearly Gates bridge used in neck position
FWIW, I have used a PGb in the neck on a Carvin DC127 and DC400 (alder bodies w/maple tops, ebony fretboards) with a CC in the bridge. It's the onlyguitar I've used that combination with, but I got excellent results. I think as long as you take the wood combination into account, you should be fine.
FWIW, I have used a PGb in the neck on a Carvin DC127 and DC400 (alder bodies w/maple tops, ebony fretboards) with a CC in the bridge. It's the onlyguitar I've used that combination with, but I got excellent results. I think as long as you take the wood combination into account, you should be fine.
Re: Pearly Gates bridge used in neck position
I had a PGb in the neck position of a PRS cu24. Sounded better than the stock pickup, really smooth and fluid. I paired it with a DD in the bridge. The output match, but tonally the PGb is too soft and warm for the DD. A JB or a custom/CC would probably match better.
I had a PGb in the neck position of a PRS cu24. Sounded better than the stock pickup, really smooth and fluid. I paired it with a DD in the bridge. The output match, but tonally the PGb is too soft and warm for the DD. A JB or a custom/CC would probably match better.
Progbusters
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I just did this last night on my Ibanez RG. PGb in the neck with the humbucker upside down (screws near the neck). Sounds warm and bright and smooth. I like it. Also matches the output of my louder Dimarzio bridge pup.
I just did this last night on my Ibanez RG. PGb in the neck with the humbucker upside down (screws near the neck). Sounds warm and bright and smooth. I like it. Also matches the output of my louder Dimarzio bridge pup.
Lewguitar
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Re: Pearly Gates bridge used in neck position
The PGn is my favorite Duncan neck pickup, but I think putting a PGb in the neck position is a great idea if you're trying to match a hot bridge pickup.
I've owned a few paf's from the 50's and most measured around 8K or even 8.2K DCR.
If the bridge PGb measures about 8.3K then it's right in there with what's normal for a genuine 50's paf.
Personally, I'd go with a PGn as a neck pickup just because I like a cleaner, clearer tone from my neck pickup when I play chords.
But if the OP is a rocker and not a blues or jazz guy, the PGb might be perfect.
The PGn is my favorite Duncan neck pickup, but I think putting a PGb in the neck position is a great idea if you're trying to match a hot bridge pickup.
I've owned a few paf's from the 50's and most measured around 8K or even 8.2K DCR.
If the bridge PGb measures about 8.3K then it's right in there with what's normal for a genuine 50's paf.
Personally, I'd go with a PGn as a neck pickup just because I like a cleaner, clearer tone from my neck pickup when I play chords.
But if the OP is a rocker and not a blues or jazz guy, the PGb might be perfect.
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Rockstar216
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Re: Pearly Gates bridge used in neck position
The PGb in the neck works well for blues, Jazz, and rock. Actually with the stock A2 it worked very well for blues and Jazz and light rock.
The PGb in the neck works well for blues, Jazz, and rock. Actually with the stock A2 it worked very well for blues and Jazz and light rock.
Texas Jack
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Separate issue... I have heard lots of great things about SD Pearly Gates pick ups. I have an authentic 1973 Ibanez pre-lawsuit Les Paul with Maxon Super 70's. It's bone stock, but it looks almost identical to the 59 PG LP reissue. Only thing I've done to it is change strings to (7's) like Billy Gibbons uses. I've been thinking about switching out the Super 70's for SD Pearly Gates to more closely mimic the coveted 59 Gibson LP Billy Gibbons Pearly Gates reissue set up. I'm playing through an older Crate VC30 2-channel tube amp without any other add-ons. Would it be worth the expense?
Separate issue... I have heard lots of great things about SD Pearly Gates pick ups. I have an authentic 1973 Ibanez pre-lawsuit Les Paul with Maxon Super 70's. It's bone stock, but it looks almost identical to the 59 PG LP reissue. Only thing I've done to it is change strings to (7's) like Billy Gibbons uses. I've been thinking about switching out the Super 70's for SD Pearly Gates to more closely mimic the coveted 59 Gibson LP Billy Gibbons Pearly Gates reissue set up. I'm playing through an older Crate VC30 2-channel tube amp without any other add-ons. Would it be worth the expense?
dr.barlo
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Re: Pearly Gates bridge used in neck position
At one point in time I had more than a dozen of PG's... And I still keep 2 of them, a 8.00K and a 8.05K. Both used in the neck. I had one that measured 7.95K. I wanted to keep it but it was white you know...
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I love PGB's in the neck slot. And the highs are alright. I just set it a bit lower and tilt the side underneath the plain strings a bit more.
Here is how the 8.05K sounds in the neck of my PRS McCarty (while playing on some backtrack)
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At one point in time I had more than a dozen of PG's... And I still keep 2 of them, a 8.00K and a 8.05K. Both used in the neck. I had one that measured 7.95K. I wanted to keep it but it was white you know...
:banghead:
I love PGB's in the neck slot. And the highs are alright. I just set it a bit lower and tilt the side underneath the plain strings a bit more.
Here is how the 8.05K sounds in the neck of my PRS McCarty (while playing on some backtrack)
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