Pearly gates in a 335.

Chickenwings

Alnico 6/8
Ive been wanting to try a set of PG's since i think 1985. lol...no rush hey?

They currently reside in my 335. Really really good pickups. Vintage feel and sounds with the right amount of muscle in the right places and a forgiving feel.

There is a big contrast between the bridge and the neck pickups. The bridge has a really cool snarl in exactly the right frequency range. I find that i can roll use the tone control much more effectively now to dial in just the right amount of bite. The bridge is a nice contrast in that it is voiced deeper and warmer, so it accentuates the natural differences between the 2 positions. Clean or overdriven, these pickups "feel" good to play. I guess they are the kind of set that make you feel like you are a better player. They also sound great when using all the various nuances provided by using both volume and tone controls. For those who are interested im using 500k bourns pots all round and mojo paper/oil caps.

The 335 the PG's live in has had gibson 57's (stock), SD 59's and 59's with a2 magnets. I think the PG set is the best set yet. I am the kind of player who is always using the volume and tone knobs to get different sounds because i usually use single channel amps with either a well chosen fuzz or overdrive pedal - or nothing if the amp has its own dirt.
I have both pickups set almost flush with the mounts and this gives a cool spongy feel with plenty of natural string sustain.

Compared to Gibson 57s...Bridge: more meat in the lows, sweeter highs and a slightly higher and less prominent spike in the upper mids. The 57s always sounded both honky and muddy at the same time. The PG has more lows, a lot more detail and the resonant peak (or whatever it is) seems to be in just the right place. More detail and nuance by the bucketload. More grunt too.
Neck: no comparison. BIg sounding but balanced. Sweet and sustaining.The 57's sound constipated by comparison.

Compared to SD 59's: Both pickups: 59s have more low end, less mids and more treble, but to my ears the treble is too thin, and the mids too hollow. The pg's have less high end, but what is there is much more forgiving and useable, so i can dig in and get cool sounds. The mids push through in a much more muscular and warm manner. The lows are plenty fat enough- and i'm an addict for low end.

Compared to 59 A2's: The Pg's have somehow got more meat as well as more definition. I don't know how exactly. I generally like a warm, spongy pickup tone and ive enjoyed the 59 A2's, but the PG seems to have more life in it - a more clear harmonic presence, but plenty of sponge and forgiving feel. I find i can use the tone control at 10, but it still sounds great rolled back, whereas the 59s become too dark rolled back. The PG's even when dialed quite low seem to have the ability to grind and really get some drive - perhaps it is the harmonics coming through. Very forgiving, yet agressive sounding at the same time.

So...to sum it up: I can see why people like them. They are more or less exactly the sound and feel i've been looking for. I've jumped the fence and the grass is most definitely greener over here.
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Cool review, thanks. I've never tried them in a semi, sounds like they could be a good match. I've been kinda partial to the Seths and Phat Cats in 335 types, but I can imagine the PGb being a growly bunch of fun in that setup.
 
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So...to sum it up: I can see why people like them. They are more or less exactly the sound and feel i've been looking for. I've jumped the fence and the grass is most definitely greener over here.

They're my favorite regular production Duncans and I've been suggesting them for years now. Do you use them with nickel covers? I've come to prefer the PG's with covers but they're fine without too.
 
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PGs are really nice. The first time I tried them (in a Paul), the first thing I thought was, "These belong in a thinline semi-hollow." Listen to Mick Taylor's ES-345 neck pickup solo near the end of "Can't You Hear Me Knockin'," and you'll hear what I'm talking about. (Also, throughout the song, in the left channel, bridge pickup in the verses, neck pickup for the rest of the song; listen on headphones.) No, those weren't PGs, but that is what PGs do with ease, especially through a clean amp on the verge of breakup.

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This thread is very relevant to my interests. I'm currently looking for a new set of pickups to put in a Heritage 535, and the Pearly Gates are one of the possibilities I'm considering heavily. They were very recommended for semi-hollow bodied guitars even when I had an Epiphone sheraton close to 10 years ago. Currently it has the stock Schaller Golden 50s, but the neck pickup has developed hum, and I think the years of moisture the guitar endured caused corrosion inside the pickup itself.

Anyway, I've got a Hamer Newport with '59 and Custom 5 in it, which I really like, but I'd like something with more bite in the neck, and a little less meaty in the bridge, and the Pearly Gates seem like they might be what I'm looking for. I'd definitely be going for nickel covers on these. They'd be going into the guitar on the left (guitar on right has '59 set)

I should mention I'm on the fence about getting the P-rails instead with some triple shot rings, but again, ON THE FENCE. Argh.

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Count me in as another satisfied "PG in a 335" user. Oddly enough, I tried the exact same combo's as the OP, in an identical looking guitar, and settled on the PG's too.

OP - you are my Aussie Pickup Swapping Doppleganger. Cheers!
 
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This thread is very relevant to my interests. I'm currently looking for a new set of pickups to put in a Heritage 535, and the Pearly Gates are one of the possibilities I'm considering heavily. They were very recommended for semi-hollow bodied guitars even when I had an Epiphone sheraton close to 10 years ago. Currently it has the stock Schaller Golden 50s, but the neck pickup has developed hum, and I think the years of moisture the guitar endured caused corrosion inside the pickup itself.

Anyway, I've got a Hamer Newport with '59 and Custom 5 in it, which I really like, but I'd like something with more bite in the neck, and a little less meaty in the bridge, and the Pearly Gates seem like they might be what I'm looking for. I'd definitely be going for nickel covers on these. They'd be going into the guitar on the left (guitar on right has '59 set)

I should mention I'm on the fence about getting the P-rails instead with some triple shot rings, but again, ON THE FENCE. Argh.

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As much as I love Pearly Gates, P-Rails in Triple Shots is THE killer option.
 
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Pearly Gates - yep yep.

Definitely a cool choice. Nice review.
 
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I have to say that I like A2P's much better than PG's. The neck has more bite and cut, not as mellow and smooth as a PGN, and the bridge is warmer and fuller (PGB's tend to be bright and a little thin). To me, better tones all the way around with A2P's. If you haven't tried both, you should before going with PG's.
 
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yeh its a gibson. I don't know if its AAA or not cos i dont know how woods are given their label. I think the model spec on the axe was 335 dot reissue figured top.
And yeh its "noyce" (like choice) and "maight"(like straight)! Not bad...your accent is coming along nicely!
 
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I don't care for the PG selection as much as a 59B UOA5/Jazz N or a set of Seths...The Seths are perfect...I find the PG to be either a bit too toppy and I don't care for the "sizzly" stuff..
 
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The Seths are perfect...I find the PG to be either a bit too toppy and I don't care for the "sizzly" stuff..

Love the Seths. Love the PG's too, especially with nickel covers like the Seths have.

That "sizzle" is mitigated, IMO, by using the nickel covers (and alnico 2 magnet) that Seth Lover specified.

I like this guy's tone with a nickel covered PG. I don't hear that "sizzle" either.

If players like that aggressive "sizzle" then stick with uncovered humbuckers like all the rock players do.

If you're more of a jazz/blues player, like say Larry Carlton or BB King, leave the covers on.

There's not a huge difference, but there is a difference. Otherwise, Eric Clapton and Jeff Beck wouldn't have removed the covers from their Gibson paf's back in the 60's and started the "no covers" thing.


 
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Love the Seths. Love the PG's too, especially with nickel covers like the Seths have. That "sizzle" is mitigated, IMO, by nickel covers. I like this guy's tone with a nickel covered PG. I don't hear that "sizzle" either.

If players like that aggressive "sizzle" then stick with uncovered humbuckers like all the rock players do.

If you're more of a jazz/blues player, like say Larry Carlton or BB King, leave the covers on.

There's not a huge difference, but there is a difference. Otherwise, Eric Clapton and Jeff Beck wouldn't have removed the covers from their Gibson paf's back in the 60's.



I have the covers on my 335's pickups...Just not a fan of the PGs I guess?
 
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I'm more of a 59 guy. But your 335 is still one of my favorites on the forum. ;)

I'm easy to please...sometimes. :) I'm a fan of the '59 too!

My ES-335 has the Tom Holmes pickups that were in it when I bought it. And the Duncans I think sound most like the Tom Holmes humbuckers are nickel covered PG's.

I believe Jeremy may have said the same thing, although I don't remember if he mentioned nickel covers. Probably not.
 
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I'm easy to please...sometimes. :) I'm a fan of the '59 too!

My ES-335 has the Tom Holmes pickups that were in it when I bought it. And the Duncans I think sound most like the Tom Holmes humbuckers are nickel covered PG's.

I believe Jeremy may have said the same thing, although I don't remember if he mentioned nickel covers. Probably not.

I was talking about Cam's 335. :) Your 335 was midnight wine or a darker red yeah? Pics? :cool:
 
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