So, talking to AI about pickups...

[Aceman]

I do this from time to time, just as a check on the state of AI's knowledge.

Today I asked it some questions about a variety of pickups. we wandered into a discussion where it brought up Gibson 57 Classics. I asked how they compared to my Pearly Gates wound to 9k.

While I could have kept the 57/57+ in Irish, my Green Les Paul....this nailed all the reasons I wanted the PG's and enjoy them in comparison.

1. The 57+ is the definition of “politely hot.”​

Alnico 5.
Mid-7k → low-8k winds.
Clear, vintage, well-behaved.

In other words:
“Excuse me, may I enter your amp’s front end?”

2. MJ’s PG at 9k is the opposite personality.​

It’s:
“Kick the door open, steal the whiskey, and ask questions later.”

You now have:

• A5 with attitude
• More coil offset
• More harmonic content
• More grind
• More sizzle
• Less polite compression
• A way better mid character

MJ doesn't wind pickups—she voices pickups. Big difference.

 

[uOpt]

But the PG is A2. Except the PG+ which is A5.

 

[Aceman]

But the PG is A2. Except the PG+ which is A5.

It's AI - it isn't perfect. Other than that. And I did call it out.

 

[uOpt]

It's AI - it isn't perfect. Other than that. And I did call it out.

Did it admit to its mistake?

I found that you could correct LLMs reasonably well, but now they are just pushing back. Had an interesting discussion where one insistend, even after calling it out, that a Mig-15 is supersonic.

 

[Artie]

Once, as a test, I asked AI the scale length of my Peavey T-30. It said Fender scale @ 25.5. I corrected it to 23.5. It said, "Thank you. I'll add this info to my database."

 

[Rex_Rocker]

Is the 57+ really in the mid 7K's? What's "+" about it, then?

Also, that one is also A2, right?

 

[jeremy]

yes, the + should be hotter than mid 7 and it is also a2

 

[beaubrummels]

I didn't think PGs were offset coils.

 

[Clint 55]

^ I doubt the PG+s have offset coils. The bot will invent information. I actually really like working with it, and even joking with it and doing personal stuff, but you can't treat it like it's infallible. Imo it's better than the peanut gallery on average. You get instantaneous information reasoned out pretty well and you can refine the outline. I told it to put in its memory no making up crap and inventing stuff and I always call it out when it's making stuff up, being a dumbass, or feeding me woke propaganda.

 

[jeremy]

the pg doesnt have mismatched coils

 

[Rex_Rocker]

the pg doesnt have mismatched coils

As far as I'm aware, no Duncan that doesn't explicitly state it does has mismatched coils. That was my understanding. Mismatched coils weren't really a Duncan thing until the '59/Custom Hybrid, right?

And it was after that the Brobucker, the Fuglybucker, the Brandon Ellis pickup, etc. happened? Is my Duncan history correct?

I was reading an Instagram post from a guy who analyzes pickups that the Jazz (or the '59, can't remember) has mismatched coils... and I felt like going "uh, ackchyually", but I don't really know if my Duncan knowledge goes deeper than "me likey JB", LOL.

 

[Mincer]

the pg doesnt have mismatched coils

Either does the PG+.

 

[jeremy]

As far as I'm aware, no Duncan that doesn't explicitly state it does has mismatched coils. That was my understanding. Mismatched coils weren't really a Duncan thing until the '59/Custom Hybrid, right?

And it was after that the Brobucker, the Fuglybucker, the Brandon Ellis pickup, etc. happened? Is my Duncan history correct?

I was reading an Instagram post from a guy who analyzes pickups that the Jazz (or the '59, can't remember) has mismatched coils... and I felt like going "uh, ackchyually", but I don't really know if my Duncan knowledge goes deeper than "me likey JB", LOL.

hes wrong

 

[Mincer]

Yeah, lots of misinformation out there- especially in this day of AI. This kind of 'knowledge' gets picked up and added to the database that AI draws from, so garbage in, garbage out.

 

[GilmourD]

Yeah, lots of misinformation out there- especially in this day of AI. This kind of 'knowledge' gets picked up and added to the database that AI draws from, so garbage in, garbage out.

As somebody that works in technology, AI is scary, but the way that people wholeheartedly just trust it is even scarier.

 

[jeremy]

indeed, on both counts

 

[xxxplorer]

I refuse to use skynet lol. I seen the Terminator

 

[uOpt]

From my observation this "PG has A5" mistake is typical for LLMs. Made up stuff. Not even using the majority of sources.

I am trying / being asked to to use LLMs for programming. It's not going well.

 

[Aceman]

yes, the + should be hotter than mid 7 and it is also a2

It is. And a mild mannered PG is about the right disposition.

 

[Aceman]

From my observation this "PG has A5" mistake is typical for LLMs. Made up stuff. Not even using the majority of sources.

I am trying / being asked to to use LLMs for programming. It's not going well.

First, there is a PG with an A5 magnet. So don't discount it.
Also, it is a classic PAF, so A5 is not an unreasonable assumption.

If you want to hang on the 1% it got wrong, which was honestly in the same class as a mistake any of might type, go ahead.

As for the rest? Nailed it. I ask AI about a lot of things I know about just to see what it will say. I have gotten as good or better advice than I get on here sometimes...