Pearly Gates in Les Paul is my choice

Re: Pearly Gates in Les Paul is my choice

I always try A2 bridge PU's with 500K's first, to see what I have to work with. Good lord PGB's are bright! Just not the sound I want with 500K's. Maybe it was the wood of the individual instruments, but my A2P LP sounds much better than my PG LP. I get more treble from my A2PN than my PGN; the neck is where I'm a treble junkie. I've recently been replacing 500K's with one or two 1-meg pots on some of my LP necks to get more high end. On the bridge, I need a sharp edge, and especially love pick noise, but want a fist inside the glove; midrange and low-end power. I don't want my solos to flit around up high like a butterfly, I want them to hit people in the gut. I guess I'm going in the opposite direction than the crowd. I'm playing British blues style, which precious few other local players here ever do. There are those that suspect that either I know nothing about guitar tone or that I have some sort of hearing deficiency, but it's not just me. I almost always get people telling me how much they like my tones, band and audience, so the tones are nice at home and on stage. That's what tells me I'm not crazy. Something's working.

To me, PAF's should sound great in an LP. That's the testing ground. Those fat LP bodies and short necks fill in the mids and give sustain. And that's what my heroes played. I'm not going to get that with a Strat. When I play out, I usually take an LP or two, and with them having various combinations of Duncan, Gibson, Fralin, Lollar, DMz, and Smits PAF's, I just I don't seem to take the one with PG's. In spite of everything some believe and hold dear, people do like my tones. It defies all reason and logic! And yes, maybe the musicians go for different tones in their own playing, but they shake my hand and want to know I get my sound. I've been told that they like the contrast of me alongside a Strat player. That both guitars are easier to hear. You know too, some of these guys are putting PGN's in brighter woods; maybe they'd think differently about them if they were in an LP. That's where I hear them straying a bit too far towards the warm and mellow side.

Sir, whoever you are, this is a weak attempt at pretending to be Blueman! :lmao:

And Billy Gibbons seems to take PG's out usually when he plays out. Hmmm :scratchch
 
Re: Pearly Gates in Les Paul is my choice

Sir, whoever you are, this is a weak attempt at pretending to be Blueman! :lmao:

And Billy Gibbons seems to take PG's out usually when he plays out. Hmmm :scratchch

And the reverend is using what strings, 8's or 7's? That would give him a brighter neck tone. The big, burly 9's I use don't have as much treble.
 
Re: Pearly Gates in Les Paul is my choice

the revs tone has almost nothing to do with what guitar or pup he plays these days. watch his rig rundown if you dont know what i mean.

using those skinny strings would also give him a brighter bridge tone if you wanna look at it like that
 
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I concur. As much as I like the pg, using billy as reference point for tone is futile.
 
Re: Pearly Gates in Les Paul is my choice

Billy is one weird dude.

Naw, really?

Me, I'd had my doubts ever since seeing the hair, the cars, and the ho's, but that can all be explained away... playing strings thinner than a 9, and by some rumours actually even 7s, though? That's just grossly unmanly... What's wrong with him, palsy or smthn? Or just delirium tremens making concentrating precise finger pressure all difficult???

PS concerning pearlies, don't knock pearlies in a strat (or a pawnshop series mutant whatever the heck that thing was, either). And yeah, Pearly Gates pretty much even gets through to those guys who think the neck pickup's just there for the visual symmetry only, or better yet for volume=0 "killswitch" toggling.
 
Pearly Gates in Les Paul is my choice

I've tried a metric sh*t ton of PAF style pickups from different builders. The Pearly Gates bridge is one of my all time favorites. In my Les Paul I prefer the 59n to the PGn, but that's just a preference thing.
 
Re: Pearly Gates in Les Paul is my choice

I'm glad to see so much diversity in what everyone feels is the "best" pup in an LP. It just goes to show that we as forumites can only give suggestions to others based upon our own preferences, hearing, experiences, instruments, etc. And if we can always keep that in mind there will be greater harmony and respect for each other.

Noone can ever say "this is the best", they can only make recommendations based on..."this is what sounds best TO ME with my equipment, and I respect your opinion as such".

As for me?

I love the Pearly in the neck of an LP, but I like the Demon better (more even EQ, great clarity and articulation, yet smooth), and I'm REALLY falling in love with the Fuglybucker in the neck...such great fidelity, EQ range, smoothness, clear precise bass, sparkley highs but never grating or ice-picky. Whenever I'm playing on that pup a smile comes to my face and I think (with a little giggle out loud)..."Ooooohhh mmmaaaaann!).

MJ did an amazing job with that one. Thanks a bunch to SD and MJ for helping us to create such a masterpiece. But please SD, don't ever make it a production model...I selfishly want to keep that uniqueness of tone to myself.

ps...I even love the way it looks.
 
Re: Pearly Gates in Les Paul is my choice

I'm glad to see so much diversity in what everyone feels is the "best" pup in an LP. It just goes to show that we as forumites can only give suggestions to others based upon our own preferences, hearing, experiences, instruments, etc. And if we can always keep that in mind there will be greater harmony and respect for each other.

No one can ever say "this is the best", they can only make recommendations based on..."this is what sounds best TO ME with my equipment, and I respect your opinion as such".

In a perfect world, Doc.
 
Re: Pearly Gates in Les Paul is my choice

Continuing the thread a little, my experience with the PGn has been that it matches the description/design exactly! I mean so much so that it's scary how accurate the description is. I can use it for solos where I normally would never consider a neck humbucker with any other model I've tried. It's all about that dash of hot sauce. Yum! Having said that, I'm mildly dissatisfied because it doesn't match too well with that A2 SH-16 hybrid in the bridge. Both are unpotted FWIW. The hybrid is just so expressive that it makes other pickups sound kind of bland. It's cool to have both on the same guitar but lately I want a better match, but now I'm derailing the topic so I'll stop. PGn = warm round PAF with bite that translates to articulation. Perhaps a touch less lively than a Seth neck? (and remember my PGn is unotted so it's an even closer reference)
 
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