Pearly Gates or Alnico II pro's in a PRS SE Custome 24

[Lewguitar]

Re: Pearly Gates or Alnico II pro's in a PRS SE Custome 24

No PU works out for every guitarist. It isn't necessarily a shortcoming in the guitarist's playing style or skill level, or his hearing. There's a lot of great PAF players who don't use PG's. It's nice that you've found what you want in PG's Lew, but for some of us there's other PAF's we prefer instead. Billy Gibbons isn't really the world's top reference for skill or tone, so what he does or doesn't do makes little difference to the vast majority of players. Besides he's known for having a highly processed sound, at least on stage.

Maybe. But one thing Billy has is the TOUCH that works with the PG.

As does Warren Haynes. As does Joe Satriani. As does Paul Rose. As does Jeremy, I'll bet. And as do I.

I'll bet we all can squeeze those notes out like toothpaste from a tube when we want to. And we don't need a bucket load of distortion to do it.

But you have to work at it. Maybe it comes naturally...I don't know. But I liked it, got that sound in my head and then had to work hard to develop the ability to pull it off.

Took years. Couldn't really do it until I'd been playing about 5 or 6 years. Been playing about 50 years now.

Some of us play that way and some of us don't.

I have a feeling that for those who don't, the qualities that I love about the PGb are totally unappreciated because they don't apply.

But for me, those qualities are a treasure trove.

Paul Rose sure has that touch.

 

[marcello252]

Re: Pearly Gates or Alnico II pro's in a PRS SE Custome 24

Clapton was a real tone shaper too...back in the day. Listen to how he uses both hands to shape his tone and sustain.

I've always loved this video, espcially where he demostrate the woman tone and the final licks

 

[Aceman]

Re: Pearly Gates or Alnico II pro's in a PRS SE Custome 24

Maybe. But one thing Billy has is the TOUCH that works with the PG.

As does Warren Haynes. As does Joe Satriani. As does Paul Rose. As does Jeremy, I'll bet. And as do I.
Paul Rose sure has that touch.

Don't forget me!!! That quote below from infer is regarding my PG set!!!! My touch sucks - but the pickups sound fantastic.

 

[Gunslinger_505]

Re: Pearly Gates or Alnico II pro's in a PRS SE Custome 24

Based on what I'm hearing, the A2P is what you want. An A2P set wouldn't be bad. But you might split the difference….
Go with an A2P bridge and a PG neck. That's a great balanced tone between the two positions, but you will certainly find a range with the split options in each.

Talk to me about an A2P bridge and a PG neck? From the tone profiles it looks as if the PG necks output is equivalent to the A2P bridge. Is this something to be concerned about? This is a single volume guitar.

Also, what do you make of the sound samples and videos associated with each pickup? When I listen to the them I kind of like the p-rails, but I'm not convinced...

 

[Lewguitar]

Re: Pearly Gates or Alnico II pro's in a PRS SE Custome 24

Talk to me about an A2P bridge and a PG neck? From the tone profiles it looks as if the PG necks output is equivalent to the A2P bridge. Is this something to be concerned about? This is a single volume guitar.

I wouldn't mix them.

I'd go with a set of one or the other.

I'm very fond of Alnico 2 Pros but the I feel that the PG's respond to the way I pick better. I can change the angle of my pick or use the side to squeeze out notes and get pinch harmonics easily.

There's a nice chimey jangle to the A2P though. It's a cleaner sound in a way. Tighter. More space in the sound. More of what I think of as being an acoustic quality, although I can strum chords and get a great sound from either.

Still, for straight rhythm I could see a guy or gal preferring the A2P.

For soloing and for overdriven sounds I prefer the PG.

Although the A2P gets a great sound for soloing and the PG gets a great sound for chords and accompaniment.

They're two great pickup sets.

Couldn't really go wrong with either and it just comes down to what you're looking for.

If I were going to play Beatle songs or Bowie stuff I'd choose the A2P.

If I were going to play British Blues or Gary Moore or attempt some Derek Trucks slide stuff I'd go for the PG's.

 

[Mincer]

Re: Pearly Gates or Alnico II pro's in a PRS SE Custome 24

An SG also has the neck pickup in the 'wrong' place. It's moved about 3/4" closer to the bridge pickup than it would be on a Les Paul. Kind of a plus if you're a slide player like Duane or Derek. Some slide players like the middle pickup on a Strat better than the bridge or neck pickup - for a similar reason I would guess.

Yeah, I don't dig the neck position on an SG either. Some people make it work fine for them, but I just keep expecting it to sound bigger and smoother than it actually does.

 

[blueman335]

Re: Pearly Gates or Alnico II pro's in a PRS SE Custome 24

I wouldn't mix them. I'd go with a set of one or the other.

A lot of people mix and match PAF's. Or pair PAF's with higher output PU's. All a matter of what you're wanting from a neck and a bridge PU. A set is only a manufacturers suggestion, nothing cast in stone. Doubles the sale, because most players don't know enough about picking out two PU's so they go with a set.

 

[Gunslinger_505]

Re: Pearly Gates or Alnico II pro's in a PRS SE Custome 24

Doubles the sale, because most players don't know enough about picking out two PU's so they go with a set.

That would me! I was always a person who thought you just had to learn to get on with each guitar. There a few guitars I wish I kept....

 

[Mincer]

Re: Pearly Gates or Alnico II pro's in a PRS SE Custome 24

Nah, make the guitar conform to you, not the other way around.

 

[Gunslinger_505]

Re: Pearly Gates or Alnico II pro's in a PRS SE Custome 24

Nah, make the guitar conform to you, not the other way around.

For sure! I had a MIJ 62 reissue strat that had an active EMGs in it. I should have changed those out and kept the guitar.

 

[blueman335]

Re: Pearly Gates or Alnico II pro's in a PRS SE Custome 24

Nah, make the guitar conform to you, not the other way around.

Yes, that's why we're here. To learn the things that change how our guitars sound and feel, so we can take control of our tone.

 

[Luke Duke]

Re: Pearly Gates or Alnico II pro's in a PRS SE Custome 24

In the neck slot I've tried:

Jazz, A2P, 59, 59/A2 neck pups, and Pearly Gates(b)

PG(b) is by far the thickest but it still leaves a lot to be desired. The Vintage bass was probably the best p'up. FYI the PRS pups have brass base plates like a Dimarzio and that changes the tone.