Pedal modding guys...wanna help me rehouse a behringer?

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So I recently bought a behringer Uv300, the boss VB-2 clone.

Had a few people recommend it as a "really close" alternative to the original (these are people that own originals). I've never owned an actual vb-2, just tried a lot of clones, and of all I've tried, as much as I hate to admit it....the behringer sounds the best. I dunno if it's really that close to the original boss pedal, but it sounds great regardless.
So that being that, this behringer is something I would like to actually put on my gigging board....but I do not trust the plastic enclosure. So I'd like to Rehouse it
preferably in an empty boss enclosure I have (not gonna try and pass of off as anything other than a rehoused behringer. I plan on painting the enclosure grey and labeling it "generic vibrato" or possibly "I'm poor...VIBE"). Mostly cause almost everything thats not dirt on my board is boss, and the behringer is about the same size so it'd probably fit easily and not take up to much space.
BUT.....I do not know how to go about doing that, and I'm pretty positive I'd mess it up if I tried (though for $25 I could buy another haha). So, I'm wondering if any of you who are good at this sort of thing would wanna help me out? Obviously not for free or anything. Totally willing to pay ya. If you're well versed on mods and could make the buffer more transparent, even better.

Or really even some advice on how to go about such a thing myself?

Also, if anyone is willing to help me out with this, but for whatever reason doesn't like the idea of me wanting to rehouse that in a boss enclosure.....I don't really care if Ita rehoused in something else...i just wouldn't want something that take up more space than that, plus ya know...I'm cheap and I have the boss enclosure already. Haha.

Anyone? Advice? Am I just being paranoid about the plastic enclosure?
 
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I wouldn't bother unless there was damage in the plastic (though sometime peace of mind is worth it). If you want some assistance, let me know, I can rehouse. As far as the buffer mod, your best bet would be true bypass, except there may be some challenges to get over. It's likely ALL surface mount tiny electronics. VERY difficult to mod. You already have my address now.
 
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trevorus said:
I wouldn't bother unless there was damage in the plastic (though sometime peace of mind is worth it). If you want some assistance, let me know, I can rehouse. As far as the buffer mod, your best bet would be true bypass, except there may be some challenges to get over. It's likely ALL surface mount tiny electronics. VERY difficult to mod. You already have my address now.
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Yeah wanting to rehouse is mostly about peace of mind. I've watched some videos, and read plenty of stuff with people saying they're alot sturdier than they feel, and all that. But my main concern is making sure it's something I can put on my gigging board, without ever feeling like I even need to worry about reliability. Ya know?
I had actually thought about the true bypass thing, only problem is I'm not sure how it'd be possible to true bypass it, and still be able to use the unlatch feature? Seems like it'd only be possible with a Momentary switch. But I don't know, I know just enough about whats involved in a pedal circuit, to know I probably shouldn't go messing around inside there, haha. I'm far too twitchy for such delicate work.
The buffer really isn't that bad, and really as long as it wasn't the first buffered pedal in the chain it most likely wouldn't even make a difference...So the "improving the buffer" thing isn't that huge of a concern.

What would ya charge me to rehouse it? Do you think it'd be possible to put it in an empty boss enclosure, or would I be better off just putting it in a similarly sized MXR style box?
 
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I know Walrus Audio does a lot of reboxing Behringers. They change out pots and will true-bypass as well, or just toss it in a new body.

Are you going to run it externally powered? not having to have room for a battery will significantly cut down on needed space. It's going to be SM, so chances are the board is dainty. The pots are gonna be board mounted, so if you get someone to repot, take out the buffer and leave the battery room out you could probabloy get it in a 1590a.

uuuuh, I just looked up the pedal and there's all sorts of...wait a sec...

yow, never mind. Here's someone on freestompboxes who rehoused. The board is huge. You'll be needing to put it in a 1590b or possibly bigger.
http://www.freestompboxes.org/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=19067
 
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jon the art guy said:
I know Walrus Audio does a lot of reboxing Behringers. They change out pots and will true-bypass as well, or just toss it in a new body.

Are you going to run it externally powered? not having to have room for a battery will significantly cut down on needed space. It's going to be SM, so chances are the board is dainty. The pots are gonna be board mounted, so if you get someone to repot, take out the buffer and leave the battery room out you could probabloy get it in a 1590a.

uuuuh, I just looked up the pedal and there's all sorts of...wait a sec...

yow, never mind. Here's someone on freestompboxes who rehoused. The board is huge. You'll be needing to put it in a 1590b or possibly bigger.
http://www.freestompboxes.org/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=19067
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Yeah, I read that thread there earlier, haha...Seems like they just decided to fill the whole box up with a PCB just cause. Weird.

And yeah, I would be running it off a power supply, haven't used batteries in anything for a long time. So wouldn't need to worry about having room for a battery.
 
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I want to do this same thing with a bunch of their pedals, and my old DOD fx56 (along with a couple mods).
 
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That PCB has got all the buffer in it too, all spread out most likely. I don't know if there's any way to economize space on it. Honestly I'd just leave it alone. The only questionable thing I've found with the pedals I have are I'm afraid the switch will go out and I'd like a bar to protect the lame pots. Unless you're 300lb, wearing hobnail boots and like to stomp down with the vengeance of Ra or something, I can't see how the HOUSING will go out.

In my humble opinion, I'd tear the stupid hinged switch top off and put a real switch in the 9v cavity, wire it up and fill that sum-beech with epoxy. Drill a couple holes just under the pots and mount a metal bar or something to make sure you don't kick the pots. I mean, they're 25 bucks. No need to treat them like collectibles.
 
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My main deal would be giddy bones + housing = cheap RV3!!!!!!

I am highly interested in this project.
 
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Ok, I'll do it, and I can document it so we can all see what is happening in there. :)

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I'd agree with others who've said the switch is more likely to be a problem than the enclosure itself. A nice metal enclosure didn't stop the POS switch in my Sparkle Drive from going out.
 
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Little Pigbacon said:
I'd agree with others who've said the switch is more likely to be a problem than the enclosure itself. A nice metal enclosure didn't stop the POS switch in my Sparkle Drive from going out.
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Momentary switches are easy.

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trevorus said:
Momentary switches are easy.

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I just get a kick out of people gushing over the presumed reliability of a pedal based on the enclosure. "Reliability: 10 Lulz asdf;ljikasdlkj its maed out of medal!"
 
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Little Pigbacon said:
I just get a kick out of people gushing over the presumed reliability of a pedal based on the enclosure. "Reliability: 10 Lulz asdf;ljikasdlkj its maed out of medal!"
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Well, Trevorus is doing a bit more than simply stuffing the guts into a different Box for me, haha...It's not purely about not trusting the Plastic box, and thinking a metal box will magically fix everything. The pots and jacks are all mounted on the PCB, and therefore much more prone to failure (ever accidentally stomp on the knobs instead of the switch? I do fairly often)... So in addition to the different enclosure he said he's gonna replace the pots and jacks with actual pots/jacks mounted directly to the metal box, etc... This is more about making me trust that the pedal is structurally sound enough for me to step all over it, and still work reliably, without me ever having to worry if something wacky is gonna go down in the middle of a gig. Ya know? The less I have to worry about on stage, the more I can focus on making loud noises.

So yeah, no "gushing" over the presumed invincibility of a metal box v. plastic... I mean, it's a metal box, not magic, haha.
 
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You don't need to defend or explain yourself bro. You've got a pedal you like and it's being made more reliable for you if other people don't get why your fired up then oh well. Besides if treverus documents the switchover for the fourm you will have brought forth something I think a lot of people will benefit from. Like you said metal ain't magic but I'd take it any day over plastic for something you are going to according to the name stomp on, it would seem to be a better choice in materials. Sure it can't stop other things from breaking but with the other mods our moving in the right direction. In the age of the Internet there's always someone waiting to pee on your parade.
 
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tonechaser said:
You don't need to defend or explain yourself bro. You've got a pedal you like and it's being made more reliable for you if other people don't get why your fired up then oh well. Besides if treverus documents the switchover for the fourm you will have brought forth something I think a lot of people will benefit from. Like you said metal ain't magic but I'd take it any day over plastic for something you are going to according to the name stomp on, it would seem to be a better choice in materials. Sure it can't stop other things from breaking but with the other mods our moving in the right direction. In the age of the Internet there's always someone waiting to pee on your parade.
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Eh, I like explaining myself. Haha. I didn't feel like I was defending, I'm kool with someone disagreeing with my view on something, glad to hear their reasoning, and happy to give mine in response. I figure if people gotta disagree, at the very least we should all know exactly why we view things the way we do. Ya know? Better to fully understand differing views. I got my reasons for wanting to do this, and I can totally see why someone would think It's goofy haha. So it's kool.

And yeah, I agree that Trevorus documenting the whole process will be beneficial for anyone else curious about the process. I'd searched before and there aren't any good tutorials, or even any decent "here's how exactly how I did this" write up's on any of the forums I go to (none I've found at least)....so if nothing else, it will help anyone else looking to do something similar know what they're getting into, before ripping something apart.
 
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