Pedal switcher with amp control?

[BluesGuyJ2]

Re: Pedal switcher with amp control?

There are many, many products on the market that do this today.

Gig Rig G2
One Control OC10
Boss ES8
Mooen GEC9

There are some pedal switching units that also have MIDI out, but not amp control features. You could get something like the RJM Mini Amp Gizmo and use the MIDI out of a pedal switcher to then control the channels/boosts of your amp.

What I shared only scratches the surface of what is out there, I really encourage you to do some serious research

 

[2ndhandband]

Re: Pedal switcher with amp control?

There are many, many products on the market that do this today.

Gig Rig G2
One Control OC10
Boss ES8
Mooen GEC9

There are some pedal switching units that also have MIDI out, but not amp control features. You could get something like the RJM Mini Amp Gizmo and use the MIDI out of a pedal switcher to then control the channels/boosts of your amp.

What I shared only scratches the surface of what is out there, I really encourage you to do some serious research

True story, but you wanna make sure you get something that is roadworthy and gives you some room for growth. And for the love of god get something you can put in a rack. Having lots of expensive gear down front of stage where someone is going to spill beer on it is beyond nuts.

 

[BluesGuyJ2]

Re: Pedal switcher with amp control?

I have an OC10 waiting to be used... I've thought about a simple setup: RJM mini amp gizmo, Nemesis delay and some sort of multi modulation process in the loop, tucked behind the amp with a midi controller out in front of stage.

 

[2ndhandband]

Re: Pedal switcher with amp control?

I have an OC10 waiting to be used... I've thought about a simple setup: RJM mini amp gizmo, Nemesis delay and some sort of multi modulation process in the loop, tucked behind the amp with a midi controller out in front of stage.

That's the way to do it... the only think I have front of stage is my midi controller. I even use the midi-controlled wah in my MPX. But I'd go one step further: if it can go in a rack, put it in a rack.

 

[BluesGuyJ2]

Re: Pedal switcher with amp control?

I am blind and can only carry so much gear. I try to limit everything to one big pedal bag over my shoulder, guitar over the other shoulder, combo in one hand, and cane in the other. Rack oriented stuff would be cool, but just not doable for me. Also, Voodoo has come out with the ding bat pedal boards, which have their PX8 built into it and can switch up to 8 pedals in 8 separate loops.... not sure if it has MIDI out to control an amp controller though

 

[mantis]

Re: Pedal switcher with amp control?

I have for a long time used the GT series from Boss on and off.
Reason for this is I love the full control of your rig with the GT series. I started with the GT-8 then 10 then 100. All of them got better with the newer model. But they never ever sounded as good as pedals with my amp.
In between each purchase of a GT board from Boss, I went back to pedals and loved the sound quality but hated the tap dancing to control all of them. I wrote songs that I started out in Clean with Chorus, delay and reverb but then during the song switching to my drive channel but had to turn off the Reverb and chorus but leave the delay on. This task sucks as you can't tap all those pedals and switch amp channels quick enough for how the song goes. So I always went back to a GT board and lost sound quality but gained control.

Now well a few years ago Boss Released the ES-5 and ES-8 as already suggested above. Now you have your GT board without effects and you now can keep your sound quality and use the pedals you would like to use. The ES-5 has 5 loops and the ES-8 has 8 so depending on what your needs are you get the one that works.
You want this level of control you have to pay for it. No it's not cheap but it's the Ultimate rig setup.
Your other option if money is a concern is go with a Boss GT-100. It will do the same thing but with all built in effects, you can just avoid the amp models I think they suck ass. You may like them for what you do but I don't for what I do. In the end many people are very satisfied with the GT series and if money is a concern then this is the next best thing.

 

[jayylmao]

Re: Pedal switcher with amp control?

I have for a long time used the GT series from Boss on and off.
Reason for this is I love the full control of your rig with the GT series. I started with the GT-8 then 10 then 100. All of them got better with the newer model. But they never ever sounded as good as pedals with my amp.
In between each purchase of a GT board from Boss, I went back to pedals and loved the sound quality but hated the tap dancing to control all of them. I wrote songs that I started out in Clean with Chorus, delay and reverb but then during the song switching to my drive channel but had to turn off the Reverb and chorus but leave the delay on. This task sucks as you can't tap all those pedals and switch amp channels quick enough for how the song goes. So I always went back to a GT board and lost sound quality but gained control.

Now well a few years ago Boss Released the ES-5 and ES-8 as already suggested above. Now you have your GT board without effects and you now can keep your sound quality and use the pedals you would like to use. The ES-5 has 5 loops and the ES-8 has 8 so depending on what your needs are you get the one that works.
You want this level of control you have to pay for it. No it's not cheap but it's the Ultimate rig setup.
Your other option if money is a concern is go with a Boss GT-100. It will do the same thing but with all built in effects, you can just avoid the amp models I think they suck ass. You may like them for what you do but I don't for what I do. In the end many people are very satisfied with the GT series and if money is a concern then this is the next best thing.

Yeah I have the GT8. I don't use the pre amps. I run it with the 4CM. I've been considering getting the GT100


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[mantis]

Re: Pedal switcher with amp control?

Yeah I have the GT8. I don't use the pre amps. I run it with the 4CM. I've been considering getting the GT100


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The GT-100 is way better then the GT-8. The GT-10 is better then the GT-8. The GT-8 was pretty good but really hurt your amps natural tone. The Gt-10 got better at this and the GT-100 is by far superior in this regard.
It still changes your amps natural tone slightly and take away a little of the natural tube sound. Makes it slightly a solid version of your amps tone. At times I was fine with it other times I drove me crazy.
I hope you have better luck with yours.


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[jayylmao]

Re: Pedal switcher with amp control?

The GT-100 is way better then the GT-8. The GT-10 is better then the GT-8. The GT-8 was pretty good but really hurt your amps natural tone. The Gt-10 got better at this and the GT-100 is by far superior in this regard.
It still changes your amps natural tone slightly and take away a little of the natural tube sound. Makes it slightly a solid version of your amps tone. At times I was fine with it other times I drove me crazy.
I hope you have better luck with yours.


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I've got it sounding pretty good imo. But there are some features on the 100 that interest me.


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[2ndhandband]

Re: Pedal switcher with amp control?

The GT-100 is way better then the GT-8. The GT-10 is better then the GT-8. The GT-8 was pretty good but really hurt your amps natural tone. The Gt-10 got better at this and the GT-100 is by far superior in this regard.
It still changes your amps natural tone slightly and take away a little of the natural tube sound. Makes it slightly a solid version of your amps tone. At times I was fine with it other times I drove me crazy.
I hope you have better luck with yours.


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There's a simple solution to the tone suck dilemma. When I have enough room onstage, I triamp. Wet/Dry/Wet. Stereo effects, and the center dry is pure raw natural amp tone. that is only being affected in any way by the stuff going into the front end.

Even the B rig is stereo. Wet/Dry. I use one cabinet for that. The A rig is three cabinets.

 

[ThisDyingSoul76]

Re: Pedal switcher with amp control?

Joyo pxl Pro and PXL Live.

The Pro unit has 4 TRS jacks for switching channels and internal effects. The Live unit has 2 TRS and Midi.

Can be had for less than $200 U.S. On eBay. Programable too.

Great option if your on a budget.

 

[BluesGuyJ2]

Re: Pedal switcher with amp control?

Id be skeptical of the Joyo units and sound quality.... all of these switchers use similar, but also differing loop switching technology.

 

[PFDarkside]

Re: Pedal switcher with amp control?

They should all be relays, which removes the everything from the circuit. Of course, if there are buffers we don't know the quality.

 

[ThisDyingSoul76]

Re: Pedal switcher with amp control?

I have the Joyo PXL Pro. No issues at all.

But, definitely do your research and get what has the features that are most important to you. Only things I wish the Joyo had was more loops, more than 4 patches per bank and the ability to change pedal order without having to retire the board. Does everything else I needed.

I think there is a buffered input, but the loops themselves are true bypass.

 

[PFDarkside]

Re: Pedal switcher with amp control?

For the money, the Joyos are a huge value.

 

[NoOnesFang13]

Re: Pedal switcher with amp control?

I have the Joyo PXL Pro. No issues at all.

But, definitely do your research and get what has the features that are most important to you. Only things I wish the Joyo had was more loops, more than 4 patches per bank and the ability to change pedal order without having to retire the board. Does everything else I needed.

I think there is a buffered input, but the loops themselves are true bypass.

I have the same switcher (that I found out about from your post about getting it I believe) and it works great for my purposes, I don't notice a difference in tone from going strait in to the pedal or the input of the switcher, I really wanted a switcher to stop tap dancing but always found most the switchers far beyond my means in price.

 

[ThisDyingSoul76]

Re: Pedal switcher with amp control?

They really are great switchers for the price.

I'd like one with a buffered loop or 2 that preserve dray and reverb trails. Unfortunately that feature is not available on pedal switchers in the Joyo price range. Not sure why. I can't see that whatever difference in his this is achieved us that much more costly than true bypass or standard buffers.

I'm sure if I looked hard enough there must be someone who has done a mod to make it possible.

 

[jayylmao]

Re: Pedal switcher with amp control?

Cool I'll look into that joyo switcher


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[BluesGuyJ2]

Re: Pedal switcher with amp control?

get something like the JHS lil black buffer and throw it in front o fthe input into the Joyo looper.... I use this buffer after my wah when using other amps and putting my board straight through the front, sounds great.