Pedal Tuner. Front or Back?

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In the back row, middle of the chain........Wah-OD-Tuner-Chorus-Phase 90-Flanger.

Mostly because thats where I had free space on my board!

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I'd recommend it as the very first pedal, as you don't want any phase-altering/harmonic-inducing effects going into it, which could give it problems locking onto the fundamental tone.
 
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I'd recommend it as the very first pedal, as you don't want any phase-altering/harmonic-inducing effects going into it, which could give it problems locking onto the fundamental tone.

That's kind of what I was thinking.

Thanks
 
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mine is first in line. i figure it's best to have a clean guitar signal going right into it for it to be as accurate as possible.

-Mike
 
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I've never heard a difference in either spot so mine always goes at the end to double as a mute for my whole rig.
 
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Preamp--compressor--tuner--everything else.

Preamp boosts the signal and the compressor adds sustain to the note. Makes it easy for the tuner to latch on and keep the note going while I tune.

Bill
 
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I think they are best completely OUT of the chain. Companies like Radial have switchers with tuner out jacks.

I have yet to find a tuner pedal that doesnt kill my sound, even ones that are alleged to be 'true bypass' seem to have a greater effect than other units.
 
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Mines at the front just so it gets the signal strength.
Putting it at the back to act as mute is also a good idea but as I don't worry much about noise in live situations (there is usually enough back ground noise to cover my little amp) and when I'm recording I only use a minimal amount of stuff in the chain and tune off line, as it were.
 
Re: Pedal Tuner. Front or Back?

I think they are best completely OUT of the chain. Companies like Radial have switchers with tuner out jacks.

I have yet to find a tuner pedal that doesnt kill my sound, even ones that are alleged to be 'true bypass' seem to have a greater effect than other units.

That's what I do as well... I actually drive my korg tuner from a Send out from my mixer.
 
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at the end - also as a mute - and also because it is a buffered pedal ... gets me a nice clean level signal to the amp
 
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I have yet to find a tuner pedal that doesnt kill my sound, even ones that are alleged to be 'true bypass' seem to have a greater effect than other units.
Compared to my BOSS pedals and others my Korg Pitchblack has no apparent change on tone.
 
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Preamp--compressor--tuner--everything else.

Preamp boosts the signal and the compressor adds sustain to the note. Makes it easy for the tuner to latch on and keep the note going while I tune.

Bill

If the preamp adds harmonic overtones to the signal, it may actually mess with the tuners ability to find the pitch you're giving it. I've noticed this in a few intelligent harmonizers where its just as important as a tuner for it to recognize pitch.
 
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If the preamp adds harmonic overtones to the signal, it may actually mess with the tuners ability to find the pitch you're giving it. I've noticed this in a few intelligent harmonizers where its just as important as a tuner for it to recognize pitch.

No problems with that. I use a simple (and ancient, LOL!) DOD FX10 Preamp. It's very clean and noise-free, and I only use a moderate boost, always on.

I don't understand putting it at the end, "...as a mute...." My TU-2 mutes the signal at the front of the chain, with no problems. If I want to change guitars, I step on the tuner and pull the cord, no pops.

So what's the advantage of putting it at the end?

Bill
 
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If the preamp adds harmonic overtones to the signal, it may actually mess with the tuners ability to find the pitch you're giving it. I've noticed this in a few intelligent harmonizers where its just as important as a tuner for it to recognize pitch.
I know it almost off topic but thats what I've always wondered with pitch shifters as people seem to put them post preamp but I would of thought anything mimicing something the guitar does should go first in line (which means basically any guitar sound pitch change like harmonizers,whammy, vibrato)
 
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usually pitch shifters have to be front of amp...I've recently discovered this.
I have a Digitech ips-33, the original, no the 33b, and i found when I ran it in my loop, it wouldn't be able to track lower notes (I'm using heavy distortion all the time, within reason, but crunchy). I'm assuming this was because there was alot of harmonic overtones, but when you play higher on the neck, there are not as many, so it could handle it. I was messing around with it the other day and found that if I put it before my amp, it can track all the way down to my low C.

Sorry for the thread hijack!

In conclusion, I would use the tuner first and for most, and if you need a mute later in the chain, they're not exactly hard to make!
 
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I use a separate tuner. Tune up before I play, check during breaks. I don't go too far out of tune during a set, usually.
 
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I usually play with a POD X3L, so the tuner is built in.:dunno:

On my pedal board, the Visual Volume has a "tuner out" jack. The tuner is not in the chain at all. I mute with the VV.
 
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