PG Neck - C5 Bridge in a LP...comments please
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tone4days
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Re: PG Neck - C5 Bridge in a LP...comments please
can anyone help?
i bet this could work just fine ... the A2 in the PG will keep the neck articulate and it will be chimey due to the uneven wind of the bobbins ... the C5 sounds great in the bridge of an LP ... of course, so would a matched PG or PG+ for the bridge ...
couldnt comment on how the combined sound would be .... probably great
anyone else?
cheers
t4d
can anyone help?
i bet this could work just fine ... the A2 in the PG will keep the neck articulate and it will be chimey due to the uneven wind of the bobbins ... the C5 sounds great in the bridge of an LP ... of course, so would a matched PG or PG+ for the bridge ...
couldnt comment on how the combined sound would be .... probably great
anyone else?
cheers
t4d
korovamilkdud
WhoDatologist
Re: PG Neck - C5 Bridge in a LP...comments please
I bet a C5/ PG5 would sound great. I believe www.ampge.com is open for biz again, so if you need to grab an alnico 5 mag, there you go.
C5/PG probably would be okay too.
I bet a C5/ PG5 would sound great. I believe www.ampge.com is open for biz again, so if you need to grab an alnico 5 mag, there you go.
C5/PG probably would be okay too.
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Lewguitar
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Re: PG Neck - C5 Bridge in a LP...comments please
Never tried it but both are great pickups in a Les Paul. Should be nice!
Never tried it but both are great pickups in a Les Paul. Should be nice!
Pat
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Re: PG Neck - C5 Bridge in a LP...comments please
I have this exact set in a LP custom silverburst at the moment. All i can say i love the tones from both pups and they work really well together. The back of my lp is made of brazilian mahogany which is heavy as hell but also tends to sound quite dark with "normal" pups and thats where the qualities of this set comes in. The guitar has plenty of mids of her own so i dont experience the lack of mids of the C5 some have experienced. The pups have opend the darkish sound of this guitar up and with a little turn of the tone knob i can still get it to sound deep and dark when i want it to. Also the C5 doesnt overpower the PG at all . Rolling of the volume on the C5 a bit gives me sweet blues tones and it will bark when i use it flat out while it still has a lot of vintage vibe to it. The PG gives all the the classic rock tones i love! I play everything from classic rock to metal even and this set delivers. For creamy solos i use the pg but when i want searing solos i use the C5.I also have push pots to split and both pups sound surprisingly well that way.
Edit: I havnt had any other Duncans in this guitar but ill try a JB Jazz set in it in a lil while i do think in this guitar this set is going to be a stayer though. Actualy i like the PG so much i am going to put a full PG set in another les paul soon.
I have this exact set in a LP custom silverburst at the moment. All i can say i love the tones from both pups and they work really well together. The back of my lp is made of brazilian mahogany which is heavy as hell but also tends to sound quite dark with "normal" pups and thats where the qualities of this set comes in. The guitar has plenty of mids of her own so i dont experience the lack of mids of the C5 some have experienced. The pups have opend the darkish sound of this guitar up and with a little turn of the tone knob i can still get it to sound deep and dark when i want it to. Also the C5 doesnt overpower the PG at all . Rolling of the volume on the C5 a bit gives me sweet blues tones and it will bark when i use it flat out while it still has a lot of vintage vibe to it. The PG gives all the the classic rock tones i love! I play everything from classic rock to metal even and this set delivers. For creamy solos i use the pg but when i want searing solos i use the C5.I also have push pots to split and both pups sound surprisingly well that way.
Edit: I havnt had any other Duncans in this guitar but ill try a JB Jazz set in it in a lil while i do think in this guitar this set is going to be a stayer though. Actualy i like the PG so much i am going to put a full PG set in another les paul soon.
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Robert S.
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Re: PG Neck - C5 Bridge in a LP...comments please
I had a C-5/PGn combo in my #1 LP from Oct 2001 until just receintly when I neutered the C-5 down to a CC. If I keep a set of pickups in a guitar for 3+ years there has to be something good about it.
Pat offers a very good description.
I had a C-5/PGn combo in my #1 LP from Oct 2001 until just receintly when I neutered the C-5 down to a CC. If I keep a set of pickups in a guitar for 3+ years there has to be something good about it.
Pat offers a very good description.
MattPete
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Re: PG Neck - C5 Bridge in a LP...comments please
I tried that combo in my Warmoth VIP, which has specs similar to a Les Paul. The C5 was way too bright on the high strings, and far too bassy on the low strings. I found it unusable in a maple-capped mahogany body. I changed it into a Custom Custom, and eventually into a Custom 3.
The PGn sounded really good, but it wasn't what I was looking for in that guitar. I wanted a more hollow, woody sound, so i switched it to an A5 magnet.
So, the PGn will sound good, if that's the sound you are looking for. I would stay away from the C5 bridge. A Les Paul has plenty of bass and highs, due to the thick mahogany body and maple cap. The C5 will amplify those qualities all out of proportion.
I tried that combo in my Warmoth VIP, which has specs similar to a Les Paul. The C5 was way too bright on the high strings, and far too bassy on the low strings. I found it unusable in a maple-capped mahogany body. I changed it into a Custom Custom, and eventually into a Custom 3.
The PGn sounded really good, but it wasn't what I was looking for in that guitar. I wanted a more hollow, woody sound, so i switched it to an A5 magnet.
So, the PGn will sound good, if that's the sound you are looking for. I would stay away from the C5 bridge. A Les Paul has plenty of bass and highs, due to the thick mahogany body and maple cap. The C5 will amplify those qualities all out of proportion.
Gearjoneser
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Re: PG Neck - C5 Bridge in a LP...comments please
I already know the C-5 sounds good in Pauls, and usually use it with a 59 neck, but the PG neck is my next pickup. Since I started the Trader Club in the Trader section, I'm getting the opportunity to try out a bunch of pickups without spending more than shipping cost. Next week, I'll be able to audition the EVH, PG set, and APII neck pickup in my LP Prem Plus. Right now, I like C-5/59 and CC/Seth, but after I get to try almost every Duncan in a Paul, I'll have it down to a science. I've already heard JB's and all the Customs, including A3 and A4 modded ones.
I already know the C-5 sounds good in Pauls, and usually use it with a 59 neck, but the PG neck is my next pickup. Since I started the Trader Club in the Trader section, I'm getting the opportunity to try out a bunch of pickups without spending more than shipping cost. Next week, I'll be able to audition the EVH, PG set, and APII neck pickup in my LP Prem Plus. Right now, I like C-5/59 and CC/Seth, but after I get to try almost every Duncan in a Paul, I'll have it down to a science. I've already heard JB's and all the Customs, including A3 and A4 modded ones.
papersoul
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Re: PG Neck - C5 Bridge in a LP...comments please
Gear, you have to try a Rio BBQ! :dance:
Anyway, I agree the C-5 works well in an LP that has good natural mids! I can tell playing my 2003 LP Standard that it has good midrange! The bass in the C-5 is tight so it is not an issue and I expect an LP to have huge bass! The highs are airy but under control with the right height adjustements and amp EQ settings. The mids allow you to rely on the amp and guitar's mids. I use the stock pickups in my LP Standard so you should consider that as well! 500k volume pot will alow more upper mids through so that might help but I like a 300k for the bridge of my particular Standard.
Currently I am back to stock as I took Robert's advice to really spend time with a stock LP before modding! but, I may be going to the C-5 bridge and keeping the BB Pro neck.
If not - it may be the boutique makers.
Gear, you have to try a Rio BBQ! :dance:
Anyway, I agree the C-5 works well in an LP that has good natural mids! I can tell playing my 2003 LP Standard that it has good midrange! The bass in the C-5 is tight so it is not an issue and I expect an LP to have huge bass! The highs are airy but under control with the right height adjustements and amp EQ settings. The mids allow you to rely on the amp and guitar's mids. I use the stock pickups in my LP Standard so you should consider that as well! 500k volume pot will alow more upper mids through so that might help but I like a 300k for the bridge of my particular Standard.
Currently I am back to stock as I took Robert's advice to really spend time with a stock LP before modding! but, I may be going to the C-5 bridge and keeping the BB Pro neck.
If not - it may be the boutique makers.
KLINKDETROIT
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Re: PG Neck - C5 Bridge in a LP...comments please
I like the C5 alot but recently purchased a BBQ and love it although it is too dark. I ordered a 1 meg pot to try and combat the darkness and bring it to the other side of the force. The C5 lows and amount of gain are perfect. The highs are good but thin due to the lack of mids. I have a Mesa and it is not as mid heavy as a Marshall so I went with the BBQ for more mids. Bareknuckle pups kick a-- too. My favorite Duncan pickups are the C5 & Distortion.
I like the C5 alot but recently purchased a BBQ and love it although it is too dark. I ordered a 1 meg pot to try and combat the darkness and bring it to the other side of the force. The C5 lows and amount of gain are perfect. The highs are good but thin due to the lack of mids. I have a Mesa and it is not as mid heavy as a Marshall so I went with the BBQ for more mids. Bareknuckle pups kick a-- too. My favorite Duncan pickups are the C5 & Distortion.
papersoul
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Re: PG Neck - C5 Bridge in a LP...comments please
Do you find the Bareknuckles better than the Dunancs and Rio you own? I have yet to try a hand wound boutique.
I agree on the C-5 and with the right amp, it is great. I have a Line 6 Vetta II head so I just use the midrange heavy amps and the C-5 works. Key is you need a guitar with good natural mids, an amp with good mids or flaxability to get those mids some way or another.
The BBQ is thicker though.....although I never really found it dark, just smooth and round on top.
The whole lack of mids thing is a bit confusing because one would think you could add the mids you like at the amp if the pickup has the natural mids of the C-5.
KLINKDETROIT said:
Do you find the Bareknuckles better than the Dunancs and Rio you own? I have yet to try a hand wound boutique.
I agree on the C-5 and with the right amp, it is great. I have a Line 6 Vetta II head so I just use the midrange heavy amps and the C-5 works. Key is you need a guitar with good natural mids, an amp with good mids or flaxability to get those mids some way or another.
The BBQ is thicker though.....although I never really found it dark, just smooth and round on top.
The whole lack of mids thing is a bit confusing because one would think you could add the mids you like at the amp if the pickup has the natural mids of the C-5.
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twoheadedboy
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Re: PG Neck - C5 Bridge in a LP...comments please
I agree with papersoul as well. I really don't understand why people worry so much about the amount of bass, mids or trebel in a pickup unless it comes to balancing that pickup with another pickup. If you're just worrying about the sound of that pickup alone, you should be able to dial in the sound you like from your amp, if it's a decent amp. The only situation I think that would bother me is pickups that have the high midrange honk or something. That's hard to dial out.
I agree with papersoul as well. I really don't understand why people worry so much about the amount of bass, mids or trebel in a pickup unless it comes to balancing that pickup with another pickup. If you're just worrying about the sound of that pickup alone, you should be able to dial in the sound you like from your amp, if it's a decent amp. The only situation I think that would bother me is pickups that have the high midrange honk or something. That's hard to dial out.
papersoul
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Re: PG Neck - C5 Bridge in a LP...comments please
I guess my feelings are basically that the Duncan 59 is very similar to the Burstbucker Pro, bt maybe smoother because it has even coils. That is what brought me to the conclusion that the C-5 is like a hotter Burstbucker Pro, onbly smoother and a touch more midrange.
I guess my feelings are basically that the Duncan 59 is very similar to the Burstbucker Pro, bt maybe smoother because it has even coils. That is what brought me to the conclusion that the C-5 is like a hotter Burstbucker Pro, onbly smoother and a touch more midrange.
papersoul
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Re: PG Neck - C5 Bridge in a LP...comments please
I guess my feelings are basically that the Duncan 59 is very similar to the Burstbucker Pro, bt maybe smoother because it has even coils. That is what brought me to the conclusion that the C-5 is like a hotter Burstbucker Pro, onbly smoother and a touch more midrange.
I guess my feelings are basically that the Duncan 59 is very similar to the Burstbucker Pro, bt maybe smoother because it has even coils. That is what brought me to the conclusion that the C-5 is like a hotter Burstbucker Pro, onbly smoother and a touch more midrange.
