Phat Cat + ? + Seth Lover

Re: Phat Cat + ? + Seth Lover

Thanks for your answer, really. I've checked out some wiring options with sounds samples and now I've realized that I wanna have an option to play seth lover in parallel (alone and with the cats). So, is it possible? For example (push-pull "up" position):

1. Seth Lover (parallel).
2. Seth Lover (parallel) with Phat Cat middle.
3. The regular Seth Lover (series) with Phat Cat bridge. The reason we've decided to upgrade the 5-way switch and the tone pot.
4. ?
5. Seth Lover (parallel) with Phat Cat bridge.

I don't know what to wish for the 4th position, but it would be nice to have /something/ to have no spare spaces. May be some kind of wiring for Phat Cats in particular? Split coil for Seth Lover? I don't know, but please, suggest something according to your intuition.

May I ask you to update the wiring scheme for it? You've already helped a lot. However, I just wanna make it once and make it right, so there won't be any need for changing its electronics, asking someone to help and so on. I guess it will be just a lifetime upgrade.
 
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Re: Phat Cat + ? + Seth Lover

How about for the controls: volume, tone, neck/bridge blender?
 
Re: Phat Cat + ? + Seth Lover

I didn't care for the combination no matter how I mixed up the pickups in my SG. The PC ended up in the bridge of my Hamer Standard (explorer knockoff) with a 59 neck. It worked out as a bright and spanky bridge pickup in a very heavy guitar. The Seth seems a litle dark in my SG, but is better matched with a Burstbucker 3 bridge. I would prefer the Seth in my 335. I like the sounds of both the Seth and the PC, but they are kind of picky with guitars. The 59 sounds pretty good in anything from Les Pauls to Teles. No I haven't experienced the muddy Les Paul neck problem with 59s.
 
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FWIW, I think the muddy 59N in a Les Paul syndrome has to do with it either being raised too high, or being paired with a vintage output bridge pickup where the amp was dialed in to make the bridge pickup sound more full in the bottom end.

For a Jazz player, I can see the appeal of the Seth Neck and even the Seth Bridge in the neck. I wouldn't be surprised to find out the Benedetto P.A.F. was actually a Seth Bridge.

As for this type of combo, we recently had a guy interested in having his Ibanez AF75 do rockabilly in the bridge and Jazz in the neck (link). Believe it or not, he decided to go with a Benedetto A-6 which is even hotter than the Benedetto P.A.F., which just goes to show that an unlikely pairing can work when you have a specific need for it.

To your point though, the guitar makes a big difference. I cautioned against the use this setup in an Ibanez RG350 after the OP asked a different member why he thought it was a strange choice for that guitar. An Ibanez RG350 is a far cry from an Ibanez AF75.
 
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Re: Phat Cat + ? + Seth Lover

There's nothing left for me to hope it will be just fine. Yeah, it's 24-fret neck, but I think it moves a neck humbucker just a halfway to a middle position – not all the way, right? Besides, why should Seth Lover sound bad even if it would be right in the middle anyway? Probably, it would be a bit different, but… not that bad, isn't it? There are no great expectations: I just knew that the default ones were awful for me (ceramic low-end), I knew that I want to have some warm and yet articulated A2 and I also knew that not-wax-potted Seth Lovers have the best chances to fit the described category, according to a public experience. Not quite well-suited guitar, yeah, but I love to have a trem and I like its wizard neck. This is a musician who makes music, not an instrument, right? I saw some clips with the exact guitar and those fellas were just okay playing jazzy kind of stuff. As far as the cats… I don't know, I just saw somewhere that the PC-neck is even better in the middle. The bright bridge (PC-bridge) is just the experiment (according to this, I'll love it).

Just for the record, I've also bought a secondhand tremsetter («backbox»), cheap. I've seen some reviews where a significant tone enchancing effect was mentioned – because it spreads the resonanse from a brass block to a guitar body. Who knows, maybe it will cure the possible problem a little.

I'll get the guitar within a day or two. My tech-luthier is about to finish it right (even though I'd like to learn all the kitchen too). I've had to get a second push-pull to switch the neck from series to parallel. Probably, he'll make a couple of new pots too (using the defaults): to separate the adjustings for the neck's sound completely. I'll make a photo for you then and, of course, I'll ask that guy what does he think about its sound – he won't lie.
 
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Haven't got it yet, but… as I see now, these pups are not suited for a tremolo at all – they have a different string spacing. My bridge has 54mm from pole to pole, phat cats have standard 49mm. Isn't it more important than all the stuff mentioned early like a number of frets, wood and so on?
 
Re: Phat Cat + ? + Seth Lover

the video you linked to has a trem guitar, sounds fine to me
 
Re: Phat Cat + ? + Seth Lover

Well, having a trem might make the poles not line up perfectly, but they should sill hear the strings pretty well.
 
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