Pick suggestion request

Juanhanglo

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What other brands/materials are similar to dunlop tortex?

I usually use 2mm gator grips. I like the stiffness and precision they allow me.
I also like the lack of that clicky sound the give.

I tried the red jazz 3s but found them too flexy and clicky.
Now, i just discovered the dunlop pitch black jazz 3s.

They are tortex and actually thinner, but more rigid than the regular red jazz 3. I absolutely love these things!

So it turns out i like the tortex material in a variety of shapes.

Question.

Who else makes picks that are similar or somewhat similar to tortex?
 
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Most other companies call the material Dunlop named "Tortex" Delrin (which is the actual Dupont plastics name for the material if I'm not mistaken), yet Dunlop uses the name Delrin for their glossy picks which can get confusing. Tons of companies make Delrin picks but you'll pretty much only find tear drop shape, Jazz shape, large Jazz size, standard shape and huge triangle picks in that material. Dava makes cool grippy picks in Delrin but if you found a Jazz III flexible they'll feel like mush to you and absurdly flexible.

What gauge pitch blacks are you using? You can get them in 1.5mm from Dunlop or if you go custom printed (www.intunegp.com) you can get 2.0mm Jazz picks in Delrin. Be warned though, these have NO bevel on the edge like the gator grips and at 2.0mm with no bevel they're horrible to play. You have to almost fight them over the strings since it's so thick with such a hard edge. I actually beveled one out of curiosity and it was way better. Anything over 1mm needs a bevel IMO or it's actually challenging to use since they fight you.
 
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A fellow islander! I grew up and lived near jones beach for the first 30 years.

I tried davas and did not like them.

I am using 1.14mm pitch blacks and with no bevel, they interact about the same as the gators. I don't know if it's the size, weight, or shape, but i seem to have more finesse with these. So much so that the gators sorta feel like a caveman beating on a rock in comparison.

I know what you mean about fighting non beveled tips. I like clayton acetal picks for stiffness but the square tip is a no go. They are good when you play them in a bit to round them off......until they get lost.
I've only used the 1.52mm ones (the small tear drop shape). Maybe i'll try some thinner ones after i get used to playing with the pitch blacks.

Have you found that square tipped picks give a more midrange focused sound? Almost flat and one dimensional?

Lexan picks like the big stubbies are great but very clicky and i find the thin tip also slows me down.

Any other material besides delrin (thanks for that. Big help.) That'll give me that full bodied, thick pick tone?
 
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have you tried the dunlop JD Jazztones? they are big thick picks with great attack but a pretty meaty sound. If you're used to the shape of Jazz IIIs, try the 205 or 208 Jazztones.
 
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I like the Dunlop Ultex line myself both regular Ultex and the Ultex Sharps in all gauges. But recently I've been using the John Petrucci Jazz 3 picks and they are great for me . Some point in the future I would like to try some Red Bear picks.
 
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Lately, to avoid the clicky sound, I tend to rotate the pick so the point is aiming toward my palm and play with the round end of the pick. It rolls off the strings easier, makes tremolo picking faster, even and controls the attack/level better.
 
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A fellow islander! I grew up and lived near jones beach for the first 30 years.

I tried davas and did not like them.

I am using 1.14mm pitch blacks and with no bevel, they interact about the same as the gators. I don't know if it's the size, weight, or shape, but i seem to have more finesse with these. So much so that the gators sorta feel like a caveman beating on a rock in comparison.

I know what you mean about fighting non beveled tips. I like clayton acetal picks for stiffness but the square tip is a no go. They are good when you play them in a bit to round them off......until they get lost.
I've only used the 1.52mm ones (the small tear drop shape). Maybe i'll try some thinner ones after i get used to playing with the pitch blacks.

Have you found that square tipped picks give a more midrange focused sound? Almost flat and one dimensional?

Lexan picks like the big stubbies are great but very clicky and i find the thin tip also slows me down.

Any other material besides delrin (thanks for that. Big help.) That'll give me that full bodied, thick pick tone?

Yup, been on LI all my life.

I became a bit of a pick collecting junkie as I started searching for my favorite pick so I've tried a silly amount of picks. I'd bet it's all about the shape with the pitch black jazz making you like it more. The points are so much easier to play with when compared to a rounded tip like a standard shape pick like the gators. I can't play regular size picks anymore I'm only comfortable with a Jazz shape pick.

I haven't tried any square tip picks, I like the added precision of a pointed tip so I don't bother with any blunt ones anymore.

You may also want to try the Dunlop Tortex sharp picks. They have an absurdly pointed tip. I find it too sharp actually but it may work for you, worth a shot. I forgot that shape comes in Tortex material.

I tried the big stubbies and just like the v-picks and gravity picks I tried they chirp or squeak when they go over the strings and it drives me nuts. I think that's partly due to the material but also the very thick and rounded shape.

Another one worth trying may be pickboy pos-a-grip or the Jazz size pos-a-grip they're cellulose picks similar to vintage Fender picks (well as close as can be made with modern materials) that will have a fairly neutral sound perhaps not as dull as tortex but not as bright as lexan or Dunlop Gel. The pos-a-grip holes in them make them real easy to hold onto as a bonus. You can usually find pickboy picks on ebay in 5 packs for about $5 or on amazon or musicians friend in 10 packs for $10, they come in 1.2mm and 1.5mm just make sure the ones you get are cellulose and not polycarbonate.

If you only want to stick with a sound similar to Tortex and Gator grip and not anything brighter then you'll be a bit limited in selection since picks only get harder and brighter than Tortex from my findings. I would say it's Gator, Tortex, Cellulose, Nylon, Dunlop Carbon fiber, Dunlop Delrin, Dunlop "stiffo", Ultex, Gel, Lexan, Acrylic, Polycarbonate, metal in terms of brightness.

As CTN mentioned the 2.0mm Jazztone sharp tip 205 may be worth a shot that will sort of combine the 2.0mm thickness of the Gator with the pointed tip and small size of the Tortex Jazz you like. They'll be a bit brighter since they're harder but not absurdly bright and they don't chirp or click across the strings sicne they're more matte finished.
 
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as for alternates from tortex, i would like to recommend Jazz III stiffos (black ones), i use XLs. to me they are stiffer, with great balanced tone with a very slick passing over the strings. thickness is same as the red ones 1.38mm. i think JP signature pick is more or less the same, with more articulation to the point and grip.

i would also recommend herco flex 75s. again one badass, it flexes though, but the tone and feel is something i like very much.

I also use the ultex sharps. slickest picks i ve ever used, but the tone is not something i m too happy with, sounds bit sterile for me.

from the tortex alternatives, u can also try TIII (hybrid of the Jazz III and the tear drop), they are my absolute goto for palm muting heavy stuff. i use the heaviest 1.5mm (it is white for those dark stages too), gives very good bottom-end with plenty of mids. i usual play them in for the same reason to avoid the fighting already mentioned, but not much. i find the thicker that any pick gets the more "Almost flat and one dimensional" it get as u mentioned. the bevel (like on gators) might get that brilliance back, but what i ve found is that the more beveled it gets (with wear), it dies out, unless u get bit of that box shape back.
 
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Thanks guys!

There are some good suggestions here. I don't mind bright as much as that clicky sound and feel.
I will look into some of these. I'm excited to experiment.
 
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