pickup output
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shogunlegend
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Re: pickup output
not really i don't think. if i'm not mistaken, higher output usually means louder.
not really i don't think. if i'm not mistaken, higher output usually means louder.
Fender_Punk
BerriesAndCreamologist
Re: pickup output
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that'll explain output for you!
Another person in need of this PDF!! I'm striking like lightening tonight!!!
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that'll explain output for you!
Benjy_26
25's Nemesis
Re: pickup output
A pickup doesn't have more gain, per se, but certain pickups hit an amp's preamp stage harder than others. This drives youR amp harder and, in turn, usually gives you more distortion.
Now, to answer your question: What determines output?
The answer is that there are a lot of things. To give you a general guideline though, remember this:
Between two pickups, both with the same magnet type, the pickup with a higher resitance will hit your amp harder. Between two pickups with the same resistance, the one with the stronger magnet will hit harder.
The confusion starts when you have pickups with differing mags and resistance figures. At that point, you just have to try 'em.
A pickup doesn't have more gain, per se, but certain pickups hit an amp's preamp stage harder than others. This drives youR amp harder and, in turn, usually gives you more distortion.
Now, to answer your question: What determines output?
The answer is that there are a lot of things. To give you a general guideline though, remember this:
Between two pickups, both with the same magnet type, the pickup with a higher resitance will hit your amp harder. Between two pickups with the same resistance, the one with the stronger magnet will hit harder.
The confusion starts when you have pickups with differing mags and resistance figures. At that point, you just have to try 'em.
Re: pickup output
wow...that's alot of info, do you know what the resistance is with a gibson 57' classic plus? Or more specifically how much gain does that pickup produce.
I'm kind of new at this and want to make sure I go about it the right way.
thanks,
kidboy
A pickup doesn't have more gain, per se, but certain pickups hit an amp's preamp stage harder than others. This drives youR amp harder and, in turn, usually gives you more distortion.
Now, to answer your question: What determines output?
The answer is that there are a lot of things. To give you a general guideline though, remember this:
Between two pickups, both with the same magnet type, the pickup with a higher resitance will hit your amp harder. Between two pickups with the same resistance, the one with the stronger magnet will hit harder.
The confusion starts when you have pickups with differing mags and resistance figures. At that point, you just have to try 'em.
wow...that's alot of info, do you know what the resistance is with a gibson 57' classic plus? Or more specifically how much gain does that pickup produce.
I'm kind of new at this and want to make sure I go about it the right way.
thanks,
kidboy
Metalblaze
New member
Re: pickup output
Welcome to the forum!
Higher output means stronger signal from the pickup. The distortion level is controlled from the amp circuit. It's generally easier for the amps to distort strong signals than weak ones.
Welcome to the forum!
Higher output means stronger signal from the pickup. The distortion level is controlled from the amp circuit. It's generally easier for the amps to distort strong signals than weak ones.
Re: pickup output
Thanks....for your response.....Very interesting stuff..you don't realize how it all works until you start researching stuff, and why something sounds the way it sounds.
Basically, I have a Gibson Les Paul Classic with the stock ceramic pickups and I'm looking for something with better, warm nice mids tone. I also want to be able to strum a chord and hear every note.
In the past I've used Seymor Duncan pickups on some guitars, but I kind of blindly bought them so it didn't do what I wanted.
So now I'm researching and trying to find a good fit, thus far the Gibson '57 Classic Plus is in the lead, however, I'm open for ideas.
Thanks....for your response.....Very interesting stuff..you don't realize how it all works until you start researching stuff, and why something sounds the way it sounds.
Basically, I have a Gibson Les Paul Classic with the stock ceramic pickups and I'm looking for something with better, warm nice mids tone. I also want to be able to strum a chord and hear every note.
In the past I've used Seymor Duncan pickups on some guitars, but I kind of blindly bought them so it didn't do what I wanted.
So now I'm researching and trying to find a good fit, thus far the Gibson '57 Classic Plus is in the lead, however, I'm open for ideas.
vinterland
New member
Re: pickup output
Yup! pickups do not have "gain"
Yup! pickups do not have "gain"
Re: pickup output
A higher output pickup will cause more distortion in an amp than a lower output pickup, but I think the EQ curve of the pickup is important as well (for example a pickup will more mids might yield more distortion than a pickup with more highs even though both pickups have the same overall output).
-Austin
A higher output pickup will cause more distortion in an amp than a lower output pickup, but I think the EQ curve of the pickup is important as well (for example a pickup will more mids might yield more distortion than a pickup with more highs even though both pickups have the same overall output).
-Austin
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Fender_Punk
BerriesAndCreamologist
Re: pickup output
Go for a Brobucker. 'Nuff said.
Go for a Brobucker. 'Nuff said.
Benjy_26
25's Nemesis
Re: pickup output
The 57 Plus is wound around the 9k range and uses an alnico II mag, IIRC.
How hard does it hit an amp? I haven't played one in a while, but it's not very hot, IMHO.
The 57 Plus is wound around the 9k range and uses an alnico II mag, IIRC.
How hard does it hit an amp? I haven't played one in a while, but it's not very hot, IMHO.
Zhangliqun
Questionologist
Re: pickup output
I had a 57+ and it was about 9k too, maybe a shade under. And they do use A2. It's got more mids and a touch more push than a regular 57 and most PAF clones due to having about 1,000 more turns of wire, but like Benjy says, it's not a hot pickup at all.
I had a 57+ and it was about 9k too, maybe a shade under. And they do use A2. It's got more mids and a touch more push than a regular 57 and most PAF clones due to having about 1,000 more turns of wire, but like Benjy says, it's not a hot pickup at all.
Re: pickup output
Welcome to the forum!!!!!
the thing is.....from what i know...and that isn't much hahah...gain is the input volume that goes into your amp, meaning a hot input signal helps breaking up the signal easier, which means the more output your guitar sends, the faster it breaks up. That's why when you roll off the volume knob on your guitar it cleans up. And yes more mids will help distorting the signal. Am I right?? or not?? correct me If I am...
Welcome to the forum!!!!!
the thing is.....from what i know...and that isn't much hahah...gain is the input volume that goes into your amp, meaning a hot input signal helps breaking up the signal easier, which means the more output your guitar sends, the faster it breaks up. That's why when you roll off the volume knob on your guitar it cleans up. And yes more mids will help distorting the signal. Am I right?? or not?? correct me If I am...
Metalblaze
New member
Re: pickup output
More mids will make the distortion more audible (=louder - human ear catches mid frequencies easier). Less mids will remain relatively cleaner but the distortion will exist on bass and treble, but it will be less audible (=not so loud)......
More mids will make the distortion more audible (=louder - human ear catches mid frequencies easier). Less mids will remain relatively cleaner but the distortion will exist on bass and treble, but it will be less audible (=not so loud)......
anewdefguitarist
New member
Re: pickup output
one time at guitar center, this guy told me to play "that dimebag guitar...it, it, its got built in distortion!"
not gonna go back there, there infinate knowledge overwhelmed me to the point of pure mental breakdown...i had to actually be carried out on a stretcher...it was a rougher point in my life, but im glad my friends at guitar center can carry me through these hard times in my life.
they suck. guitar pickups dont have distortion. somebody up there hit it on the head, it pushed your amp. my distotion (fitting name,..but misleading also) my clean channel is pushed into a 60's overdrive. nuff said.
one time at guitar center, this guy told me to play "that dimebag guitar...it, it, its got built in distortion!"
not gonna go back there, there infinate knowledge overwhelmed me to the point of pure mental breakdown...i had to actually be carried out on a stretcher...it was a rougher point in my life, but im glad my friends at guitar center can carry me through these hard times in my life.
they suck. guitar pickups dont have distortion. somebody up there hit it on the head, it pushed your amp. my distotion (fitting name,..but misleading also) my clean channel is pushed into a 60's overdrive. nuff said.
Re: pickup output
Gain=Volume
Volume=Gain
There isn't a difference. No pickup has built in distortion, passive any way.
What makes a pickup have more volume? Stronger magnet mostly, and more winds.
Gain=Volume
Volume=Gain
There isn't a difference. No pickup has built in distortion, passive any way.
What makes a pickup have more volume? Stronger magnet mostly, and more winds.
