Played a 2017 Gibson Les Paul Traditional HP.

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My friend just bought one of these for a good price as the 2018 line is coming in. It's the one with the robot tuners, push/pull everything and sculpted heel.

I liked it a lot! The quality is definitely there. The fret work and factory set up were better than most I have seen. The flame top was pretty sweet.

I especially liked the heel. It's the same as on the Axcess. I did not notice any difference in tone or sustain compared to other Les Pauls I've played, but the upper fret access sure was much easier.

I even liked the robot tuners. The main benefit that I can see is being able to switch between alternate tunings quickly. The novelty of being able to tune up to E standard wears off quickly of course. They work like normal tuners too, which means the guitar goes out of tune now and then... I think if I were to want non-traditional tuners then I'd probably got with locking tuners for stability. Nonetheless, it was good fun to switch between drop D, DADGAD, open E, etc. Lots of tunes that are in these tunings I didn't bother with on my own guitars because it's too much hassle... I can see robot tuners really opening up my practice repertoire.

This particular model has push/pull pots all round, and internally there are switches you can move to change their function. A lot of it is stuff I wasn't interested in to be honest... I never did like the sound of split humbuckers or out of phase Peter Green tones. There's some treble bleeds on there which are useful I guess. I didn't look inside the guitar but I assume it's a circuit board... in the box there were pickup connectors, a bit like the liberator system, for changing pickups. Looks like doing so should be nice and easy.

The pickups were pretty good. Nothing much to say about them, but no complaints.

Overall I thought it was a pretty sweet axe. Modern Gibson's get a lot of criticism, especially the robot tuning sculpted heel stuff... but this guitar was really good.
 
Re: Played a 2017 Gibson Les Paul Traditional HP.

My friend just bought one of these for a good price as the 2018 line is coming in. It's the one with the robot tuners, push/pull everything and sculpted heel.

I liked it a lot! The quality is definitely there. The fret work and factory set up were better than most I have seen. The flame top was pretty sweet.

I especially liked the heel. It's the same as on the Axcess. I did not notice any difference in tone or sustain compared to other Les Pauls I've played, but the upper fret access sure was much easier.

I even liked the robot tuners. The main benefit that I can see is being able to switch between alternate tunings quickly. The novelty of being able to tune up to E standard wears off quickly of course. They work like normal tuners too, which means the guitar goes out of tune now and then... I think if I were to want non-traditional tuners then I'd probably got with locking tuners for stability. Nonetheless, it was good fun to switch between drop D, DADGAD, open E, etc. Lots of tunes that are in these tunings I didn't bother with on my own guitars because it's too much hassle... I can see robot tuners really opening up my practice repertoire.

This particular model has push/pull pots all round, and internally there are switches you can move to change their function. A lot of it is stuff I wasn't interested in to be honest... I never did like the sound of split humbuckers or out of phase Peter Green tones. There's some treble bleeds on there which are useful I guess. I didn't look inside the guitar but I assume it's a circuit board... in the box there were pickup connectors, a bit like the liberator system, for changing pickups. Looks like doing so should be nice and easy.

The pickups were pretty good. Nothing much to say about them, but no complaints.

Overall I thought it was a pretty sweet axe. Modern Gibson's get a lot of criticism, especially the robot tuning sculpted heel stuff... but this guitar was really good.

I haven’t played any and, while I understand the market reaction (logically), I think it was overblown - mainly, I think, because of the 2015 take-it-or-leave-it price-hike.

And, while I suspect robot tuners aren’t ever going to be my thing, I admit that the sculpted heel has had me eyeing my own Les Paul and a hacksaw...


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Re: Played a 2017 Gibson Les Paul Traditional HP.

Yes, it has the titanium zero fret thing and also titanium saddles.

I wouldn't have noticed. Just felt like a good Les Paul to me.
 
Re: Played a 2017 Gibson Les Paul Traditional HP.

And the wider nut or was it put back to standard for this year?

(The 2015 width feels odd to me)
 
Re: Played a 2017 Gibson Les Paul Traditional HP.

I have a 2016 LP studio. Very good instrument. Only gripe was the pcb board which I replaced along with pickups.
 
Re: Played a 2017 Gibson Les Paul Traditional HP.

And the wider nut or was it put back to standard for this year?

(The 2015 width feels odd to me)

No, the 2017 has a narrower nut.

I've not actually played a 2015, but the website says the 2015 has a 45.993mm nut width while the 2017 has 44.323mm.

Still wider than a Strat neck though. It's odd, I like narrow necks but this one felt pretty nice in my hand.
 
Re: Played a 2017 Gibson Les Paul Traditional HP.

And the wider nut or was it put back to standard for this year?

(The 2015 width feels odd to me)

Yeah, the 2015 takes a little getting used to. I have a LP Special and like it a lot. I did however put a few dollars into it.
 
Re: Played a 2017 Gibson Les Paul Traditional HP.

Nice, it is cool hearing about a guitar from someone that actually picked it up and played. I hope your buddy enjoys his axe for years to come.
 
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