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shogunlegend
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Re: Pod opinions
that's great to know. where did you graduate, sdguf university? huh smart guy?
that's great to know. where did you graduate, sdguf university? huh smart guy?
Pod opinions
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Skarekrough
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I've gigged my Pod XT Live with an Atomic 18 watter and use a Pod XT for recording and practice.
When gigging I went for a few very distinctive sounds; a Plexi, Soldano and a Twin. The other guitar player that had one of the reissue Mesa's commented on how I nailed the Plexi and Soldano sounds. Now, this is a guy that has owned both of those amps in his lifetime. He has owned and played them for years.
For recording and practice I tend to go with the same approach. Some of the sounds just don't sound right unless they're moving air. I have patches that with the Atomic are just phenomenal but you wouldn't know it listening through the headphones. There's alot that happens to the sound once it leaves the unit and it really does require the time and effort to tweak.
They're great units. The community that uses them is fantastic and very open and willing to answer questions and help out with the extremely tweakable components of them. That in and of itself does alot to add a level if funtionality to it that no other offering has. If there's a way to et something done, those guys know how to do it.
Check out the Institute Of Noise page. He's a user on here and gigs with 18 Watters and has some phenomenal patches he has graciously made available online. Many of my own fave patches started with ones he created and I tweaked to my own tastes. Also check the Atomic website and MySpace page.
I've gigged my Pod XT Live with an Atomic 18 watter and use a Pod XT for recording and practice.
When gigging I went for a few very distinctive sounds; a Plexi, Soldano and a Twin. The other guitar player that had one of the reissue Mesa's commented on how I nailed the Plexi and Soldano sounds. Now, this is a guy that has owned both of those amps in his lifetime. He has owned and played them for years.
For recording and practice I tend to go with the same approach. Some of the sounds just don't sound right unless they're moving air. I have patches that with the Atomic are just phenomenal but you wouldn't know it listening through the headphones. There's alot that happens to the sound once it leaves the unit and it really does require the time and effort to tweak.
They're great units. The community that uses them is fantastic and very open and willing to answer questions and help out with the extremely tweakable components of them. That in and of itself does alot to add a level if funtionality to it that no other offering has. If there's a way to et something done, those guys know how to do it.
Check out the Institute Of Noise page. He's a user on here and gigs with 18 Watters and has some phenomenal patches he has graciously made available online. Many of my own fave patches started with ones he created and I tweaked to my own tastes. Also check the Atomic website and MySpace page.
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shogunlegend
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Re: Pod opinions
calling me names? dude, you're not that great of a fighter to be talking to me like that. you better reevaluate the way you address me son. i react when people talk down to me like anyone else who has an ounce of pride. i'm not afraid to stand up or take it to hte mattt. next time, mind your own business and leave my business between me and my adversaries between me and them.
besides, no one answered my question. were you referring to the background stuff or the lead guitar? the background rhythm and drums was from a dusty old drum machine. if you're referring to the rhythm guitar, them i'm puzzled about that and need better explanations.
calling me names? dude, you're not that great of a fighter to be talking to me like that. you better reevaluate the way you address me son. i react when people talk down to me like anyone else who has an ounce of pride. i'm not afraid to stand up or take it to hte mattt. next time, mind your own business and leave my business between me and my adversaries between me and them.
besides, no one answered my question. were you referring to the background stuff or the lead guitar? the background rhythm and drums was from a dusty old drum machine. if you're referring to the rhythm guitar, them i'm puzzled about that and need better explanations.
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shogunlegend
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dude, i wouldn't have minded any kind of constructive criticism. but these guys were being sarcastic. then you have to come along an defend them. hell son, let them fight their own battles. they want to come around here saying sarcastic stuff to me and they know what to expect. everyone probably knows what to expect from me by now. i'm a fighter and i don't take anyone's trash talk.
i'm a friggin nice guy and i'm civil until someone starts in on me, then i don't hessitate to stand up. i don't take crap from any one. not YOU, not KGMESSIER, or any of these other self-proclaimed guitar elites.
the problem with you guys is you think your crap doesn't stink, but it sure as hell does. you come around here calling my tone rubbish (which i think means trash) when i can probably outplay half of you guys. the difference is that i don't go around acting like a friggin stuck-up star. i'll be the first to admit that i don't know how to record or get great tone, that's why i'm here. i want to learn, but i don't need some smartass telling me that i can't work a control knob on a stinking pod. i sure as hell can play the guitar and anyone who wants to challenge me go right ahead. i'll beat their ass with my crappy little recorder.
they might have better recordings, but NO one will say that i can't play well. now go about your business son, and let things be. don't get on my bad side and we'll be cool. maybe i'm a jerk. maybe i just have a short temper. i don't know, but as long as you're cool with me, i'll be cool with you. it's easy.
dude, i wouldn't have minded any kind of constructive criticism. but these guys were being sarcastic. then you have to come along an defend them. hell son, let them fight their own battles. they want to come around here saying sarcastic stuff to me and they know what to expect. everyone probably knows what to expect from me by now. i'm a fighter and i don't take anyone's trash talk.
i'm a friggin nice guy and i'm civil until someone starts in on me, then i don't hessitate to stand up. i don't take crap from any one. not YOU, not KGMESSIER, or any of these other self-proclaimed guitar elites.
the problem with you guys is you think your crap doesn't stink, but it sure as hell does. you come around here calling my tone rubbish (which i think means trash) when i can probably outplay half of you guys. the difference is that i don't go around acting like a friggin stuck-up star. i'll be the first to admit that i don't know how to record or get great tone, that's why i'm here. i want to learn, but i don't need some smartass telling me that i can't work a control knob on a stinking pod. i sure as hell can play the guitar and anyone who wants to challenge me go right ahead. i'll beat their ass with my crappy little recorder.
they might have better recordings, but NO one will say that i can't play well. now go about your business son, and let things be. don't get on my bad side and we'll be cool. maybe i'm a jerk. maybe i just have a short temper. i don't know, but as long as you're cool with me, i'll be cool with you. it's easy.
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shogunlegend
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that's probably because rua is a heavyweight fighter and i'm not in that weight division. if he dropped down to my weight class, that might be a different story. but if i had to fight for my life, i certainly wouldn't run away from him. besides, rua probably has enough respect for people not to go around talking trash. read more carefully buddy, i don't "mouth-off," i just get pissed.
that's fine with me, and i can respect you talking to me this way a lot better. your explanation was much better this time and i can see where you and the rest are coming from in regards to my clip. as far as your other opinions, then unless you have a double standard, everyone should be welcome on the forums - even those with short tempers.
don't come up with this disgrace and aggressive thug crap with me. if you want to condemn people like me and promote forum snitches (like those who ratted me out before) or trash talk from people who can't back it up, then maybe you need to re-evaluate who is really a disgrace.
where did you come in on this discussion when KGMESSIER put me down with his sarcastic comments? sounds to me like your hypocritical. say something to that guy then. don't come around here talking trash to me and calling me a disgrace. maybe you should have been more diplomatic and told him something or maybe offered a better explanation than his sarcastic implication that i can't work a pod.
yeah, that's what i though. you didn't see it from that angle did you? now let's see if you have enough honor to admit when you're wrong. don't come around here referring to me with curse words that represent bodily excriment orifices. i don't care how you meant it, you still referred to me like that and crossed the line. sounds to me like YOU'RE the one who needs to learn some respect.
that's probably because rua is a heavyweight fighter and i'm not in that weight division. if he dropped down to my weight class, that might be a different story. but if i had to fight for my life, i certainly wouldn't run away from him. besides, rua probably has enough respect for people not to go around talking trash. read more carefully buddy, i don't "mouth-off," i just get pissed.
that's fine with me, and i can respect you talking to me this way a lot better. your explanation was much better this time and i can see where you and the rest are coming from in regards to my clip. as far as your other opinions, then unless you have a double standard, everyone should be welcome on the forums - even those with short tempers.
don't come up with this disgrace and aggressive thug crap with me. if you want to condemn people like me and promote forum snitches (like those who ratted me out before) or trash talk from people who can't back it up, then maybe you need to re-evaluate who is really a disgrace.
where did you come in on this discussion when KGMESSIER put me down with his sarcastic comments? sounds to me like your hypocritical. say something to that guy then. don't come around here talking trash to me and calling me a disgrace. maybe you should have been more diplomatic and told him something or maybe offered a better explanation than his sarcastic implication that i can't work a pod.
yeah, that's what i though. you didn't see it from that angle did you? now let's see if you have enough honor to admit when you're wrong. don't come around here referring to me with curse words that represent bodily excriment orifices. i don't care how you meant it, you still referred to me like that and crossed the line. sounds to me like YOU'RE the one who needs to learn some respect.
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bigheadood
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Robert S.
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Re: Pod opinions
I have had a Pod 2.0 since they released the XT version. I can usually get fairly solid tones from the 2.0 and on more than one occasion members have commented that they thought it was a tube amp. Thats not to say that I am convinced that any modeling rig is the end all to tone or that my stuff is all that impressive but a Pod can get the job done, especially when you have budget and room limitations. I didn't really start getting useable tones easily until I loaded the editing software on to my computer. The editiing software makes it a lot easier to see and store your changes and to fine tune your tones. I also don't use the Pods effects but I am sure that they are more than adequate for most people that don't have access to better than average computers, recording software and plug-ins.
I am not sure why this thread thread got overly agressive. Is it really so important to defend a piece of gear that we have to resort to name calling and veiled threats? I mean seriously neither the Pod, the GT-8 or any other piece of gear really deserves the enery spent in this thread.
Musicians are passionate about tone and I get that. The thing is though that you have to expect people to disagree with you when you post on the internet and you can't take it personally. One mans music is another mans noise.
When you post clips of your playing you are really opening yourself up to a world of differing opinions. If you can't take the heat then you shouldn't post clips. I have some of my stuff posted online and I bring it here from time to time. Usually I get a solid response but it's the differing opinions that I often find most useful. The "this sounds off" statements are the ones I try to learn from so that I might improve my techniques for later efforts. Sure, hearing that something is ratty stings a little but if you allow yourself the time to get over it, you find the opportunity for improvement and isn't improvement the reason most of us search out sites like this in the first place?
Claiming that you have found the best of something, posting a clip, making excuses after the fact and then calling people names and being overly agressive when they disagree with you isn't the best way to do business.
Please take it easy guys. If you stop arguing with each other you might actually learn something.
I have had a Pod 2.0 since they released the XT version. I can usually get fairly solid tones from the 2.0 and on more than one occasion members have commented that they thought it was a tube amp. Thats not to say that I am convinced that any modeling rig is the end all to tone or that my stuff is all that impressive but a Pod can get the job done, especially when you have budget and room limitations. I didn't really start getting useable tones easily until I loaded the editing software on to my computer. The editiing software makes it a lot easier to see and store your changes and to fine tune your tones. I also don't use the Pods effects but I am sure that they are more than adequate for most people that don't have access to better than average computers, recording software and plug-ins.
I am not sure why this thread thread got overly agressive. Is it really so important to defend a piece of gear that we have to resort to name calling and veiled threats? I mean seriously neither the Pod, the GT-8 or any other piece of gear really deserves the enery spent in this thread.
Musicians are passionate about tone and I get that. The thing is though that you have to expect people to disagree with you when you post on the internet and you can't take it personally. One mans music is another mans noise.
When you post clips of your playing you are really opening yourself up to a world of differing opinions. If you can't take the heat then you shouldn't post clips. I have some of my stuff posted online and I bring it here from time to time. Usually I get a solid response but it's the differing opinions that I often find most useful. The "this sounds off" statements are the ones I try to learn from so that I might improve my techniques for later efforts. Sure, hearing that something is ratty stings a little but if you allow yourself the time to get over it, you find the opportunity for improvement and isn't improvement the reason most of us search out sites like this in the first place?
Claiming that you have found the best of something, posting a clip, making excuses after the fact and then calling people names and being overly agressive when they disagree with you isn't the best way to do business.
Please take it easy guys. If you stop arguing with each other you might actually learn something.
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Skarekrough
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You forgot about the derogatory nature of someone exhibiting the bravado of a 14-year old without any consequences to his actions referring to someone as "son."
You forgot about the derogatory nature of someone exhibiting the bravado of a 14-year old without any consequences to his actions referring to someone as "son."
sosomething
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Kosh Naranek
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Re: Pod opinions
I've got Amplitube and I've found it very handy. If you have a decent audio interface with good A/D converters, I think it can get you some great tones. As with a lot of products, the presets are kinda over the top with gain and processing. It's cheaper than a POD, sounds great, is easy to use, and you have the flexibility of recording your guitar direct, then picking what amp you wanna run it through when you're mixing.
If I may interrupt with an on-topic post, Scott, have you considered going the software route if you're thinking of recording modeled guitar tones? Guitar Rig or Amplitube?
I've got Amplitube and I've found it very handy. If you have a decent audio interface with good A/D converters, I think it can get you some great tones. As with a lot of products, the presets are kinda over the top with gain and processing. It's cheaper than a POD, sounds great, is easy to use, and you have the flexibility of recording your guitar direct, then picking what amp you wanna run it through when you're mixing.
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shogunlegend
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LET'S GET THIS STRAIGHT ONCE AND FOR ALL: i don't know why you guys keep referring to me being pissed about the clip. i don't care about the stinking clip and never did. i don't give a **** if someone doesn't like one of my clips. i'll just work harder, make a newer and better one. simple as that. get it out of your heads that i don't like the criticism.
my problem is when people talk down to me or get sarcastic with me. i could care less about the clip. what's so hard to understand about that? THE POINT IS NOT THE FREAKING CLIP, it's the smartasses that piss me off.
and if you're going to say something about somebody's music, you should at least explain your position a little bit. just saying something sucks doesn't tell anyone anything except that you don't like it. so get off this attack shogunlegend tangent because you are all WRONG anyway. I"M NOT MAD ABOUT THE STINKING FRIGGIN CLIP OK! now we can move on, thank you.
LET'S GET THIS STRAIGHT ONCE AND FOR ALL: i don't know why you guys keep referring to me being pissed about the clip. i don't care about the stinking clip and never did. i don't give a **** if someone doesn't like one of my clips. i'll just work harder, make a newer and better one. simple as that. get it out of your heads that i don't like the criticism.
my problem is when people talk down to me or get sarcastic with me. i could care less about the clip. what's so hard to understand about that? THE POINT IS NOT THE FREAKING CLIP, it's the smartasses that piss me off.
and if you're going to say something about somebody's music, you should at least explain your position a little bit. just saying something sucks doesn't tell anyone anything except that you don't like it. so get off this attack shogunlegend tangent because you are all WRONG anyway. I"M NOT MAD ABOUT THE STINKING FRIGGIN CLIP OK! now we can move on, thank you.
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shogunlegend
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thanks for pointing that out mr. antagonist, but if you were half as literate as you think you are you would realize that I"M NOT MAD ABOUT THE STINKING CLIPS. I DON"T CARE ABOUT THE STINKING CRITICISM - SON! I JUST DON'T LIKE PEOPLE BEING SARCASTIC TO ME, THAT'S ALL. GET IT THROUGH YOUR HEAD.
thanks for pointing that out mr. antagonist, but if you were half as literate as you think you are you would realize that I"M NOT MAD ABOUT THE STINKING CLIPS. I DON"T CARE ABOUT THE STINKING CRITICISM - SON! I JUST DON'T LIKE PEOPLE BEING SARCASTIC TO ME, THAT'S ALL. GET IT THROUGH YOUR HEAD.
sosomething
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I don't know about the rest of you guys, but I think Shogun's just pissed about us not digging on his clip.
I don't know about the rest of you guys, but I think Shogun's just pissed about us not digging on his clip.
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Thanks guys,
Robert, I have the room but not the cash...I'd love to have a screamin high gain tube head and 4X12 cab mic'd up but I just can't seem to find that extra $2000 laying around! Like you suggested, I don't think I would be using any of the on-board effects from the Pod. I'm learning my way around the Logic Express effects and I really like them.
Kosh,
Again, thanks for the response. Yes I have thought about some dedicated amp software but have not heard any of it. My audio interface is a little Presonus Inspire. It's definately entry-level but it gets the job done for now.
I may check into that a little further. Do the companies that sell those plug-ins release updates for them the way Line 6 does (i.e. the metal pack etc.)?
Thanks guys,
Robert, I have the room but not the cash...I'd love to have a screamin high gain tube head and 4X12 cab mic'd up but I just can't seem to find that extra $2000 laying around! Like you suggested, I don't think I would be using any of the on-board effects from the Pod. I'm learning my way around the Logic Express effects and I really like them.
Kosh,
Again, thanks for the response. Yes I have thought about some dedicated amp software but have not heard any of it. My audio interface is a little Presonus Inspire. It's definately entry-level but it gets the job done for now.
I may check into that a little further. Do the companies that sell those plug-ins release updates for them the way Line 6 does (i.e. the metal pack etc.)?
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shogunlegend
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vinterland
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Last I checked, it was you who retorted to about every comment in this thread.
Last I checked, it was you who retorted to about every comment in this thread.
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shogunlegend
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ah great! did you figure that out all by yourself or did sosomething help you?
ah great! did you figure that out all by yourself or did sosomething help you?
Virtual Kevorkian
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If Shogun isn't 15 years old, he's got a serious god-complex.
If Shogun isn't 15 years old, he's got a serious god-complex.
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shogunlegend
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jeez, you have to start in on me again too? i guess a 16 year old is going to tell me something about age? get over yourself dude. you guys must like getting into it with me or else you would leave well enough alone.
jeez, you have to start in on me again too? i guess a 16 year old is going to tell me something about age? get over yourself dude. you guys must like getting into it with me or else you would leave well enough alone.
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