Pointy basses that aren't horrible

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uh you can always drip some epoxy there, mix some epoxy paint on the holes left by the frets, then just put an epoxy clear coat over the whole thing, it might as well take you what? half an hour on just mixing and applying epoxy plus a couple hours while it dries, and is a nice experiment
 
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A bit out of my price range.

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I have a Charvel 2B. Now, Im not a big Bass guy, so Im sure Im not an expert on basses, but I have tried bunches over the years, and this one is a very good player and sounds great too. Of course the pups were upgraded when I got it with Dimarzios.
 
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I once saw a guy in a C&W/Southern Rock band playing a Pepto-Bismol Pink Jackson Rhoads. It was a righty, he was a lefty.

Pointy geetars ain't just for moshing.

Scott Ian used a Custom Jackson that looked like an LP Jr for a decade or more. Decidedly not pointy.


And Metal isn't an STD, though if you did wind up in the sack with a Metal chick (and survived) there's a 50/50 chance of "turning".

At its core, Metal isn't all that different from most other genres: Sinatra sang about life, love, Lady Luck, and being your own man. Jazz does the same thing. C&W does the same thing. HipHop and Reggae do as well, though they do acknowledge political issues directly.

The "problem" with Metal started when the Punks got into it and brought with them their "violence for the sake of violence", nonsensical screaming at the top of their lungs, and speed for speed's sake. Then a few of the more technically minded and self-absorbed turned it into an Olympic event.
Still others turned it into a Machismo competition.
Let's not even discuss the Clowns with the growling and corpsepaint.

However, I've yet to hear someone like Sinatra, George Jones, or Sir Mix-A-Lot take on classic literature like the Charge of the Light Brigade, Icarus and Daedalus, the Norse invasion of Saxony, classic Hammer films, post-apocalyptic life, Science Fiction in general, or even modern works like The Loneliness of the Long-Distance Runner, much less modern politics, the issues of medical incompetence and malpractice, the attempted political revolution in China's Tiananmen Square, the collapse of the American Farm, or the threat of Nuclear War. Even RUSH covered similar topics, and they're not considered "Metal" by most people.

The "face" of Metal is noise and violence. The core of Metal is musicianship and technical ability that is reminiscent of Classical, coming from people who were largely self-taught, and that's more the rule than the exception. While most of the top-ranked Jazz musicians have a College degree in music on their wall, a larger percentage of Metal musicians have the albums they learned from on theirs. While the typical Metalhead can't read sheet music, many can create a Classically-themed guitar solo on the fly that is equal in technicality and compositional form to the works of Beethoven, Chopin, or Mozart, and again, they learned it from listening, not by being told.

Few Metal players move on to Jazz, but those that do, and do so via traditional School Of Music (Berkely, etc) tend to fare better than those without a background in a similarly technical genre. Andy Timmons and Alex Skolnick are two names that come to mind. Both were considered Metal shred kings in their day, and later made their mark in the Jazz/Fusion world.

Most Metal players aren't afraid to embrace different genres, but I still find the same old prejudices in nearly every other genre, even against non-Metal. C&W is too simplistic for a Jazz bassist. Jazz is too busy for a C&W player. Blues doesn't venture out of its little box. None of them do. How long did it take Fusion to get any respect from both Jazz and Rock circles? Even Prog rockers - who share more with Fusion than any other genre - were against it. "If you're going to play Jazz, play Jazz" they said.

Meanwhile, Metal has more branches than a California Redwood.
It's truly the Tree of Life.

>>>> Stands in front of computer and applauds....<<<<<<< :clap:
 
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Violence for violence sake is an effect. Not going to ascribe the cause. At least not in an open thread.
But then, you say that like it's a bad thing (in best Dead Pool inflection).

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uh you can always drip some epoxy there, mix some epoxy paint on the holes left by the frets, then just put an epoxy clear coat over the whole thing, it might as well take you what? half an hour on just mixing and applying epoxy plus a couple hours while it dries, and is a nice experiment
Well, it turns out that I need a reamer for the tuning machine holes. So be it. That's the route I'm going. Not fretless on the neck I have. Get it?

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Fretless are indeed their own beast. I had a Pedulla PentaBuzz some years ago that was great, except the previous owner used roundwounds on it and ate through the fretboard coating.

On one hand, I wish I would've kept it, but on the other hand, the guy in Japan I sold it to helped me track down my current "I'll be buried with it" guitar (and no, it isn't pointy :lol: ) which was only available in Japan.
 
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I've owned a ton of pointy basses. Mostly Charvel/Jacksons.
The Charvel 3B was great, neck through, active electronics. Stock pickups arent terrible. They are basically the same bass the Ellefson recorded Rustin Piece with.
I currently own a Jackson JS2, A Jackson CMG, a Jackson Kelly, A Jackson Kellybird V and s early 90s Jackson Concert V.
Ive also had an early BC Rick NJ series Mockingbird
 
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While most of the top-ranked Jazz musicians have a College degree in music on their wall, a larger percentage of Metal musicians have the albums they learned from on theirs. While the typical Metalhead can't read sheet music, many can create a Classically-themed guitar solo on the fly that is equal in technicality and compositional form to the works of Beethoven, Chopin, or Mozart, and again, they learned it from listening, not by being told.

Who? As much as I love the metal repertoire I cannot say that I've heard anybody approach this level of sophistication. If there is indeed anything in the metal guitar repertoire that could go back-to-back with, say, the Tempest Sonata in terms of musical multivalence (I have two volumes of analyses of the first movement alone sitting next to me), I would definitely be interested. I hope you will not find it condescending for me to doubt the statement, though, as I've yet to hear such a thing.
 
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You could probably make a case for the more intricate progressive metal bands, like Tool and Queensryche, having a lot of classical structures to their music.
 
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My pointy bass. It looks all 80s hair metal, but it sounds great for classic rock and blues too.
The stock Jackson pickups sounded blah, so I have a Dimarzio Split P and Ultr Jazz pair in it now.
 
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You could probably make a case for the more intricate progressive metal bands, like Tool and Queensryche, having a lot of classical structures to their music.

Well, the claim was about 'improvised solos', and the subject 'typical metalheads', but as a Queensrÿche fan of more than a decade I think I can safely say that I have yet to hear anything from them approach the complexity of, say, the aforementioned Tempest sonata.
 
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On another matter: Are there any Warmoth-style brands that sell pointy necks? Neither them, nor Musikraft or USACG (not a big surprise there!) seem to offer them except as a custom option.
 
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If you want to hear bands that use technical complexity, try Dimmu Borgir or Cradle of Filth.

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lol technical complexity of classical music from a self taught guitarist, just look at power metal, Kai Hansen, Michael Weikath, Henjo Richter and Roland Grapow just to name a few, by the way kai and weiki are pretty much the godfathers of power metal and they're self taught


around minute 2:42 they play the main motif of in the hall of the mountain king, according to kai he learnt it by ear as he was unable to read music back then, weiki used a music sheet and ear as he knew how to read music at least enough to being able to use the sheet, although it's pretty much ripping a classical piece they have also come with original pieces that compete with classical music, a good example is the solo battle kai and weiki do on Halloween, roland grapow has many solo stuff and sideprojects on which he shows off similar complexity, that's the reason weiki took him as the replacement for kai when he lef helloween
 
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My Christmas/birthday present
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Sorry, didn't manage to get the top of the headstock into the shot.

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The pointiest bass I ever had was an Ibanez Axstar in the late 80's early 90's. I'll agree it wasn't horrible. Easy to play for a guitar player. Wasn't stellar either, however.
 
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