StalePretzel
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Re: PRS Vs LTD
Which is why i told him the wood wouldn't really play a factor...
Which is why i told him the wood wouldn't really play a factor...
PRS Vs LTD
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astrozombie
KatyPerryologist
Re: PRS Vs LTD
but we're trying to steer him away from crappy digital line 6 sounding marshalls, not towards tone hell! :banghead:
but we're trying to steer him away from crappy digital line 6 sounding marshalls, not towards tone hell! :banghead:
veryhungrycaterpilla
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Re: PRS Vs LTD
I had a SE Custom 22. You'll have to put in new pups for metal. The stock pups are excellent for clean to moderate overdrive. Metal ain't thar thing. So get the SE and put metal-friendly pups in it or go with the ltd.
I had a SE Custom 22. You'll have to put in new pups for metal. The stock pups are excellent for clean to moderate overdrive. Metal ain't thar thing. So get the SE and put metal-friendly pups in it or go with the ltd.
vermillion_blood89
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Re: PRS Vs LTD
WELL SAID!!!!
guys... u know may b ill change my amp someday... i mean now i play a local amp... then ill get an MG (according to my budget).. then may b ill upgrade to a JVM..
but with guitars... i wanna stick to one good guitar... something which answers to my taste... metal n great/amazing tone...
WELL SAID!!!!
guys... u know may b ill change my amp someday... i mean now i play a local amp... then ill get an MG (according to my budget).. then may b ill upgrade to a JVM..
but with guitars... i wanna stick to one good guitar... something which answers to my taste... metal n great/amazing tone...
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dominus
King Midas to Cheap Guitars
Re: PRS Vs LTD
If I had to choose between the two, I'd go for the PRS myself, Mahogany makes a huge difference for tone, and I'm a metalhead, through and through. There's plenty of alternatives out there though, don't just limit yourself to what your influences play...
Here's what I'd get instead of the LTD:
http://www.rondomusic.com/dracobk.html
Mahogany, stringthrough bridge, set neck. For what you'd spend on the PRS or LTD, you could get that guitar, a case, + replacement pickups (which you'd want to do on the LTD and PRS anyway.)
I've got one of those with an Invader in the bridge and it kills.
Instead of the PRS:
http://www.rondomusic.com/product1906.html
I just put a George Lynch Screamin' Demon into one of these last night, sounds awesome as well. I don't like floating tremolos much myself, so I tossed on two more springs, now it stays in place.
They've also got plenty of Les Paul copies in the $200 range. I'd own 4 of them if it was stringthrough and had the switch by the knobs.
If I had to choose between the two, I'd go for the PRS myself, Mahogany makes a huge difference for tone, and I'm a metalhead, through and through. There's plenty of alternatives out there though, don't just limit yourself to what your influences play...
Here's what I'd get instead of the LTD:
http://www.rondomusic.com/dracobk.html
Mahogany, stringthrough bridge, set neck. For what you'd spend on the PRS or LTD, you could get that guitar, a case, + replacement pickups (which you'd want to do on the LTD and PRS anyway.)
I've got one of those with an Invader in the bridge and it kills.
Instead of the PRS:
http://www.rondomusic.com/product1906.html
I just put a George Lynch Screamin' Demon into one of these last night, sounds awesome as well. I don't like floating tremolos much myself, so I tossed on two more springs, now it stays in place.
They've also got plenty of Les Paul copies in the $200 range. I'd own 4 of them if it was stringthrough and had the switch by the knobs.
vermillion_blood89
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Re: PRS Vs LTD
the V looks nice.... aaa... but EVERYTHING so cheap.... i mean ... im shocked!... thanks for the suggestion.. thats a nice low priced axe..
the V looks nice.... aaa... but EVERYTHING so cheap.... i mean ... im shocked!... thanks for the suggestion.. thats a nice low priced axe..
astrozombie
KatyPerryologist
Re: PRS Vs LTD
you know bro alot of the time... you get what you pay for. not always, but most of the time... just keep that in mind.
or, you could save up some more money. i have loads of guitars, and i think theyre all crappy. i should have kept my crappy axe and saved up for something Bad A$$.
you know bro alot of the time... you get what you pay for. not always, but most of the time... just keep that in mind.
or, you could save up some more money. i have loads of guitars, and i think theyre all crappy. i should have kept my crappy axe and saved up for something Bad A$$.
dominus
King Midas to Cheap Guitars
Re: PRS Vs LTD
I have tons of cheap guitars.. after figuring out what sucks about them, you replace what needs to be replaced (pickups, bridge, tuners, pots, nut, whatever), and make it yours. No need to pay $2000 for a guitar when an upgraded cheap one will work just as well. I like all of my guitars, and I don't think I have any that cost me more than $300 total. I've played tons of guitars from every manufacturer made in every country, and there's lemons and diamonds everywhere.
Not to mention, if anything happens to a cheap guitar, it's a lot easier to replace the whole thing.
I've had USA Strats that had sloppy fitting compared to a Chinese copy. (The pickups did sound better in the USA one, but that's an easy fix.) I've had USA made BC Rich guitars and ended up selling them and keeping the Indonesian made ones. Hell, after you replace all the parts you want, sell all the stuff you don't need on E-Bay and recoup the investment you made into the replacements.
On that Rhoads-ish V, the only thing I did was pull out the stock humbuckers and install an Invader in the bridge. (And covered the neck pickup cavity.) The nut and tuners and bridge were all just fine.
On the PRS-ish silver one, I'm going to replace the tuners as soon as I get some in, and swap the plastic knobs for some metal ones. Maybe I'll pull the bridge and powder coat it in black as I'm not a fan of chrome. Aside from that, there aren't any sharp frets, it plays comfortably, and with the Screamin' Demon, it sounds great.
Isn't that really all you need from a guitar?
I have tons of cheap guitars.. after figuring out what sucks about them, you replace what needs to be replaced (pickups, bridge, tuners, pots, nut, whatever), and make it yours. No need to pay $2000 for a guitar when an upgraded cheap one will work just as well. I like all of my guitars, and I don't think I have any that cost me more than $300 total. I've played tons of guitars from every manufacturer made in every country, and there's lemons and diamonds everywhere.
Not to mention, if anything happens to a cheap guitar, it's a lot easier to replace the whole thing.
I've had USA Strats that had sloppy fitting compared to a Chinese copy. (The pickups did sound better in the USA one, but that's an easy fix.) I've had USA made BC Rich guitars and ended up selling them and keeping the Indonesian made ones. Hell, after you replace all the parts you want, sell all the stuff you don't need on E-Bay and recoup the investment you made into the replacements.
On that Rhoads-ish V, the only thing I did was pull out the stock humbuckers and install an Invader in the bridge. (And covered the neck pickup cavity.) The nut and tuners and bridge were all just fine.
On the PRS-ish silver one, I'm going to replace the tuners as soon as I get some in, and swap the plastic knobs for some metal ones. Maybe I'll pull the bridge and powder coat it in black as I'm not a fan of chrome. Aside from that, there aren't any sharp frets, it plays comfortably, and with the Screamin' Demon, it sounds great.
Isn't that really all you need from a guitar?
astrozombie
KatyPerryologist
Re: PRS Vs LTD
valid point.
but tell me the PRS isnt the better guitar if he replaces the pickups?
valid point.
but tell me the PRS isnt the better guitar if he replaces the pickups?
dominus
King Midas to Cheap Guitars
Re: PRS Vs LTD
Better than the LTD? Absolutely. Better than the SX copy? I sold my PRS SE and I've still got that SX copy. The SX neck felt better to me, tonally the bodies had about the same amount of mahogany.. and even though the SX is a bolt on, it's a tenon-style joint, so if I glued it in, it'd be pretty close to the set-neck PRS SE. The SX bridge seems a little more comfortable to me too.
Too bad Rondo isn't bringing in the PS-900s anymore. That blows away the SE.
http://www.rondomusic.com/ps900amberq.html
I've got one in black cherry, and am kicking myself for selling the black and blue ones I had. I had a Duncan Custom in it and it nailed heavy death/thrash tones.
Better than the LTD? Absolutely. Better than the SX copy? I sold my PRS SE and I've still got that SX copy.
The SX neck felt better to me, tonally the bodies had about the same amount of mahogany.. and even though the SX is a bolt on, it's a tenon-style joint, so if I glued it in, it'd be pretty close to the set-neck PRS SE. The SX bridge seems a little more comfortable to me too.Too bad Rondo isn't bringing in the PS-900s anymore. That blows away the SE.
http://www.rondomusic.com/ps900amberq.html
I've got one in black cherry, and am kicking myself for selling the black and blue ones I had. I had a Duncan Custom in it and it nailed heavy death/thrash tones.
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Funkfingers
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Re: PRS Vs LTD
Marshall MG? Mangled Gonads? Avoid at all costs!
Little boxes. Little boxes.
And they're all made of ticky tacky
And they all SOUND just the same.
Received wisdom (probably from Aspen Pittman) has it that, if you want to know what your electric guitar really sounds like, plug it into a blackface Fender.
If you wanna rumble, move on to a Tweed Bassman or its British half brother, the Marshall JTM45.
If you wanna play dirty, get a Marshall Plexi or an old Orange.
If you wanna go stratospheric, get some ultra-high gain, master volume beast.
If you expect to get all of these tones from a single product, write a big cheque for something with Groove Tubes or Boogie written on the front.
What do all of these amplifiers have in common? Thermo-ionic valve (tube) circuitry and loudspeaker enclosures assembled from actual wood rather than compressed wood fibre pulp.
Obviously, beginners have got to start somewhere but, in my opinion, all that a Marshall MG amplifier is going to instill in anyone is the notion that a nasty zizzy sound can pass for music. These guys might as well listen to an abrasive wheel being used in a metalwork shop.
In coclusion, I cannot help thinking that Marshall is doing itself a disservice by manufacturing "budget/beginner" amps under its own name.
Marshall MG? Mangled Gonads? Avoid at all costs!
Little boxes. Little boxes.
And they're all made of ticky tacky
And they all SOUND just the same.
Received wisdom (probably from Aspen Pittman) has it that, if you want to know what your electric guitar really sounds like, plug it into a blackface Fender.
If you wanna rumble, move on to a Tweed Bassman or its British half brother, the Marshall JTM45.
If you wanna play dirty, get a Marshall Plexi or an old Orange.
If you wanna go stratospheric, get some ultra-high gain, master volume beast.
If you expect to get all of these tones from a single product, write a big cheque for something with Groove Tubes or Boogie written on the front.
What do all of these amplifiers have in common? Thermo-ionic valve (tube) circuitry and loudspeaker enclosures assembled from actual wood rather than compressed wood fibre pulp.
Obviously, beginners have got to start somewhere but, in my opinion, all that a Marshall MG amplifier is going to instill in anyone is the notion that a nasty zizzy sound can pass for music. These guys might as well listen to an abrasive wheel being used in a metalwork shop.
In coclusion, I cannot help thinking that Marshall is doing itself a disservice by manufacturing "budget/beginner" amps under its own name.
J
Jessie Sammler
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Re: PRS Vs LTD
I've done the treatment with a lot of cheaper guitars, and I also own a few $2,000 guitars. Even with all the upgrades, there are things the cheaper ones can't do and will never be able to do. I've never played guitars that play so effortlessly and have such bang-on intonation as my JEMs. I've never played anything that has the crunch or sustain of my USA Jackson hardtail.
When it comes to the finer points, sometimes there is a need to pay $2,000 for a guitar.
I've done the treatment with a lot of cheaper guitars, and I also own a few $2,000 guitars. Even with all the upgrades, there are things the cheaper ones can't do and will never be able to do. I've never played guitars that play so effortlessly and have such bang-on intonation as my JEMs. I've never played anything that has the crunch or sustain of my USA Jackson hardtail.
When it comes to the finer points, sometimes there is a need to pay $2,000 for a guitar.
vermillion_blood89
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Re: PRS Vs LTD
guys.. wats with the rondo bussniess?? i mean how can they sell guitars SO CHEAPLY??
this guitar http://www.rondomusic.com/product2004.html is a copy of the LTD V200. this costs 150$ and the ltd costs 500$...
can anyone explain me the VAST difference in the prices? is the answer gonna be tone/quality of instrument?
guys.. wats with the rondo bussniess?? i mean how can they sell guitars SO CHEAPLY??
this guitar http://www.rondomusic.com/product2004.html is a copy of the LTD V200. this costs 150$ and the ltd costs 500$...
can anyone explain me the VAST difference in the prices? is the answer gonna be tone/quality of instrument?
astrozombie
KatyPerryologist
vermillion_blood89
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Re: PRS Vs LTD
may b u hate it coz its a low end amp... i think every brand has low end amps...
may b u hate it coz its a low end amp... i think every brand has low end amps...
J
Jessie Sammler
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The specs seem to be there, but that doesn't mean it's as good as an LTD v200. It's a $150 copy of a $500 copy of a $2,000 guitar. I don't know about you, but I'm done buying guitars that cost what a mid-range distortion pedal goes for.
The specs seem to be there, but that doesn't mean it's as good as an LTD v200. It's a $150 copy of a $500 copy of a $2,000 guitar. I don't know about you, but I'm done buying guitars that cost what a mid-range distortion pedal goes for.
J
Jessie Sammler
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No, we hate it because it sucks. This coming from someone who owns and likes a Behringer V-Tone as a practice amp.
No, we hate it because it sucks. This coming from someone who owns and likes a Behringer V-Tone as a practice amp.
astrozombie
KatyPerryologist
Re: PRS Vs LTD
BEHRINGER V TONES ARE LEGENDARY
some of the best "affordable" amps ive ever played though!!!
and yeah, im done with crappy guitars.
dont feel bad bro, in the future youre going to be in our position.
nobody starts off with cool gear.
i started with an epi les paul special and a peavy amp i had no idea how to operate.
BEHRINGER V TONES ARE LEGENDARY
some of the best "affordable" amps ive ever played though!!!
and yeah, im done with crappy guitars.
dont feel bad bro, in the future youre going to be in our position.
nobody starts off with cool gear.
i started with an epi les paul special and a peavy amp i had no idea how to operate.
J
Jessie Sammler
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I didn't mean to be so harsh about the MG series. If you like the way they sound, don't let some silly twat on the internet tell you not to get it. :crazy:
I didn't mean to be so harsh about the MG series. If you like the way they sound, don't let some silly twat on the internet tell you not to get it. :crazy:
Empty Pockets
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To answer the original question:
None of us know what the best guitar for you is. You have to go play a bunch of them and tell us...so go play a bunch of them.
Secondly....it doesn't matter what guitar you're using if you plug into a Marshall MG100...it's gonna sound like garbage.
Thirdily...the one thing that you can't upgrade on cheap guitars is actual wood quality. You can sometimes get lucky and find a cheap guitar made with decent wood but it's not the same as a nice high-end instrument where the pieces used for the neck and body were specifically picked-out to compliment eachother then are assembled with precision.
Just makin sure nobody's gonna leave this thread thinkin a hot-rodded LTD is ever gonna be the same as something that costs more than $2000.
The cool thing is, you don't have to spend Musician's Friend prices for everything. You can buy used and find awesome deals and get decent gear for not a lot of money.
When I was 16 i was using a USA Fender Strat I paid $420 for into a vintage 68 Fender Bassman head I paid $450 for. You just gotta know where to look man.
To answer the original question:
None of us know what the best guitar for you is. You have to go play a bunch of them and tell us...so go play a bunch of them.
Secondly....it doesn't matter what guitar you're using if you plug into a Marshall MG100...it's gonna sound like garbage.
Thirdily...the one thing that you can't upgrade on cheap guitars is actual wood quality. You can sometimes get lucky and find a cheap guitar made with decent wood but it's not the same as a nice high-end instrument where the pieces used for the neck and body were specifically picked-out to compliment eachother then are assembled with precision.
Just makin sure nobody's gonna leave this thread thinkin a hot-rodded LTD is ever gonna be the same as something that costs more than $2000.
The cool thing is, you don't have to spend Musician's Friend prices for everything. You can buy used and find awesome deals and get decent gear for not a lot of money.
When I was 16 i was using a USA Fender Strat I paid $420 for into a vintage 68 Fender Bassman head I paid $450 for. You just gotta know where to look man.
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