Push Pull Wiring

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Re: Push Pull Wiring

A push/pull is two really two switches in one. You only need one half, and thats the three terminals in a row. If you look at the Duncan diagrams, its left and right sides. Having said that, you always connect the red/white combo to the middle of the three terminals. Then, if you want:

Split when pulled, connect to the terminal closest to the knob/pot.
Split when pushed, connect to the terminal farthest from the knob/pot.

Stud coil, use the green wire. (or ground)
Screw coil, use black.

But always, red/white to the center lug.
 
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"Split when pulled, connect to the terminal closest to the knob/pot.
Split when pushed, connect to the terminal farthest from the knob/pot."

Connect what to the terminal?

And what do you mean by stud coil and screw coil?
 
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He means to connect the wire for the appropriate coil to the terminal. Stud coil is simply the half of the humbucker with the 6 studs protruding, whereas the screw coil is the half with the adjustable screw heads protruding. So decide which one you want to split to, and connect the appropriate wire as explained.

So if you wanted to split the bucker to the screw coil when pulled, wire the red/white to the center lug in whichever row you chose, and connect the black wire to the terminal closest to the pot/knob in that row.

|--|
O @ <-- black
O @ <-- red/white
O O

(I know, bad ascii art... but it should show what I mean. Obviously, you could use the row on the left, if you wanted - whichever you prefer. The "@" is a soldered terminal)
 
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So then what needs to be connected to ground, as seen in SD Diagram? In that diagram, the only wires connected to the DPDT swicth are the red and the white ones. How come the black or green one isn't wired to it, as in your diagram?
 
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Firstly, with SD pickups, black is hot. So you really shouldn't run that to ground. For the purpose of this, the green and bare wires go to ground.

Ground wires are generally soldered to the back of a pot. All grounds have to connect to the ground terminal on the output jack - so generally, they're all soldered to the back of a pot, along with a wire going to said jack ground terminal. This is done mostly as a matter of convenience - with all the wires than need to be grounded, it'd be hard/impossible to connect them all to one terminal. So a pot is used as a sort of temporary jump.
 
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Yeah, I'm clear on that, but in your diagram below, you have the red and white wires and the black wire hooked up to the switch, but in the SD Diagram, the only wires hooked up are the red and white ones and then one going to ground. Is the black wire on YOUR diagram going to ground? Or is it the black wire from the pickup? That's what I'm unclear about.

Your Diagram

|--|
O @ <-- black
O @ <-- red/white
O O

vs.

SD Diagram
|--|
O O
O @ <-- red/white
O @ <-- wire to ground

So basically, which wires from the actual pickup go to the switch?

Thanks for the help.
 
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Its the green wire that goes to the other lug of the switch. Since green is grounded, they show the ground symbol instead. I sorta wish they wouldn't do that. It would help people to understand that its the green wire, and that would help to clarify that they have a choice of green or black, depending on which coil they want active.
 
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So does the bare wire go to the switch along with the green as well? Or does it just go to a normal ground spot?
 
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Bare is always ground. You have a choice of using black or green for ground depending on the phase you desire, or to match with other brand pups.
 
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Almost. There should be a wire jumping from the terminal the green is connected to onto ground, in addition to what you have there.
 
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Oh, yeah I forgot that.

But wait, my friend said that his DPDT is wired with only the red and white wires going to it, and the green is soldered directly to ground, as opposed to the switch. So it's basically like this :eek13: -

|--|
O @
O @ <-- red/white
O O
 
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Well, according to that description (and assuming the black is going to the switch) then his one wouldn't actually be able to split it... it would just be a permanent in-series bucker, regardless of any push-pulling.
 
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That's what I thought. Oh well.

BTW Thanks, SpiderVenom and ArtieToo, I really appreciate the help!
 
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No problem, glad to be of help. Just two notes: that diagram you gave (once you add a wire from ground to the terminal connected to green) will split the bucker when pulled up. Use the bottom terminal for the reverse effect.

Also, as Artie said, you could swap the green and black wires around to split to the other coil.

Good luck!
 
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Yeah, that's what I want to do, as it will be in normal humbucking mode most of the time, so I won't have as much of a chance to accidentally push it down.
 
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