Push-push bypass mod to add to on-off-on coil split mod

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I have an HSS strat that I added an on-off-on toggle to the P-rail humbucker to get 1) Slug, 2) Full humbucker, 3) Rail, and it works great.

My final mod on this project is to hopefully add a bypass (I think it's called a blower switch? or something like that) where when I push the button, it takes the humbucker straight to the output jack.

My 5 position switch is a 5 way super switch discrete (which looks like a hybrid regular 5 way and super switch). The coil split was simple as it came before the super switch. I am not sure where to put the bypass push-push switch, or if the wiring changes from what I already know (Elite Strat wiring).

I'm attaching 2 pix of current wiring (it's basically an Elite strat with the push-push bypass replaced with the on-off-on, but having the bypass may be useful). 1st image is full wiring of my current setup. 2nd pic zooms in on the on-off-on. The humbucker wires on the left of the diagram are already SD color coded. (the DPDT could've just been an SPDT, but I didn't have one of those, and couldn't find one at local store).

Any help on how to do this would be helpful . . . I am hoping it is as simple as just plopping it back in and connecting it to the on-off-on somewhere.


Thanks for any help on this. No prob if it's just not possible though.

Jon

 

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Re: Push-push bypass mod to add to on-off-on coil split mod

I found this diagram: https://www.seymourduncan.com/blog/tag/blower-switch
Since I will be integrating this with the on-off-on coil splitter, would this wiring setup work for a blower switch (passing lane)?



What I am thinking is take the wire that goes from splitter to 5 way and route it instead to the lug for the hot wire from humbucker; then send the lug above that to the 5 way; the lug next to that to the S-1 wiper lug (center); then the lug below that one to output jack.

Trouble I see here is I'll have 2 wires on the S-1 wiper lug (one coming in from the blower switch, the other going to the output jack; which also means I'd have 2 wires going to output jack (from S-1 wiper, and from blower switch), unless the blower switch wouldn't need to go to output since it would be sent to 5 way, then to S-1, then to output.
CORRECTION TO IMAGE: The wires I think I'd get rid of would be teh bottom right of blower to S-1, and the bottom middle of blower to output since the 5 way would be sent to S-1, then S-1 would send to output via wiper lug

I think I'm in the ballpark, but from here I don't know what is right or wrong.

Ideas?
Thanks!
Jon

 

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Re: Push-push bypass mod to add to on-off-on coil split mod

I changed the diagram a bit for the blower switch (to make it as it is wired on actual Elite Strat). In the diagram below, I REMOVED the wire from blower to S-1 (lower-left lug of blower to wiper of S-1) since that was giving me some funky sounds.

Here's what is now confusing: With the blower switch engaged (button in down position), it seems to be adding the humbucker to whatever pickups would normally be selected based on the Elite Strat wiring . . .AND it follows the 3-way coil split. While this is interesting, it's now quite what it is supposed to do. I may return it to this current setup, but I'd like to understand what I need to change in order to get a true blower switch where when the button is in down position, I simply get the humbucker (that still follows the coil split toggle selection). I left out the other wiring of the Elite since it looked like a tangled mess when I attempted to draw it, but everything follows the diagram in previous post with the changes shown on this post's diagram (blower added).



Any idea what I need to change?

Thanks
Jon.

 

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Re: Push-push bypass mod to add to on-off-on coil split mod

Oh, I left out a jumper on the diagram: On the Blower switch, there should be a jumper from the uppper center lug to the lower right lug.

 

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Re: Push-push bypass mod to add to on-off-on coil split mod

Oh, I left out a jumper on the diagram: On the Blower switch, there should be a jumper from the uppper center lug to the lower right lug.

Alrighty, working very hard to figure this out on my own . . . I will be trying this setup once I get home. I blacked out the blower wiring before and changed it up via computer (the new wiring attempt is obvious).

I think this will have more luck. . .here's my logic: The upper 3 lugs are for regular setup where middle lug is p-rail from coil split switch, and left lug sends to super switch. Lower 3 lugs are for blower engaged where center lug is still p-rail from coil split (thus the jumper) and the right lug sends that direct to output jack.



Any feedback on if this should work appreciated.

Jon

 

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Re: Push-push bypass mod to add to on-off-on coil split mod

Well, that didn't work either. But after some experimenting, this did work: I went back to the previous diagram but removed the wire from S-1 to output jack.

Here's the working diagram (all wiring not shown is the same as Elite Strat HSS wiring diagram with exception of removing wire from S-1 wiper (middle lug) to output jack.



Sorry it's sloppy -- new at trying to draw this stuff.

I've got one issue that I think is unrelated where position 2 is a bit too quiet. I'll get back if it is related to this wiring.

Jon