Quarter Pound lead or Vintage Broadcaster ?

[jmoore44]

I have a Vintage 54 in the neck which sounds great. The pair for that in the bridge is the Vintage 54 or the the Vintage Broadcaster . Between those two I would go with the broadcaster but would the Quarter Pound bridge PUP work well with the 54' in the neck ?


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[marcello252]

Re: Quarter Pound lead or Vintage Broadcaster ?

Yes. Still I prefer the bradcaster out of the 3

 

[jeremy]

Re: Quarter Pound lead or Vintage Broadcaster ?

the qp and broadcaster are pretty drastically different pups. the qp is much fatter, louder and darker

 

[Luke Duke]

Re: Quarter Pound lead or Vintage Broadcaster ?

the qp and broadcaster are pretty drastically different pups. the qp is much fatter, louder and darker

I've had both in the same guitar. The QP is the BEST rhythm p'up you will ever find. Unfortunately I was never able to get a great lead tone out of it. I've wondered if you used a tapped version in tapped mode if it would be perfect, Lina like the old Schecter p'ups Blackmore used.

Luke

 

[AlexR]

Re: Quarter Pound lead or Vintage Broadcaster ?

Its a pretty odd choice to be tossing up either a low output vintage Tele with a 'to hell on a motorcycle' fire breathing beast that the QP is.

It makes me think you've actually not got even the basic tonal questions for this guitar finalised.

 

[jeremy]

Re: Quarter Pound lead or Vintage Broadcaster ?

the qp is a beast but the high end isnt all that aggressive compared to a more vintage style pup

 

[jmoore44]

Re: Quarter Pound lead or Vintage Broadcaster ?

Its a pretty odd choice to be tossing up either a low output vintage Tele with a 'to hell on a motorcycle' fire breathing beast that the QP is.

It makes me think you've actually not got even the basic tonal questions for this guitar finalised.

Well I'm not really looking for a "to hell on a motorcycle" type PUP as you described it. All the research I've done doesn't seem like the QP is what you described . You make it sound like a pickup for metal heads or something. I understand it's a much higher output but.....
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Im trying to play some rock nothing crazy. I want a little twang though.


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[Mincer]

Re: Quarter Pound lead or Vintage Broadcaster ?

The QP is a great pickup, but doesn't sound like a Tele pickup to me. If you want the power but more clarity, there are other options for a Hot Tele pickup.

 

[AlexR]

Re: Quarter Pound lead or Vintage Broadcaster ?

Well I'm not really looking for a "to hell on a motorcycle" type PUP as you described it. All the research I've done doesn't seem like the QP is what you described . You make it sound like a pickup for metal heads or something. I understand it's a much higher output but.....
https://youtu.be/
Im trying to play some rock nothing crazy. I want a little twang though.


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Well according to duncan specs, the QP is 17k.......of presumably 44 gauge wire. That puts it as having more than both the JB and the Distortion. Both of which are metal pickups.
Now obviously k doesn't equate to output, and a singlecoil with pole mags will have more tonal differences than similarities with humbuckers of the same wire and k rating. But I wouldn't want to be playing rock with a QP myself.....not enough nuance for mine.

 

[jeremy]

Re: Quarter Pound lead or Vintage Broadcaster ?

i think the qp is a great rock rhythm pup. can be a great rock lead pup too with the right rig

 

[Southbound Suarez]

Re: Quarter Pound lead or Vintage Broadcaster ?

I have the 54' bridge and matching neck single coils in a Fender Japan Nocaster which used to be more than acceptable until I purchased a set of Don Mare ZepOTone 2 Live Version single coil set making the SD 54' single coil set obsolete, at least in this guitar which could be due to the body being Agathis, Poplar, Basswood, Sen (japanese ash). For a bridge tele pickup like the quarter pounder but much better in my opinion, I would recommend David Plummer aka Zhangbucker and his Paul Bunyan Tele Bridge pup. Buy one and you'll thank me later for it.

 

[eclecticsynergy]

Re: Quarter Pound lead or Vintage Broadcaster ?

I would recommend David Plummer aka Zhangbucker and his Paul Bunyan Tele Bridge pup. Buy one and you'll thank me later for it.

I have a Paul Bunyan and it's a great pickup. Snappy enough for spanky rhythm and strong enough to really sing playing leads. Still has some Tele character, just with more muscle and push. Doesn't feel overwound to me- not super compressed, not dark though it has warmth. Pretty responsive & dynamic actually. And though twang isn't its strong point, it can be had if you need it. This one is described as a ten-foot-tall-Tele and I think the name fits. David makes some darn good pickups. I think you wouldn't be sorry if you chose one.

I also have a QP and the thing's a sweet beast. Big and wild with a very rich lead voice. Still shows its singlecoil teeth on the pick attack when you dig in & play hard. It will clean up when you roll back the volume knob but it stays pretty fat and I wouldn't describe it as Tele-like in the classic sense. Quite different from the Paul Bunyan IMO. This one is more of a rocker. Not for Tele traditionalists, yet a great tone in its own right and definitely NOT just for metalheads. It's loud, though- might overpower a vintage output neck. Then again...

 

[Southbound Suarez]

Re: Quarter Pound lead or Vintage Broadcaster ?

In my first custom built strat I went from SD Hot Strat Stack pups to SD Quarter Pound Strat (non-staggered) pups, and I had taps halfway through each single coil. They were killer pups because the half coil taps more closely approximated the DCR of a vintage single coil. This is where I can appreciate David aka Zhangbucker's "splat" idea when splitting humbucker coils and using all of one coil and part of another for a more accurate representation of a true single coil (unless one is using a 12K or > DCR humbucker).

 

[AlexR]

Re: Quarter Pound lead or Vintage Broadcaster ?

David certainly has 2 really good things going for the 'slightly hot' pickup side.....

His hot pickups never sound congested like practically every other one I've tried. So you get many of the vintage artifacts that you want, without the thinness that most don't
He can add in taps to suit various wants, and really knows where his winds get to vintage levels if thats what you want.

 

[marcello252]

Re: Quarter Pound lead or Vintage Broadcaster ?

I had a tapped bridge QP in my strat for a while, I was looking for a more P90 sound at that time, nice lead tone but there was strange high peak with my setup I've never really completely liked, tapped the sound became thin and uninspiring, not as loud as a normal single coil (impedance could be the same but I think the different wire gauge makes it quiter) at least to my ears.

 

[Southbound Suarez]

Re: Quarter Pound lead or Vintage Broadcaster ?

I had a tapped bridge QP in my strat for a while, I was looking for a more P90 sound at that time, nice lead tone but there was strange high peak with my setup I've never really completely liked, tapped the sound became thin and uninspiring, not as loud as a normal single coil (impedance could be the same but I think the different wire gauge makes it quiter) at least to my ears.

Using a hypothetical 8K Ohm humbucker with equally matched coils of say 4K Ohms per coil, then naturally the split coil will not sound anything like a strat single coil averaging 6K Ohms or greater. This is why David Plummer aka Zhangbucker offers the "splat" feature that taps all of one coil and part of another to closer replicate that Fender single coil sound. It's not a new idea but, it surely works.