Kamanda~SD
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Basically my bands back better then before, our first gig "back" is in february (at an anual battle of the bands) and we plan on recording in march/ april. I'll be buying everything exept tom and bass dum mics which the drummer will handle (I will also be recording it all as well). As you may remember from before I was looking for a mixer, which I just got a few days ago.
Behringer Xenyx 2242FX
http://www.behringer.com/2442FX/index.cfm?lang=ENG
The main reason being I needed 8 mic inputs, Direct outs were a huge lift as well...all for $489.00 canadian with tax. I'm also using it for vocals at band practice once my singer gets a active PA speaker in the next few weeks. I am running this into my PC using adobe audition.Anyways...theres some backround, heres my problem.
Everything will be multitracked so I am going to run an 8 mic drum setup (the main reason for this is because of the drums). I want to be able to seperate all the drum tracks for better mixing and EQ once in the program. Without getting into all the possible ways I thought of doing this (including grouping the toms to one track and the overheads to one track and doing the panning on the mixer, which wont work unless I get more then I'm suggesting now), I'm going to express my idea and tell me if you think it's going to work! Basically I'm going to take advantage of a hard left/ right pan in stereo to create 8 mono...
Ok, at first I looked at the M-Audi Delta 44 (http://www.m-audio.ca/products/en_ca/Delta44-main.html), now I could get exactly what I want (using the mixer DI's) using 2 of these...but quite frankly I don't have another $500 to throw away on sound cards. I also found out -from m-audio- that it's inserts are mono...so I couldn't even cheat the system. Enter adaptors and the beauty of the hard left/ right pans of RCA connectors...
I have a Y cable which brings RCA cables (the red and white ones used in most sudio systems for thos who don't know) to a stereo 1/8" jack. Through a simple test using a tape recorder (with L and R mic inputs and hooking up the rca outputs to my y cable then into adobe audition) I found I could take the stereo signal in adobe audition and slplit it (copy the left pan to a whole new stereo feild and same with the right) therefore giving me 2 tracks from the one track! So basically my new sound card idea came...
The M-audio Delta1010LT (http://www.m-audio.ca/products/en_ca/Delta1010LT-main.html)
So heres my quick routing idea (I know, your thinking "all that typing and hes just telling me now!...well yes ) Routing would go as follows:
mics> mixer> a cable would go from the DI into an adaptor such as this (http://www.musiciansfriend.com/prod...ies-14-Male-to-RCA-Female-Adapter?sku=339508), then an rca cable would connect that to the soundcard. This way each DI would be put into a hard left or hard right of one of the deltas rca inputs, then once it gets to adobe audition I could split each signal, therefore creating my 8 tracks which I want...then copy into its own stereo field and EQ, pan, and volumize to my hearts content! I hope this all made sense!!
So would this work or am I off my rocker?
I also noticed this m-audio card (http://www.m-audio.ca/products/en_ca/Audiophile192-main.html) which claims 4/4 in/out which would work (as 1 consists of the left/right rca inputs) but yet it shows 3 rca's and 1 midi...would it be possible for that card to come with the 4 rca (replacing the midi cable with another rca?) it would still be 4 which is all I really need...either way the delta1010 isnt much more then my origional plan of the 44 so its no big deal.
I know thats a long ass post and I apologize, I tried to conver everythign so there would be less questions to answer and I hope it makes sense and will work! Thanks ALOT for your patience and answers.
-mat
Behringer Xenyx 2242FX
http://www.behringer.com/2442FX/index.cfm?lang=ENG
The main reason being I needed 8 mic inputs, Direct outs were a huge lift as well...all for $489.00 canadian with tax. I'm also using it for vocals at band practice once my singer gets a active PA speaker in the next few weeks. I am running this into my PC using adobe audition.Anyways...theres some backround, heres my problem.
Everything will be multitracked so I am going to run an 8 mic drum setup (the main reason for this is because of the drums). I want to be able to seperate all the drum tracks for better mixing and EQ once in the program. Without getting into all the possible ways I thought of doing this (including grouping the toms to one track and the overheads to one track and doing the panning on the mixer, which wont work unless I get more then I'm suggesting now), I'm going to express my idea and tell me if you think it's going to work! Basically I'm going to take advantage of a hard left/ right pan in stereo to create 8 mono...
Ok, at first I looked at the M-Audi Delta 44 (http://www.m-audio.ca/products/en_ca/Delta44-main.html), now I could get exactly what I want (using the mixer DI's) using 2 of these...but quite frankly I don't have another $500 to throw away on sound cards. I also found out -from m-audio- that it's inserts are mono...so I couldn't even cheat the system. Enter adaptors and the beauty of the hard left/ right pans of RCA connectors...
I have a Y cable which brings RCA cables (the red and white ones used in most sudio systems for thos who don't know) to a stereo 1/8" jack. Through a simple test using a tape recorder (with L and R mic inputs and hooking up the rca outputs to my y cable then into adobe audition) I found I could take the stereo signal in adobe audition and slplit it (copy the left pan to a whole new stereo feild and same with the right) therefore giving me 2 tracks from the one track! So basically my new sound card idea came...
The M-audio Delta1010LT (http://www.m-audio.ca/products/en_ca/Delta1010LT-main.html)
So heres my quick routing idea (I know, your thinking "all that typing and hes just telling me now!...well yes ) Routing would go as follows:
mics> mixer> a cable would go from the DI into an adaptor such as this (http://www.musiciansfriend.com/prod...ies-14-Male-to-RCA-Female-Adapter?sku=339508), then an rca cable would connect that to the soundcard. This way each DI would be put into a hard left or hard right of one of the deltas rca inputs, then once it gets to adobe audition I could split each signal, therefore creating my 8 tracks which I want...then copy into its own stereo field and EQ, pan, and volumize to my hearts content! I hope this all made sense!!
So would this work or am I off my rocker?
I also noticed this m-audio card (http://www.m-audio.ca/products/en_ca/Audiophile192-main.html) which claims 4/4 in/out which would work (as 1 consists of the left/right rca inputs) but yet it shows 3 rca's and 1 midi...would it be possible for that card to come with the 4 rca (replacing the midi cable with another rca?) it would still be 4 which is all I really need...either way the delta1010 isnt much more then my origional plan of the 44 so its no big deal.
I know thats a long ass post and I apologize, I tried to conver everythign so there would be less questions to answer and I hope it makes sense and will work! Thanks ALOT for your patience and answers.
-mat
