Restoring a pickup that was previously direct-mounted.

Rich_S

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I recently bought a TB59 that was drilled out for direct-mounting. (I blame you, Mr. Van Halen.) This isn't the first time I've done this. Cheap bastard that I am, I'm willing to save a few bucks on a pickup with no threads in its mounting holes. This time around, I remembered to take pictures. So, here for your education and/or entertainment, is my method for restoring drilled-out humbucker mounting tabs.

Here's what you need: a couple of brass hex nuts, an extra-long machine screw, and a normal pickup-mounting spring. I used 4-40 nuts and screw, which are one size larger than normal pickup hardware. It's not original-spec, but it works and that's okay with me. 4-40 hardware is good because it's available at your local ACE Hardware or big-box home center. "Normal" 3-48 hardware is a bit harder to come by. The nuts are brass because it's easy to solder. The machine screw is stainless, because solder won't stick to it.

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The first step is to clean off the pickup mounting tabs and the nuts. I used a small jeweler's file to rough up the surfaces and clean off any oxidation. Next, put the screw through the pickup's drilled-out hole. The long screw makes it easy to thread the nut on without shooting the spring across the room or dropping the nut (it will invariably roll all the way under the workbench).

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Tighten the screw down so that the spring tension clamps the nut to the mounting tab, holding it firmly in place. Then heat the tab and nut up with a soldering iron, and run a bead of solder around all six sides of the nut. I use a 25-watt Weller iron with a wide chisel tip to give plenty of heat transfer.

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When the solder cools, clean the joint with a wire brush and then remove the screw. The solder doesn't stick to the stainless, so it will screw right out. Note that the solder joint isn't subjected to the tension of holding the pickup in its mounting ring, since the nut is on the bottom of the tab. The solder's job is simply to keep the nut from falling off, and to keep it from rotating while the mounting screw is adjusted.

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All finished, and ready to mount in the bridge my goldtop Schecter PT partscaster. Special thanks to IndySG for the bargain-priced TB59.
 
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This lasts? Plumbing solder or regular electronics stuff?
 
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This lasts? Plumbing solder or regular electronics stuff?

Sure it lasts. I just use my regular amp-and-pedal-building electronics solder and wire brush the flux off at the end.

Did you disinfect that thing first?

Ha. Yeah, it's pretty nasty, but it was cheap. I actually delayed the project and ordered a couple of these to cover up the nasty:

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I'm going to re-tape the coils, too.
 
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Please don't mind my asking this on this thread but what is the deal with these direct mount pickups anyway???

I'm now in the consideration phase of getting me another Jackson. But most of the new Jacksons, at least most of those that I'm interested in, including the USA Select Series and the Pro Series, all have these direct mount pickups. And I don't like them. But I've no good reason for saying that (other than the fact that I have, and have always had, ring mounted pickups in my Charvels and Jacksons).

I mean: are there benefits or drawbacks or what (to direct mount pickups)???
 
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Re: Restoring a pickup that was previously direct-mounted.

Please don't mind my asking this on this thread but what is the deal with these direct mount pickups anyway???

I'm now in the consideration phase of getting me another Jackson. But most of the new Jacksons, at least most of those that I'm interested in, including the USA Select Series and the Pro Series, all have these direct mount pickups. And I don't like them. But I've no good reason for saying that (other than the fact that I have, and have always had, ring mounted pickups in my Charvels and Jacksons).

I mean: are the benefits or drawbacks or what (to direct mount pickups)???

If it's floored and stock... your manufacturer has supposedly taken care of height adjustment for you?

If it's like a bass pickup sitting on some squishy pad? Lol who knows
 
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Won't last. It's solder ffs. Epoxy should do the job.

The easier way out is forcing slightly larger screw through the plate, reaming new,larger holes. I did that to my P Rails, worked like a charm (after I had sold them the buyer contacted me for the proper screws but that's his problem, not mine).
 
Re: Restoring a pickup that was previously direct-mounted.

I recently bought a TB59 that was drilled out for direct-mounting. (I blame you, Mr. Van Halen.) This isn't the first time I've done this. Cheap bastard that I am, I'm willing to save a few bucks on a pickup with no threads in its mounting holes. This time around, I remembered to take pictures. So, here for your education and/or entertainment, is my method for restoring drilled-out humbucker mounting tabs.

Here's what you need: a couple of brass hex nuts, an extra-long machine screw, and a normal pickup-mounting spring. I used 4-40 nuts and screw, which are one size larger than normal pickup hardware. It's not original-spec, but it works and that's okay with me. 4-40 hardware is good because it's available at your local ACE Hardware or big-box home center. "Normal" 3-48 hardware is a bit harder to come by. The nuts are brass because it's easy to solder. The machine screw is stainless, because solder won't stick to it.

2i1lt7x.jpg



The first step is to clean off the pickup mounting tabs and the nuts. I used a small jeweler's file to rough up the surfaces and clean off any oxidation. Next, put the screw through the pickup's drilled-out hole. The long screw makes it easy to thread the nut on without shooting the spring across the room or dropping the nut (it will invariably roll all the way under the workbench).

9cdTOEf.jpg



Tighten the screw down so that the spring tension clamps the nut to the mounting tab, holding it firmly in place. Then heat the tab and nut up with a soldering iron, and run a bead of solder around all six sides of the nut. I use a 25-watt Weller iron with a wide chisel tip to give plenty of heat transfer.

j4ct0gc.jpg



When the solder cools, clean the joint with a wire brush and then remove the screw. The solder doesn't stick to the stainless, so it will screw right out. Note that the solder joint isn't subjected to the tension of holding the pickup in its mounting ring, since the nut is on the bottom of the tab. The solder's job is simply to keep the nut from falling off, and to keep it from rotating while the mounting screw is adjusted.

kKQpzZn.jpg



All finished, and ready to mount in the bridge my goldtop Schecter PT partscaster. Special thanks to IndySG for the bargain-priced TB59.
Just buy a new baseplate. It's less work and less problems down the road.
 
Re: Restoring a pickup that was previously direct-mounted.

Epoxy would work but it’s hard to keep the whole thing lined up while the epoxy cures. There’s also the concern of accidentally glueing the screw into the nut. Soldering is done a cooled in seconds, and the bond is plenty strong.

I thought about a new baseplate, but I’m not sure the coils would stand being transplanted. The pickup is in pretty rough shape.

Did I mention it was cheap?
 
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Re: Restoring a pickup that was previously direct-mounted.

Please don't mind my asking this on this thread but what is the deal with these direct mount pickups anyway???

I'm now in the consideration phase of getting me another Jackson. But most of the new Jacksons, at least most of those that I'm interested in, including the USA Select Series and the Pro Series, all have these direct mount pickups. And I don't like them. But I've no good reason for saying that (other than the fact that I have, and have always had, ring mounted pickups in my Charvels and Jacksons).

I mean: are there benefits or drawbacks or what (to direct mount pickups)???

Supposedly direct mount sounds better because the pickup is in direct contact with the wood. I don't like the look and pickup rings have worked good for how many recordings?


OP,

Thanks. I have a few pickups to fix. I'm going to try to find 3-48 hardware.
 
Re: Restoring a pickup that was previously direct-mounted.

Of course it will last. Dried chewing gum could handle the spring tension.

I don’t even bother with a nut anymore. I just fill the hole with solder and redrill/tap. I haven’t had one fail yet, but if I do, I will just resolder.
 
Re: Restoring a pickup that was previously direct-mounted.

Supposedly direct mount sounds better because the pickup is in direct contact with the wood. I don't like the look and pickup rings have worked good for how many recordings?
Thanks for that DonP.

I agree 100% with the latter part of your statement above.

And if you're right on the first part: kinda ironic then that we've spent how many years actually ensuring that pickups are ISOLATED from the body!!! LOL!!!
 
Re: Restoring a pickup that was previously direct-mounted.

Of course it will last. Dried chewing gum could handle the spring tension.

I don’t even bother with a nut anymore. I just fill the hole with solder and redrill/tap. I haven’t had one fail yet, but if I do, I will just resolder.

Solder blob holds up to drilling and tapping? For real?

Never woulda guessed
 
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I'd use methylacrylate, not epoxy. That stuff is tough as nails and a lot easier to work with..

Direct mounting does add a bit more balls to the tone. Just a touch. I just think it's easier to install than with a ring.
 
Re: Restoring a pickup that was previously direct-mounted.

Direct mounting does add a bit more balls to the tone. Just a touch. I just think it's easier to install than with a ring.
Once again forgive my ignorance and questions here but are the pickups the same i.e. just the way they are that mounted differs???

In other words: could one just put an Invader into one of the new Jackson Soloists (those which may have direct mount pickups)???
 
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Once again forgive my ignorance and questions here but are the pickups the same i.e. just the way they are that mounted differs???

In other words: could one just put an Invader into one of the new Jackson Soloists (those which may have direct mount pickups)???

NO idea about that last part. I don't know how Jackson makes their guitars, I'd have to see one. I DO know that at Aristides, where I work, we use a propietry pickup mounting system made in such a way that every other pickup will fit, direct mounted, as long as you don't use a long leg pickup.

OH and this pickup wouldn't be suited for a baseplate swap because I believe it to be a trembucker. (rounded ends give it away)
 
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Yea it would have to swapped with another tb base.

Why wouldnt you tack the nut in place with solder and use epoxy around the rest? Seems like a good compromise.
A dab of wax or KY on the height screws would keep things from sticking if you’re worried about epoxy seeping into the threads.
 
Re: Restoring a pickup that was previously direct-mounted.

Once again forgive my ignorance and questions here but are the pickups the same i.e. just the way they are that mounted differs???

In other words: could one just put an Invader into one of the new Jackson Soloists (those which may have direct mount pickups)???

If you want to keep the pickup distance to the strings the same, you'd have to consider the entire height of the pickup from the top of the pole pieces to the bottom of the legs. Invaders have the large hex bolts on top. Duncan Distortion has a large ceramic magnet.
 
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