RG1570 vs RG570?
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Re: RG1570 vs RG570?
there are 7 or 9 extra hand steps taken on a prestige neck .......fret ends, fret leveling and such.... hand rubbed blah blah blah.
I can tell the difference but the old RG5XXX series necks where made pretty good too.
Just depends how nit picky you are.
My favorite neck is the old super wizard neck on the 90`s series RG5XXX
there are 7 or 9 extra hand steps taken on a prestige neck .......fret ends, fret leveling and such.... hand rubbed blah blah blah.
I can tell the difference but the old RG5XXX series necks where made pretty good too.
Just depends how nit picky you are.
My favorite neck is the old super wizard neck on the 90`s series RG5XXX
Empty Pockets
BadHairDayologist
Re: RG1570 vs RG570?
i dunno why questions like this still come up
there is absolutely going to be a difference in quality of wood, construction, and parts.
nobody ever asks if an Acura is really better than a Honda either.
i dunno why questions like this still come up
there is absolutely going to be a difference in quality of wood, construction, and parts.
nobody ever asks if an Acura is really better than a Honda either.
Ayrton
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Re: RG1570 vs RG570?
The "Prestige" steps have not meant anything for years, but that is another topic (about current Ibanez quality).
The 1570 gets the "prestige" neck profile, and 5 piece construction.
The 570 gets the older "wizard" profile, and a scarf joint.
The 1570 gets the "All Access Neck Joint" or AANJ.
The 570 can either the older plate joint, or the AANJ.
The 1570 gets the "Edge Pro" tremolo and none locking studs
The 570 gets the original "Edge" and locking studs.
There are other things of course, but that is what is important.
Personally I prefer the older ones for various reasons, but mainly for the tremolo, and plate neck joint.
The "Prestige" steps have not meant anything for years, but that is another topic (about current Ibanez quality).
The 1570 gets the "prestige" neck profile, and 5 piece construction.
The 570 gets the older "wizard" profile, and a scarf joint.
The 1570 gets the "All Access Neck Joint" or AANJ.
The 570 can either the older plate joint, or the AANJ.
The 1570 gets the "Edge Pro" tremolo and none locking studs
The 570 gets the original "Edge" and locking studs.
There are other things of course, but that is what is important.
Personally I prefer the older ones for various reasons, but mainly for the tremolo, and plate neck joint.
Re: RG1570 vs RG570?
Acura is a luxury line.. I EXpect it to be better. Just like ESP vs LTD...
But this 1570 and my 1990Rg570 are the same company, and mainly the same model. I dont have the chance to play them back to back and compare.
Mine is an older model when quality seemed better. I know the prestiges are supposed to be much more "refined" but it seems (as Ayrton mentions) that the Prestige ones arent as exclusive any more and Im guessing arent as special as they used to be. I played a different model with the Prestige neck and honestly didnt think it was any better than my old one.. So, again, since I cant play them back to back, Im just wondering if I would be benefitting myself much buying a new 1570..
Thats why I ask..
Acura is a luxury line.. I EXpect it to be better. Just like ESP vs LTD...
But this 1570 and my 1990Rg570 are the same company, and mainly the same model. I dont have the chance to play them back to back and compare.
Mine is an older model when quality seemed better. I know the prestiges are supposed to be much more "refined" but it seems (as Ayrton mentions) that the Prestige ones arent as exclusive any more and Im guessing arent as special as they used to be. I played a different model with the Prestige neck and honestly didnt think it was any better than my old one.. So, again, since I cant play them back to back, Im just wondering if I would be benefitting myself much buying a new 1570..
Thats why I ask..
J
Jessie Sammler
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Re: RG1570 vs RG570?
I stopped being impressed with the Prestige label when Korean ones started popping up. For me, there's something magic about that factory in Japan.
I have seen some really, really great Japanese Prestige guitars, though, and I've liked them as much as, or more than, the old Japanese RG's I've owned.
I stopped being impressed with the Prestige label when Korean ones started popping up. For me, there's something magic about that factory in Japan.
I have seen some really, really great Japanese Prestige guitars, though, and I've liked them as much as, or more than, the old Japanese RG's I've owned.
Ayrton
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Re: RG1570 vs RG570?
Hell no, you can find mint 1570s for cheap. In fact Ibanez just had a $100 rebate on left over new ones.
Hell no, you can find mint 1570s for cheap. In fact Ibanez just had a $100 rebate on left over new ones.
Re: RG1570 vs RG570?
haha I didnt mean buying a BRAND new one.. I meant the "new" 1570 model designation. As I said, I have an old (nearly mint) 570 and just wondering if the 1570s are any better. I found a used one Im interested in..
haha I didnt mean buying a BRAND new one.. I meant the "new" 1570 model designation. As I said, I have an old (nearly mint) 570 and just wondering if the 1570s are any better. I found a used one Im interested in..
Ayrton
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Re: RG1570 vs RG570?
Ok, well then "better" would really be up to you. The build quality is no better or worse than the older ones, but it is a different guitar.
The neck has a different profile, and the tremolo is different.
For what it is worth, I have plenty of both, and I love them all the same.
Ok, well then "better" would really be up to you. The build quality is no better or worse than the older ones, but it is a different guitar.
The neck has a different profile, and the tremolo is different.
For what it is worth, I have plenty of both, and I love them all the same.
Petrovsk Mizinski
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The RG1550s and 1570s are the only 6 string Prestige RG series guitars that still come with the Edge Pro.
The upper models now all come with this horrid Edge Zero.
It's marketed as being easier and quicker to set up, which is true, but the sustain block is smaller as a result of the stupid design and you cannot put a bigger one in there, and the sustain really suffers.
The 1570s are great guitars that play well and with a pickup swap will sound amazing.
RG570s are killer too, although I honestly don't think the original Edge bridge is better than the Edge Pro, about equal, plus I majorly prefer the AANJ anyway, which is a god send if you venture up to those upper frets fairly frequently
The RG1550s and 1570s are the only 6 string Prestige RG series guitars that still come with the Edge Pro.
The upper models now all come with this horrid Edge Zero.
It's marketed as being easier and quicker to set up, which is true, but the sustain block is smaller as a result of the stupid design and you cannot put a bigger one in there, and the sustain really suffers.
The 1570s are great guitars that play well and with a pickup swap will sound amazing.
RG570s are killer too, although I honestly don't think the original Edge bridge is better than the Edge Pro, about equal, plus I majorly prefer the AANJ anyway, which is a god send if you venture up to those upper frets fairly frequently
J
Jessie Sammler
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I agree that the 1570 is great, but in the 570's in the later years also had the AANJ, and the original Edge had the set screws for the pivot studs, which really helped tuning stability.
I agree that the 1570 is great, but in the 570's in the later years also had the AANJ, and the original Edge had the set screws for the pivot studs, which really helped tuning stability.
astrozombie
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I think this is a pretty good answer to the original question.
I dont know much about the exact model in question, but i will say that i played a Prestige S a little while ago and it was a fine guitar.
amazing playability and tone.
I think this is a pretty good answer to the original question.
I dont know much about the exact model in question, but i will say that i played a Prestige S a little while ago and it was a fine guitar.
amazing playability and tone.
Petrovsk Mizinski
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Re: RG1570 vs RG570?
You are correct.
I was thinking of the older RG 570s, because I've only ever played the non AANJ models.
Old RG 550s are unbelievable too.
You are correct.
I was thinking of the older RG 570s, because I've only ever played the non AANJ models.
Old RG 550s are unbelievable too.
J
Jessie Sammler
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Re: RG1570 vs RG570?
Not to get too far off topic, but you have a 7421. I have a 7-string Ibanez that's either a 7421 or a 7621. Do you know how to tell the difference? You can PM me if you don't want to threadjack.
Not to get too far off topic, but you have a 7421. I have a 7-string Ibanez that's either a 7421 or a 7621. Do you know how to tell the difference? You can PM me if you don't want to threadjack.
jmh151
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Re: RG1570 vs RG570?
I had a late model RG570- it maye have been a 1996. Ibanez started to drop in quality around that time- I had a dark, non resonant body that the trem posts fell out of since the wood was so soft and weak.
Then Ibanez gave the 570's the Prestige treatment- better quality control on the woods and better fretwork- then they became 1570's. Ibanez didn't drop in quality like Gibson did with Norlin, but it was a slight drop that they realized and decided to improve upon.
The 570's are still fine guitars, just there may be an occaisonal lemon which the 1570's don't have.
I had a late model RG570- it maye have been a 1996. Ibanez started to drop in quality around that time- I had a dark, non resonant body that the trem posts fell out of since the wood was so soft and weak.
Then Ibanez gave the 570's the Prestige treatment- better quality control on the woods and better fretwork- then they became 1570's. Ibanez didn't drop in quality like Gibson did with Norlin, but it was a slight drop that they realized and decided to improve upon.
The 570's are still fine guitars, just there may be an occaisonal lemon which the 1570's don't have.
Petrovsk Mizinski
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Re: RG1570 vs RG570?
Eh we're on the subject of MIJ Ibanez, why not just post here:laugh2:
The RG 7421 came with the V7-7 and V8-7 pickups, the RG 7621 came with Dimarzio New 7s.
If you're not getting what I mean, here's a pic of my RG 7421 (but obviously I've since put AHB1-7 Blackouts in my guitar, haven't taken photos of it since then though):
Notice how the pickup ears, where the little gold tabs of the pickups are visible is rounded off and somewhat squarish.
If it looks like that, it's an RG 7421.
Triangular ears = 7621.
Eh we're on the subject of MIJ Ibanez, why not just post here:laugh2:
The RG 7421 came with the V7-7 and V8-7 pickups, the RG 7621 came with Dimarzio New 7s.
If you're not getting what I mean, here's a pic of my RG 7421 (but obviously I've since put AHB1-7 Blackouts in my guitar, haven't taken photos of it since then though):
Notice how the pickup ears, where the little gold tabs of the pickups are visible is rounded off and somewhat squarish.
If it looks like that, it's an RG 7421.
Triangular ears = 7621.
Petrovsk Mizinski
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Re: RG1570 vs RG570?
No, The RG 7321 was the Korean made 7. Prior to that Ibanez made all S and RG series 7 strings were made in Japan.
All RG 7421/7621/7420/7620 are Japanese made, the different model numbers denote different pickup configurations (and also in the case of the RG 7620/7420) different trems
No, The RG 7321 was the Korean made 7. Prior to that Ibanez made all S and RG series 7 strings were made in Japan.
All RG 7421/7621/7420/7620 are Japanese made, the different model numbers denote different pickup configurations (and also in the case of the RG 7620/7420) different trems
J
Jessie Sammler
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I've always been interested in whether there were any differences in hardware or construction between the 7421 and the 7621. IIRC, the Ibanez catalogs and website weren't very helpful in pointing out the differences. I've invested a lot in this guitar (which turned out to be a 7621) wondering how silly other people would think the expense and effort to be.
I've always been interested in whether there were any differences in hardware or construction between the 7421 and the 7621. IIRC, the Ibanez catalogs and website weren't very helpful in pointing out the differences. I've invested a lot in this guitar (which turned out to be a 7621) wondering how silly other people would think the expense and effort to be.
