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Yes indeed!
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Rickenbacker - Worst guitars ever?
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Pink Unicorn Horsey
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Re: Rickenbacker - Worst guitars ever?
How do the J and P compare with each other, subjectively speaking, and how would you say they compare to a Ric? (I'll try them all out in any case.)
How do the J and P compare with each other, subjectively speaking, and how would you say they compare to a Ric? (I'll try them all out in any case.)
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theodie
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Rickenbacker, bad guitars but, dam good popcorn!
Yup, Orville Rickenbacker knows all about good popkern!
Rickenbacker, bad guitars but, dam good popcorn!
Yup, Orville Rickenbacker knows all about good popkern!
Oudy
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+1
played 1 or 2 rics, not really my thing, sounded alright thought
+1
played 1 or 2 rics, not really my thing, sounded alright thought
Indie P Bass
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A P-bass, using a split humbucker, is going to have a deeper tone with more thump to it... more bass, so to speak. Strictly speaking, P-basses also have a thicker neck and darker tone than most J-basses.
Now, the J-bass, having two single coil pickups, is going to have a brighter tone. This brighter tone tends to cut a little better through the mix of a band and pop a little more in the higher notes. They also, generally, have thinner, slimmer necks that are, "easier" to play on.
Personally, I prefer P-basses, through and through. I picked up a P-bass Special, instead of a J-bass just to have the P-bass tone on the bass. I rarely use the J pickup on that thing.
Now, ric basses... comepletely differant, right? My friend's got a ric 4001 bass and the tone is a little hard to describe... you've really got to here it. It's got dual single coils, so it's still got the pop of a jazz bass, but still retains the round bottom of a p-bass (not like a P/J combo, but completely differant). The neck is also more like that of a P-bass, but I find it infinately harder to play. I'm not too keen on the bass, it's well made and sounds GREAT, but I just don't like the feel. It's also a pretty heavy bass.
Now, their guitars... I really like their guitars, actually. They tend to play well (when set-up right) and have a really bright and jangly tone. Not something that I would buy right now, but, they're still nice guitars. I thought about picking up a 360, but when I played it, it just didn't feel like me. That's one of the problems. The rics are like the opposite end of the spectrum from ESP guitars, a little too weak for me.
As for the Marshall riding the wave of the Jimmies... I'm completely lost... How can two guys in the 60's playing on the amps push them for 40 odd years more? It's simply impossible. Marshall's a huge name in amps becuase they are the standard by which most other amps are judged (litterally). You play quite a few boutique amps these days, you'll notice that they're based on Marshalls (and there buy Fender amps).
And as for the Marshall = Windows thing, I think it'd be more apt to say, "Marshall = GNU," Widnows is an operating system that was invented in the early 90's to make computing much easier on the average person. Instead of, "C: - cd\westwood - dir/p -cd\westwood\c&c - dir/p - cnc" to open a program (can anyone tell me which on that is?) you just click on the icon for that program, much easier than dos and most other OSes of the era (though Mac OS was fairly similar). Without taking market share and user circles into account, I'd probably analoque it as thus: "Fender = Unix" "Marshall = GNU" "Crate = Windows" "Orange/Hiwatt/Selmer/Vox/other boutique amps = Mac OS"... that's probably the best analogy.
A P-bass, using a split humbucker, is going to have a deeper tone with more thump to it... more bass, so to speak. Strictly speaking, P-basses also have a thicker neck and darker tone than most J-basses.
Now, the J-bass, having two single coil pickups, is going to have a brighter tone. This brighter tone tends to cut a little better through the mix of a band and pop a little more in the higher notes. They also, generally, have thinner, slimmer necks that are, "easier" to play on.
Personally, I prefer P-basses, through and through. I picked up a P-bass Special, instead of a J-bass just to have the P-bass tone on the bass. I rarely use the J pickup on that thing.
Now, ric basses... comepletely differant, right? My friend's got a ric 4001 bass and the tone is a little hard to describe... you've really got to here it. It's got dual single coils, so it's still got the pop of a jazz bass, but still retains the round bottom of a p-bass (not like a P/J combo, but completely differant). The neck is also more like that of a P-bass, but I find it infinately harder to play. I'm not too keen on the bass, it's well made and sounds GREAT, but I just don't like the feel. It's also a pretty heavy bass.
Now, their guitars... I really like their guitars, actually. They tend to play well (when set-up right) and have a really bright and jangly tone. Not something that I would buy right now, but, they're still nice guitars. I thought about picking up a 360, but when I played it, it just didn't feel like me. That's one of the problems. The rics are like the opposite end of the spectrum from ESP guitars, a little too weak for me.
As for the Marshall riding the wave of the Jimmies... I'm completely lost... How can two guys in the 60's playing on the amps push them for 40 odd years more? It's simply impossible. Marshall's a huge name in amps becuase they are the standard by which most other amps are judged (litterally). You play quite a few boutique amps these days, you'll notice that they're based on Marshalls (and there buy Fender amps).
And as for the Marshall = Windows thing, I think it'd be more apt to say, "Marshall = GNU," Widnows is an operating system that was invented in the early 90's to make computing much easier on the average person. Instead of, "C: - cd\westwood - dir/p -cd\westwood\c&c - dir/p - cnc" to open a program (can anyone tell me which on that is?) you just click on the icon for that program, much easier than dos and most other OSes of the era (though Mac OS was fairly similar). Without taking market share and user circles into account, I'd probably analoque it as thus: "Fender = Unix" "Marshall = GNU" "Crate = Windows" "Orange/Hiwatt/Selmer/Vox/other boutique amps = Mac OS"... that's probably the best analogy.
Zhangliqun
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Re: Rickenbacker - Worst guitars ever?
This is mostly due to the position of the pickups. The P-bass pickup is right in between where the bridge and neck pu's of a J-Bass are so it will never sound as bright as the J bridge or J middle tone. For that reason, the J-bass is where the original snap/slap funk bass tone was born, see Marcus Miller.
I dig the look of a Rickenbacker bass but I need the low B. Does Rickenbacker make a 5-string yet? Or a 6-string?
This is mostly due to the position of the pickups. The P-bass pickup is right in between where the bridge and neck pu's of a J-Bass are so it will never sound as bright as the J bridge or J middle tone. For that reason, the J-bass is where the original snap/slap funk bass tone was born, see Marcus Miller.
I dig the look of a Rickenbacker bass but I need the low B. Does Rickenbacker make a 5-string yet? Or a 6-string?
Yngwiestein
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Rickenbackers are fugly!
Rickenbackers are fugly!
sosomething
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Re: Ricks
I love the way they sound.
I hate the way they feel.
That said... AFAIK there exists 13 of these in the world:
12 of them are owned by Roger McGuinn.
The 13th one appears in three songs on my band's new album:eek2: We borrowed it from someone who trusted us more than I probably would have in their place, but it was returned safe and sound.
Beautiful-sounding instrument. I don't think we even did it justice on our recording but we certainly tried. But make no mistake - it is a BEAST to play. My pinkie cried for two days after tracking with it.
Re: Ricks
I love the way they sound.
I hate the way they feel.
That said... AFAIK there exists 13 of these in the world:
12 of them are owned by Roger McGuinn.
The 13th one appears in three songs on my band's new album:eek2: We borrowed it from someone who trusted us more than I probably would have in their place, but it was returned safe and sound.
Beautiful-sounding instrument. I don't think we even did it justice on our recording but we certainly tried. But make no mistake - it is a BEAST to play. My pinkie cried for two days after tracking with it.
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Loserchief
SwingingIdiot
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man rics sound bad and play even worse.
man rics sound bad and play even worse.
Re: Rickenbacker - Worst guitars ever?
That really depends on who's hands they're in & what they're doing with them. I never used to like EMGs, turns out they're just not for me.
That really depends on who's hands they're in & what they're doing with them. I never used to like EMGs, turns out they're just not for me.
Sporky McGuffin
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A friend of mine has a 360 that I absolutely love, and he knows full well never to turn his back on me when I'm playing it or I'd find it hard not to run away with it. Lovely guitar - sounds great, nice to play.
Rickys aren't even that expensive here - roughly half the price of an LP.
A friend of mine has a 360 that I absolutely love, and he knows full well never to turn his back on me when I'm playing it or I'd find it hard not to run away with it. Lovely guitar - sounds great, nice to play.
Rickys aren't even that expensive here - roughly half the price of an LP.
mediumpimpin
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I have to say I've never played a Ricky b4, but they look amazing (appearance wise).
Altho, I must say tho, this thread=
I have to say I've never played a Ricky b4, but they look amazing (appearance wise).
Altho, I must say tho, this thread=
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hard to be a fan of The Who without liking RIC's... i always wanted some of the models Pete used in 1964-67 era... that sound Pete got on the Who's first album is huge for it's day... a fellow Who fan and friend of mine collects Rics and i can't stand to play them... they feel awful in my hands... but those necks are in part what help form Pete's style of playing... using 2 or 3 note chords on the first 3 strings like the songs Substitute, A Quick One, and Overture is in part due to his years on RICs...
i guess if i had some real time to spend with one i'd learn to like those necks
hard to be a fan of The Who without liking RIC's... i always wanted some of the models Pete used in 1964-67 era... that sound Pete got on the Who's first album is huge for it's day... a fellow Who fan and friend of mine collects Rics and i can't stand to play them... they feel awful in my hands... but those necks are in part what help form Pete's style of playing... using 2 or 3 note chords on the first 3 strings like the songs Substitute, A Quick One, and Overture is in part due to his years on RICs...
i guess if i had some real time to spend with one i'd learn to like those necks
Bass_Medic_05
Purveyor of Low End
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I think like the 4001-4003, they are and aquired taste not fo everyone. I don't know how the guitars play but I love the basses
"Rant over. Please fill in with your thoughts on these guitar. But i have to say, as a bassplayer there 4001/4003 basses is one of the best basses ever made."
I think like the 4001-4003, they are and aquired taste not fo everyone. I don't know how the guitars play but I love the basses
"Rant over. Please fill in with your thoughts on these guitar. But i have to say, as a bassplayer there 4001/4003 basses is one of the best basses ever made."
guitfiddle
firstlessonologist
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The Peavey T-60 pwns all other basses!!! After three sets with a 35" scale bass that weighs twenty pounds, all other basses feel like toys. IMO.
The Peavey T-60 pwns all other basses!!! After three sets with a 35" scale bass that weighs twenty pounds, all other basses feel like toys. IMO.
ibanezrocks
HardtailPisser
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What exactly makes them so hard to play? I played one several years ago for a few minutes in a store and I don't remember having any problems with it.
What exactly makes them so hard to play? I played one several years ago for a few minutes in a store and I don't remember having any problems with it.
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Howdy,
I'm a big fan of Rickenbacker. Never any "quality slide" issues (like Gibson and Fender). They're beautiful, well made and unique. I think "Green River" just wouldn't be the same on a Fender!
As for the allegation of being overpriced, they went way up recently, fair enough. Let's look at this another way: In Aug. 2005 I bought a Rickenbacker 360/6 in Mapleglo (at no extra charge!) for just $1250 OTD! A quality, Made in-the USA semi-hollow electric for that? Now this guitar is around $2250 at MF.
Rickenbackers, for me, capture a piece of the British Invasion. I couldn't imagine not having at least one.
Eggman
PS: Most of my Rock & Roll heroes used Rickys.
Howdy,
I'm a big fan of Rickenbacker. Never any "quality slide" issues (like Gibson and Fender). They're beautiful, well made and unique. I think "Green River" just wouldn't be the same on a Fender!
As for the allegation of being overpriced, they went way up recently, fair enough. Let's look at this another way: In Aug. 2005 I bought a Rickenbacker 360/6 in Mapleglo (at no extra charge!) for just $1250 OTD! A quality, Made in-the USA semi-hollow electric for that? Now this guitar is around $2250 at MF.
Rickenbackers, for me, capture a piece of the British Invasion. I couldn't imagine not having at least one.
Eggman
PS: Most of my Rock & Roll heroes used Rickys.
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