RWRP set for a jazzcaster/telemaster?

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Roosje Urbach

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Hello, I wish to combine a Jazzmaster neck pickup with a telecaster bridge pickup, but would like the set to be RWRP for hum cancellation when both are on.

If I use a STL-1b broadcaster bridge and an SJM-1n vintage Jazzmaster neck, would they be RWRP ? Or should I order the bridge version of the jazzmaster pickup to get a RWRP set with the broadcaster bridge? Does anyone know?


Kind regards, Roosje
 
Re: RWRP set for a jazzcaster/telemaster?

I personally believe the RWRP doesn't sound as good as pickup with same polarity and wound, but it could be psychoacoustics only.
 
Re: RWRP set for a jazzcaster/telemaster?

I've never thought there was a difference in tone with RWRP other than the hum. In fact- I once installed a Jazzmaster pickup upside down (don't ask) and as a result did not get hum cancelling because the pickups were then same-polarity. But I played that way for a while before flipping and switching leads, and the tone did not change to my ears.

I don't know the polarity of the Broadcaster pickup. But a solution is... It is possible to install a Jazzmaster pickup upside down to reverse polarity vs. the bridge pickup if you need to, then you can flip the ground/hot if needed to get in phase and hum cancel. In order to install upside down you would need to remove and reattach wires to the opposite side of the bobbin.
 
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Re: RWRP set for a jazzcaster/telemaster?

Thanks for the replies!

However I do not want to get into the RWRP vs. non RWRP discussion. I have built, repaired and serviced guitars for a living for 25 years and I want RWRP for this particular guitar I am builing right now (jazzmaster style body made out of salvaged tropical hardwood from 70's hospital banisters, not sure what wood it is, but it's hard, brown and dry, and the dust is killing me).
I made the neck from a stewmac maple neck blank, indian rosewood fingerboard and their "hotrod" trussrod.
I also do not want to use a new pickup upside down to achieve this on a guitar I am making for a pro.

I have emailed Duncan for a reply on this, and posted this in the forum to get an answer to my question: Do I need the SJM-1n or SJM-1b for correct phase and RWRP combined with the Duncan STL-1b? or are non of these pickups suitable for such a combination in RWRP (which is also thinkable)?

I love, trust and like to use Seymour Duncans on guitars I make and customize. But I do not want to stock up on pickups I cannot use for this project. I understand this is an uncommon combination, as I have never made it myself in the last 25 years. But it seems like a simple question for the tech guys/gals at SD that must be watching this forum or reading their emails?

Hoping for an answer, with Love, Roosje
 
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With my pickup there was no difference between the top and bottom bobbin and the magnets stuck out to an equal degree on both sides. That's how I made the mistake and installed it upside down- there's seriously no "up" or "down" on the pickup, except as marked with the label, or the side the coil wires attach to (and both sides have holes for that so it's not an issue.)

I'd sooner flip the pickup than install the bridge position in the neck, but that's imo.
 
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Hi Silence Kid, Thanks for your helpful input in this matter!
But stil: I do not want to change wiring direction: I want to keep the ground wires close to the magnets on the Jazzmaster pickup. If I reverse winding direction the magnets become capacitavely close to "hot" which causes more hum/buzz (especially if you touch the magnets). This I do not want.

If this question remains unsolved, I will just order the Duncan SJM-1n (which I find superb!) and send it to a local pickupwinder to have me a telecaster bridge pickup made, wound in RWRP to this one to my specs. Perhaps even a tapped coil in this case!

I know the Duncan custom shop could pull this off, but here in europe their distance to me through their distributors is just too long. Also my dealer/builder discount comes into play here:
I love Duncan pickups, and have used them professionally since 1993, but the discounts I am getting on their products are getting smaller here. Especially when I compare european webshop prices with my wholesale prices, the difference becomes negible.

I sincerely hope to get a good tech answer to my question, as I would like to have Seymour Duncan Pickups in this artist guitar.
15 years ago I couls call seymour duncan, and get a straight asnwer. Today I try through the forum, and send them an email. Still no answer. My mark up on Duncan Products compared to webshop prices is decreasing. I very much consider to go completelely custom, and ask someone local to wind my pickups. But as things are, I want to use Seymour Duncan, and I want this question answered.

Kind regards, Roosje Urbach
 
Re: RWRP set for a jazzcaster/telemaster?

I hate to say it because I hate social media - But I think Seymour Duncan may respond more quickly through Facebook. I'm also a Jazzmaster fan so hope you get a response to your problem; and that's an interesting take on the "hot" wire, I will perhaps experiment with that myself when I come across pickups in the future.
 
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