Satch's Pickups On The Live San Francisco DVD

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slash857 said:
hmm... on cool #9 on that dvd when it pauses on that really high note from the whammy pedal and zooms in on the p'up, it looks more to me like a screamin demon than a pg?? maybe its just weird lighting on the top coil....

Its a PG, he even called the guitar "Pearly" until it was stolen shortly after that gig
 
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taphappy said:
My guitar is the shop right now getting a Fred put in, I can hardly wait to crank out some satch on it. I'll have to agree that on the DVD the pearly gates did have a warmer tone when ccompared to the Fred, which is something I didnt expect after seeing all the reviews about it being super bright.

Thank you....My great ears know what they hear and the PG Chrome Boy is definately warmer,less gainey,and more articulate sounding than the Dimarzio axe....Regardless of what pedal or speaker cab or whatever he used,that's what I hear and it was my point basically....I was trying to compare what I heard between the Duncans and the Dimarzios....:13:

Other than the articulation factor between the A5 Fred and the A2 PG,it makes sense that the PG w/A2 would be sweeter and maybe rounder with more mids compared to the Fred...I know the 2 pickups are night and day,but the A2 PG also sounded cleaner,warmer,and had a more vintage character from what I hear between the guitars he used...The Fred sounded less clear on the notes but it seemed to sustain better and that Dimarzio guitar was gainier...Could be that Satch kicked in other stuff to make that happen with the Dimarzio axe,but that's exactly what I hear...
 
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I agree with your assesment of the differences between the Fred and the PG. I had a Fred in a guitar for awhile and then went to the PG in the same guitar. Your description is pretty much spot on to the way I heard them in the same guitar. Their both very good pickups, in my opinion.
 
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Lake Placid Blues said:
I agree with your assesment of the differences between the Fred and the PG. I had a Fred in a guitar for awhile and then went to the PG in the same guitar. Your description is pretty much spot on to the way I heard them in the same guitar. Their both very good pickups, in my opinion.

Thanks......I always trust "my" ears,plus my explanation of things is usually accurate or I don't run my piehole!.....:dance:
 
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madguitar26 said:
read somewhere a long time ago it was an antiquity set.

I only recall reading about a set of PG...He actually called the one guitar his "PG Chrome Boy"..
 
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couldnt maybe PG be related to something else rather than a pearly gates set?
sounds too obvious
 
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madguitar26 said:
couldnt maybe PG be related to something else rather than a pearly gates set?
sounds too obvious

Possible,but doubful,plus Satch's guitar with the Duncans in it has the Seymour Duncan labels you can clearly see on the black bobbin tops you see in the dvd....Not to say he doesn't have Antiquities in another guitar,but I doubt it on the Live In San Fran dvd...

I need to look,but I think he may have called that axe "Pearly Crome Boy" but the term may have more to do with the look of the guitar and not the pickups? Or it could mean both?
 
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i thought the antiquities had seymour duncan logo on them ,aparently i was wrong.
a famous brazilian guitar tech Henry Ho went with G3 on tour some time ago and reported joe used a DD and pearly gates,bridge and neck respectively.
maybe he changed them both to PG´s later....who knows
 
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madguitar26 said:
i thought the antiquities had seymour duncan logo on them ,aparently i was wrong.
a famous brazilian guitar tech Henry Ho went with G3 on tour some time ago and reported joe used a DD and pearly gates,bridge and neck respectively.
maybe he changed them both to PG´s later....who knows

Found this over on Joe's website.....


Joe Satriani
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"My "Pearly" Chrome Ibanez guitar was stolen last night during load out at the Ruth Eckerd Hall in Clearwater, Fl. If anyone knows anything about this please let us know asap...Not much else to say...Joe"...

From Forum member "The Architect"

"Its a PG, he even called the guitar "Pearly" until it was stolen shortly after that gig"
 
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i thought the antiquities had seymour duncan logo on them ,aparently i was wrong.

The Antiquities come with aged covers and I don't see why the bobbin tops would have the emblems? Maybe? Plus the covers come different colors...Maybe someone that has pulled the covers could answer this for us? Interesting actually.
 
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STRATDELUXER97 said:
The Fred came out in 1989....I think Surfing did come out before this pickup...Not sure on what pickups he actually used prior to the Fred though? More than likely he was using the PAF Pro pretty extensively and an interview in my Dimarzio catalog said he's been using Dimarzios for 15 years or so....

"We designed FRED® to bump the mid-range of the PAF Pro® EQ up a notch, but in the process, something unusual happened. Harmonics that humbuckers usually don't reproduce started popping out, particularly with overdriven amps and distortion units. FRED® has about the same power as the PAF Pro®, but the unusual overtones create a sound with more crank and growl. Joe Satriani was the first player to discover and exploit these qualities, and it's been his main bridge pickup ever since. FRED® is really sensitive to changes in pick attack and control settings, and its distinctive tone makes a great recorded sound for both penetrating solos and tight rhythm tracks.
Tech Talk: The Fred® started out as a prototype designed to add a little midrange to the PAF Pro®. When we sent one of the first ones to Joe Satriani, he discovered and exploited a unique tonal characteristic - the Fred®'s ability to emphasize upper midrange and treble harmonics through an overdriven and distorted amp. Many standard humbuckers have a tendency to fatten up with distortion. The Fred® does the opposite; it gets tighter and brighter, much like a single-coil. Joe uses the Fred® strictly as a bridge pickup, but it's also a distinctive neck pickup - works really well with a Norton®, Tone Zone® or Evolution® bridge model".


The Surfing with An Alien guitar was a Kramer (with Duncans i believe)... Joe says that Kramer sounds amazing but it will not stay in tune that well on tour so he never used it live..
 
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The Antiquitys look just like 50's Gibson pafs when you remove the covers. No Duncan logo. Lew
 
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Lewguitar said:
The Antiquitys look just like 50's Gibson pafs when you remove the covers. No Duncan logo. Lew

Thanks for the clarification on that for us buddy!
 
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PG is too bright? It does have an eq that I'm not super crazy about in the high end. But it IS just enough to cut through a mix. It's a great pup overall. I'm specifically speaking about the neck version.

In terms of the bridge, I've only used the A5 version (from the Fender Lone Star) and that I didn't like much at all-but admittedly the guitar itself didn't sound that great. I'd like to try the neck with an A5 sometime...any ideas about what that would sound like?

Mark
 
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Farkus said:
PG is too bright? It does have an eq that I'm not super crazy about in the high end. But it IS just enough to cut through a mix. It's a great pup overall. I'm specifically speaking about the neck version.

In terms of the bridge, I've only used the A5 version (from the Fender Lone Star) and that I didn't like much at all-but admittedly the guitar itself didn't sound that great. I'd like to try the neck with an A5 sometime...any ideas about what that would sound like?

Mark

I had the PG+ in my strat for a very short time also and I thought it was way too toppy(spikey).....I do like the regular PGB in a les paul or my SG though..
 
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WhoFan said:
The Surfing with An Alien guitar was a Kramer (with Duncans i believe)... Joe says that Kramer sounds amazing but it will not stay in tune that well on tour so he never used it live..

I think its the fred and paf pro combo because before the dimarzio site got all fancy, the fred had sound bytes with flying in a blue dream and always with you, always with me. Plus dimarzio says the fred was first used by Satch so he could have used it before it was released to the public.
 
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taphappy said:
I think its the fred and paf pro combo because before the dimarzio site got all fancy, the fred had sound bytes with flying in a blue dream and always with you, always with me. Plus dimarzio says the fred was first used by Satch so he could have used it before it was released to the public.

That's correct....Satch was using a Fred prototype before it was released...Basically it was a modified PAF Pro...
 
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STRATDELUXER97 said:
That's correct....Satch was using a Fred prototype before it was released...Basically it was a modified PAF Pro...

Watch the video Satch Tapes...... I think there is info on that Kramer in that video... I also read that that Kramer is a Single humbucker and 2 single coils guitar..... Could be a Fred in that guitar but i have been led to believe otherwise.... i thought the Blue Dream album was the first album with Freds...

In the Satch Tapes video i think that is where Joe says that the Surfing album was recorded with $5,000... Hey got a letter in the mail from a credit card company offering him a new card so he signed up.... $5000 was the maximum credit so he used it to record the album.... the last tune on the album they didn't have enough recording tape to finnish the song... so they raided the garbage cans in the studio and spliced together pieces of tape to be able to finnish the project!!!!
 
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