Scatterwound mismatched higher resistance Low wind PAF
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Teleplayer
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1) What do you mean by high resistance / low wind? It sounds like a contradiction.
2) Are you asking for a pickup with mis-matched coils, eg. screw coil > slug coil?
2) Are you asking for a pickup with mis-matched coils, eg. screw coil > slug coil?
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Rex_Rocker
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And scatterwound PAF too. PAF's were not scatterwound.
freefrog
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IF the goal is to have humbuckers with scatter wound and mismatched coils, in the upper range of 7k-9k P.A.F. style humbuckers wound with 42AWG wire...
Most boutique hand winders should be able to wind that on request. A slightly overwound Zhangbucker "Slugbucker" would fit the bill, for instance.
NOTE - A way to obtain an "higher resistance low wind" humbucker would be to have it wound with 43 or 44 AWG. But I suppose it was not the request here (?)...
Most boutique hand winders should be able to wind that on request. A slightly overwound Zhangbucker "Slugbucker" would fit the bill, for instance.
NOTE - A way to obtain an "higher resistance low wind" humbucker would be to have it wound with 43 or 44 AWG. But I suppose it was not the request here (?)...
beaubrummels
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Staybobo
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"Specs over everything" is not a good way to order a pickup.
marcello252
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tonerider claims having scatterwound pickups, hi imp too
eclecticsynergy
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One can make a vintage style hum with extreme coil offset. The Wizz GregBilly bridge has a whole lot of offset (don't have DCR numbers; it isn't a four-wire pickup).
The result is a fat but aggressive pickup, very much a Tele-on-steroids bridge tone. Not a low wind PAF type, though. And hum rejection isn't as good as a symmetric wind.
Machines can do scatter too. Not the same thing as hand-fed scatter winding, of course. Or true hand-wrapping (which nobody but Zhanbbucker seems to do anymore).
But increasing the transit on a mechanical winding machine puts less wire on each layer. Tonerider claims to do that.
Still not sure how a low wind could have high resistance, though, unless the wire were much thinner than vintage PAF type wire.
The result is a fat but aggressive pickup, very much a Tele-on-steroids bridge tone. Not a low wind PAF type, though. And hum rejection isn't as good as a symmetric wind.
Machines can do scatter too. Not the same thing as hand-fed scatter winding, of course. Or true hand-wrapping (which nobody but Zhanbbucker seems to do anymore).
But increasing the transit on a mechanical winding machine puts less wire on each layer. Tonerider claims to do that.
Still not sure how a low wind could have high resistance, though, unless the wire were much thinner than vintage PAF type wire.
freefrog
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You make me realize that I could have mentioned Fralin Unbuckers, since Lindy Fralin offers underwound/overwound options for his models...
+1 about scatter with machines: some winders claim to have programmed their CNC to introduce a certain amount of random layering in their coils.
And there's the sophistical argument that ALL pickups are scatterwound to some extent, of course... A Zoom on a coil wound on a Leesona doesn't refutate this idea. ;-)
In reply to other answers and regarding hand wound humbuckers: personally, I wouldn't be so categorical... Some hand winders have a very consistent technique and many highly prized boutique P.A.F. replicas are in fact wound manually. In some cases, it can be heard (when the coils have the capacitance and Q factor typically due to hand winding) but the lines blurry with other models - and anyway, even a "typical" hand wound product with low capacitance / low Q factor has something interesting to offer, precisely in its difference with machine wound coils... ;-)
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