Schecter C-1 FR

[Xeromus]

Re: Schecter C-1 FR

Davey, look at the guitar in my sig, and look at the picture.

I do fine setups. We're talking about someone here that has no experience with a Floyd. Is it gonna give him trouble for a while til he learns it? Without a doubt. Does my guitar sound a lot more bright and thin than it would if it were a hardtail? You betcha, that's just the nature of the beast.

Edit: I'm playing my guitar now and I just popped a string LOL!!! My floyd knew I was making fun of it.

 

[Davey]

Re: Schecter C-1 FR

if he gets it set up by a pro once he gets it?

ZERO problems. I wouch for that.
zerb set mine up completely before he sent it to me and i had NO problems AT ALL with it. and the only experience i had with trems previously is to try out one or two at the local stores

it sounds diferent, yes, i give you that, but it doesnt sound worse and you most certainly dont sacrifice anything just because you have one.
if you need a good working tremolo, you should look no firther than schaller or original floyd roses ( which are basically the same thing)

 

[milkandmeat]

Re: Schecter C-1 FR

just curius.....why is a tremolo on say a strat different?

 

[Mr 9finger]

Re: Schecter C-1 FR

very subjective statement.

you are sacrificing nothing if you got a floyded guitar.

before i got my fusion, i had 0 experience with floyds or trems in general and i do fine. during string changes you gotta block it so it stays in the regular position, restring it, tune it, lock it up and play like it's your last day on earth, whack that floyd like a nutcase, then block the trem again in it's normal position, unlock the nut, retune and if you are using the same gauge and manufacturer strings, it should stay in tune untill you change the strings again.
the D string broke on mine and i had it back in tune in 5 minutes, so telling people that floyds have crappy tone and that they should stay away from them because it's their first floyded guitar is complete and utter, steaming :bsflag:


the thing with the floyd is, if you want to go from standard to Eb or drop down to dropC or something, that it cannot do. but dropD i found is not a problem.

so dont go misleading people just because you didnt have a quality floyd or couldnt do a setup worth a damn.

it IS time consuming if you want to change gauges (you only do it once though, unless you change them all the time) and you have to re-set it if you want to do a diferent tuning, but you also do it once. and i have said before. if your purpose is to do a lot of diferent tunings with 1 guitar then the floyd isnt for you. for everything else, it's the perfect tremolo system

After reading this entire thread. I've got to sign what Davey said like MOFO!

There have been some really ignorant remarks made in here, and those the same remarks that here all the time by people who A. Don't understand how a Floyd really works B. People that have never used a good Floyd or C. People that don't take the time to learn the basics of the system and get all pissed of when they don't work like they are supposed to.


Facts
The original Floyd is the BEST double locking bridge out there. PERIOD
An Original Floyd will brighten the overall tone of guitar, not necessarily a bad thing
An Original Floyd will bleed off some Bass depending on the sustain block, normally only found to happen in the short blocks. Still not a big deal, you do have a Bass control on your EQ.


Y'all giving him a hard time over getting a Floyd equipped axe is kind of disturbing. He's already stated that he has 2 hardtailed guitars and is wanting to try something new. Plus if he never has a Floyded guitar, how is he supposed to learn about them? It's good learning experience!


Bottom line dude. Go play the guitar, if you like, BUY IT or order it whatever.

I don't offer this usually but since so many people seem to be against the Mighty Floyd, I will offer you my undivided attention on helping you setting up the Floyd etc... by Instant messenger, email, hell, I'll give you my home phone #

They are not as difficult to figure out as people like to make tem out to be. I don't own a guitar w/out a Floyd and I can have them restrung, stretched and in tune in less than 15 mins. and that's for full floaters!

 

[milkandmeat]

Re: Schecter C-1 FR

so will i be able to switch between standard and drop d, or not?

as for chaning strings being a problem....lately with school and work i dont have all that much time to play, so i can go without changing strings for about 6 months. i wouldnt mind having to go get it setup every 6 months, and just have them put the strings on for me.

 

[Davey]

Re: Schecter C-1 FR

get daddarios... i change them about every 7 months with daily playing (at home) or when a string pops.

on my trem, i can drop it to D without a problem. on yours it might be diferent

 

[Xeromus]

Re: Schecter C-1 FR

get daddarios... i change them about every 7 months with daily playing (at home) or when a string pops.

on my trem, i can drop it to D without a problem. on yours it might be diferent

7 months? Holy crap. How can you go that long. Mine need to be changed once a month mininum. More like every few weeks.

 

[Davey]

Re: Schecter C-1 FR

7 months? Holy crap. How can you go that long. Mine need to be changed once a month mininum. More like every few weeks.

got no idea. they just last me that long. i dont sweat much. only if it's realy hot.

when i do change em though, it's like.. woah, new strings, new sound LOL

 

[BloodRose]

Re: Schecter C-1 FR

Bottom line, floyd trems are more difficult to restring, more time consuming to intonate. But.. you will learn. I learned. So, dont sweat it.. They are awesome guitars and the OFR is the best you can get. Once set, it will stay in tune pretty well. And hey, if ya dont wanna dive, dont put the trem arm in.
I blocked my RG trem where it wont go backwards and it is a rock. And something no one else has mentioned, the OFR will accept a D tuna. Put one on my RG and so I can go drop d anytime with no sweat..
You have hard tails and obviously want a trem. Enjoy and let me know how you like it. I been wanting one myself..

 

[milkandmeat]

Re: Schecter C-1 FR

"the OFR will accept a D tuna. Put one on my RG and so I can go drop d anytime with no sweat.."

im confused....what did you put on?

also, sorry for another stupid question.....but i see some people talking about an original floyd rose......is that what this guitar has?

 

[D-EJ915]

Re: Schecter C-1 FR

Unless you're really anal, or use the floyd more than having it in position...just keep the locking nut unlocked for the E and A strings and just detune that way, it really won't be a big deal unless you're recording or playing live where you don't want it to mess up.

 

[kherman]

Re: Schecter C-1 FR

if he gets it set up by a pro once he gets it?

you should look no firther than schaller or original floyd roses ( which are basically the same thing)

I strongly suggest staying away from the Schaller Floyd II.

I've never cared for the base of that unit.
It's too soft and the screws for locking down the saddles can strip on it too easely.
I had two units, both on different guitars do that to me.

For Floyd type units I feel the
Original Floyd Rose
Original Ibanez Edge
and
Kahler Steeler
are/were the best out there.

I haven't played much with the Edge Pro or Double edge Pro
on the ibanez prestige models. So, I can't comment on those.

Kent

 

[BloodRose]

Re: Schecter C-1 FR

"the OFR will accept a D tuna. Put one on my RG and so I can go drop d anytime with no sweat.."

im confused....what did you put on?

also, sorry for another stupid question.....but i see some people talking about an original floyd rose......is that what this guitar has?

I put a D tuna on my RG. Thats what I put on.. : ) Some trems wont take them. My Jackson dk2 isnt a compatable design to fit a D tuna. (boy was I pi... Um, ticked off. )
Yes, the Schecter c1fr is supposed to have the original floyd rose. And thats arguably the best version. The design and build. The metal is harder so the contact points (knife edges) dont wear out easy. Plus the metal wont flex causing tuning issues.

 

[Davey]

Re: Schecter C-1 FR

kherman.. dont worry.. only thing i play is OFR's if it has an original edge, i wouldnt replace it, but since i dont play/plan on buying ibanez guitars, the only thing that is left is the OFR (and schaller floyd one that is currently on my fusion.. wont replace that one)

 

[milkandmeat]

Re: Schecter C-1 FR

I put a D tuna on my RG. Thats what I put on.. : ) Some trems wont take them. My Jackson dk2 isnt a compatable design to fit a D tuna. (boy was I pi... Um, ticked off. )
Yes, the Schecter c1fr is supposed to have the original floyd rose. And thats arguably the best version. The design and build. The metal is harder so the contact points (knife edges) dont wear out easy. Plus the metal wont flex causing tuning issues.

whats a D tuna and how much do they cost?

 

[itbepopples]

Re: Schecter C-1 FR

i'd hope so. if i ordered one and got one with the dots i'd throw it back a the sellers head, then burn it with him.
i HATE dot inlays! as soon as i got some money i'm getting rid of the charvels neck mainly because of the dots

Agreed.

 

[BloodRose]

Re: Schecter C-1 FR

A D tuna is a little metal sliding device that attaches to your floyd rose on near the low E string. It was designed by Eddie Vah Halen and it really works. You slide it in and your low E is in E tuning. you pull it out and the low E is now a D. Drop D tuning with the flick of your wrist and NO permanent modification to your guitar.. Cost when I bought mine, $60 ( GRRRRR,) now they run about $40.

 

[milkandmeat]

Re: Schecter C-1 FR

where can i get the evh d tuna? if i get the c-1 with the floyd rose....will i be able to put on the d tuna and switch between E and D without mesing up the setup?

 

[SoCalSteve]

Re: Schecter C-1 FR

You can read about the D-tuna here: www.dtuna.com If you won't be pulling up on the bar you can consider a Peavey Wolfgang. (used, out of production) They come equipped with a D-tuna. The trem rests against the body as opposed to floating so you can lower the pitch (divebombs) but not raise it.

 

[Lee_L]

Re: Schecter C-1 FR

Wow, I read this whole thread! I'll give you my take. I don't own a Floyd-equipped guitar, however currently I've got my uncle's late 80s Charvel with a Kahler bridge. I haven't restrung it myself because I took it to a shop to have it setup, and that was only about a month or two ago. This is my first guitar with a tremolo, and I use it quite a bit. It's pretty fun to me, so I just wail on the thing! As far as Floyds go, if you've got two hardtail axes, go ahead and get it. If you decide you don't like it, sell it. You could always get a guitar with a Wilkinson tremolo, or some other non-locking tremolo, if you decide you like having the trem but don't like the hassles of a Floyd.