Screamin' Demon paired with?

[audiocheck]

Re: Screamin' Demon paired with?

It actually balanced out the pickup. It was a little thin with double hex screws. The filisters added a bit of lows and mids.

You can get all types of stuff here:

http://www.mojotone.com

Thank you! I did some research after looking at your link. So the first change I am gonna make is change the Fillsters to 1/2" Fillsters. This is supposed to thin things out a bit. I just did some more tweaking on the Neck Demon and I am finding that I have to make the neck pup a bit louder (closer to the strings) under gain to maintain a more balanced volume switch. Without the gain (clean amp) the neck is now a bit more powerful. Since I mostly play under gain, I think this may help when switching pups during leads.

 

[audiocheck]

Re: Screamin' Demon paired with?

UPDATE:

I currently swapped out the standard Filisters for 1/2" ones on the Demon Neck and so far it has improved the brightness and presence. I am still awaiting a real world playing situation to verify if this will make me happy.

 

[GuitarDoc]

Re: Screamin' Demon paired with?

You love the Demon in the bridge, but the neck Demon is too strong. Lowering the neck Demon didn't get you what you wanted. You stated the you didn't want to change the bridge Demon at all (no magnet swap)...

I love the Demon in the bridge the way it is, So I don't want to change that.

I'm glad that you have found some improvement in the tone by replacing the filister screws. But If balance is an issue and you can't correct it by tweaking the neck pup, a great option actually IS to tweak the bridge pup, then compensate by adjusting the amp.

I would recommend that you at least try leaving the neck Demon as you now have it, but put an A8 mag in the bridge pup. This will increase the output of the bridge pup and give you the neck-to-bridge balance that you are looking for.

 

[GuitarDoc]

Re: Screamin' Demon paired with?

ps: you could also put a switch on the neck pup to allow split and parallel. The Demon in parallel gives some very lovely tones and with a fair amount of drop in output. Definitely worth considering.

 

[audiocheck]

Re: Screamin' Demon paired with?

You love the Demon in the bridge, but the neck Demon is too strong. Lowering the neck Demon didn't get you what you wanted. You stated the you didn't want to change the bridge Demon at all (no magnet swap)...

I'm glad that you have found some improvement in the tone by replacing the filister screws. But If balance is an issue and you can't correct it by tweaking the neck pup, a great option actually IS to tweak the bridge pup, then compensate by adjusting the amp.



I would recommend that you at least try leaving the neck Demon as you now have it, but put an A8 mag in the bridge pup. This will increase the output of the bridge pup and give you the neck-to-bridge balance that you are looking for.

Doc,

It's not so much an output misbalance as it is a tonal unbalance. I love the Demon in the bridge (tone as well as output). I do not care too much for overwound or high output pickups. My ultimate tweak would probably be less winds on the Demon for the Neck position, this way it could shift the EQ curve up a bit and then I could slam it up closer to the strings to get as much output as I want.

The Demon is very EQ sensitive to it's distance from the strings. This goes for Bridge as well as placing it in the Neck position. Since it is LIKE (i stress like, because i am not trying to say it is in anyway close to a PAF, but rater a vintage output pickup) an overwound PAF, it can get pretty muddy when placed too close to the strings. So once you get the Bridge set exactly (Tonally) where you want it, it is a challenge to get the Neck to match up. So to match the Output, the Neck now must be placed closer to the strings then I would like. This in turn makes the neck muddier. So I am trying to thin out the tone a bit, so it can be placed closer to the strings. I have raised both the Hex and Filisters on it to accomplish a brighter tone.

It's funny but Duncan has both a Neck and Bridge version of their Screaming' Demon Single coil size HB. Just wonder why they never made a neck version of the Demon in full size HB.

 

[jmcorey]

Re: Screamin' Demon paired with?

I wonder if anyone ever asked for an under-wound Screaming' Demon?

That was my question exactly. Sounds like a call to the custom shop might be in order.

 

[jmcorey]

Re: Screamin' Demon paired with?

Would an A3 mag swap to the neck solve this problem?

 

[Demanic]

Re: Screamin' Demon paired with?

I would think an A4 would be better.

Sent from my MotoE2(4G-LTE) using Tapatalk

 

[GuitarDoc]

Re: Screamin' Demon paired with?

Try the neck Demon in parallel. It might be exactly what you want (I don't think a mag swap to A3 or A4 is going to make enough difference in tone or output to satisfy the OP).

 

[Mincer]

Re: Screamin' Demon paired with?

It's funny but Duncan has both a Neck and Bridge version of their Screaming' Demon Single coil size HB. Just wonder why they never made a neck version of the Demon in full size HB.

I am not sure, but one way to get them to know that is suggest it in their official product suggestion page, the Seymour Duncan Research Lab. The product people do read every suggestion, so it is worth doing.

 

[audiocheck]

Re: Screamin' Demon paired with?

I am not sure, but one way to get them to know that is suggest it in their official product suggestion page, the Seymour Duncan Research Lab. The product people do read every suggestion, so it is worth doing.

Thanks Mincer,

Will do!

 

[blueman335]

Re: Screamin' Demon paired with?

My ultimate tweak would probably be less winds on the Demon for the Neck position, this way it could shift the EQ curve up a bit and then I could slam it up closer to the strings to get as much output as I want.

I accomplish this with spin-a-split. Unbalanced coils increase treble and reduce mids, and spin-a-split lets you dial how much of that you want. For me, most neck HB's are warmer and middier than I prefer, and coil cut and parallel give up too much output.

 

[audiocheck]

Re: Screamin' Demon paired with?

I accomplish this with spin-a-split. Unbalanced coils increase treble and reduce mids, and spin-a-split lets you dial how much of that you want. For me, most neck HB's are warmer and middier than I prefer, and coil cut and parallel give up too much output.

Thanks Bluesman, This maybe an option. I had a spin a split a while back on another guitar. I didn't think of that for this setup. I might give that a shot.

 

[jmcorey]

Re: Screamin' Demon paired with?

Blueman, how much hum is introduced with spin a split? That is, for the amount of splitting that you do to get a decent amount of treble increase and mids reduction, how much hum is reintroduced?

 

[blueman335]

Re: Screamin' Demon paired with?

Blueman, how much hum is introduced with spin a split? That is, for the amount of splitting that you do to get a decent amount of treble increase and mids reduction, how much hum is reintroduced?

Spin-a-split is the large middle ground between full HB and coil split. Coil split (one coil only) is the worst case scenario, and as you gradually add the 2nd coil back in, you keep reducing hum. As soon as you turn the knob and add that first little of the 2nd coil, you can hear a definite increase in volume and mids over coil split, and a decrease in hum. For me, the small amount of hum with unbalanced coils is barely noticeable, and certainly worth brightening and thinning out neck HB's so that they're more useable.

I EQ my amps so that my bridge PU sounds full with a lot of mids and low end; that's priority #1. I hate thin, shrill bridge tones. Very annoying to listen to. My neck HB's are the typical underwound PAF's, but even then, I prefer more high end and less mids from them. Unbalanced coils do that, whether by spin-a-split or hybrid HB's.

jmcorey: I'm a former Michigan boy myself, bailed out in '83 and headed south. Lived in the Detroit suburbs and Detroit itself for a while. Ann Arbor was my favorite city to visit then: the part of town with an indoor botanical garden and hippie shops close by.