SD Antiquity bridge pickup feels weird
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Re: SD Antiquity bridge pickup feels weird
'Dynamics' is something you find in a lower output pickup. If it is working properly you might try a fully charged A5, but after that, if you don't like it, (and assuming it is wired correctly and works properly), you might just not like the Antiquity.
'Dynamics' is something you find in a lower output pickup. If it is working properly you might try a fully charged A5, but after that, if you don't like it, (and assuming it is wired correctly and works properly), you might just not like the Antiquity.
Re: SD Antiquity bridge pickup feels weird
But it's an Antiquity, so we know that the A2 magnet in it is already discharged (well, degaussed).
But it's an Antiquity, so we know that the A2 magnet in it is already discharged (well, degaussed).
blueman335
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Re: SD Antiquity bridge pickup feels weird
I think there's good reason to believe a fully charged PAF would make an Ant sound different, which is why Seymour spec'd out degaussed A2's for them. I think the issue some of us have with Ants is the magnet, not the wind.
There's a lot more alternatives to PAF's besides '59's, both in the Duncan line and outside of it. There's dozens of PAF's made today.
I think there's good reason to believe a fully charged PAF would make an Ant sound different, which is why Seymour spec'd out degaussed A2's for them. I think the issue some of us have with Ants is the magnet, not the wind.
There's a lot more alternatives to PAF's besides '59's, both in the Duncan line and outside of it. There's dozens of PAF's made today.
uOpt
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Re: SD Antiquity bridge pickup feels weird
No, not enough to make it significantly quieter. I also doubt that it would easily show in a magnetic strength test at home.
No, not enough to make it significantly quieter. I also doubt that it would easily show in a magnetic strength test at home.
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Not talking about how degaussed, just that it IS degaussed... We know it's not a full strength magnet is what I'm sayin'.
I wonder if it really is a problem with the wiring or lead on the bridge pickup though...
My gut is saying that it's too close to the strings.. I can see it redlining quick if that's the case. Could be the way the A2 is pushing the front end of his amp too.
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Not talking about how degaussed, just that it IS degaussed... We know it's not a full strength magnet is what I'm sayin'.
I wonder if it really is a problem with the wiring or lead on the bridge pickup though...
My gut is saying that it's too close to the strings.. I can see it redlining quick if that's the case. Could be the way the A2 is pushing the front end of his amp too.
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blueman335
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zenmindbeginner
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Re: SD Antiquity bridge pickup feels weird
I found the Antiquity set to be very dynamic. I go from clean to distorted through picking strength alone... no volume knob. I think if the Antiquity bridge had a dynamics issue I would have noticed it. Behaved like any other low output humbucker.
Like usual, we're arguing Chocolate over Strawberry flavor. Some people like strawberry... it's not an opportunity to give a treatise on what's wrong with chocolate. Personally, I have never played a passive pickup that felt "weird" but that's just me.
I've cycled every low output production SD pickup in and out this past few years and I personally like the Ants just a tick more than the Seths but it's just a slight flavor preference over the other. Do ants sound a little different? Yes... but that was only upon repeated listenings of recordings I made with other Duncans. I noticed the attack was different but I didn't actually "feel" that during playing... so I'm not sure what the OP experienced. It's possible that the clipped attack was something that he noticed during playing that I didn't. The clipped attack to me was a cool feature of the Ant set but others may disagree.
There's nothing wrong with not liking certain flavors... they are equal even though their appeal varies according to one's taste.
I found the Antiquity set to be very dynamic. I go from clean to distorted through picking strength alone... no volume knob. I think if the Antiquity bridge had a dynamics issue I would have noticed it. Behaved like any other low output humbucker.
Like usual, we're arguing Chocolate over Strawberry flavor. Some people like strawberry... it's not an opportunity to give a treatise on what's wrong with chocolate. Personally, I have never played a passive pickup that felt "weird" but that's just me.
I've cycled every low output production SD pickup in and out this past few years and I personally like the Ants just a tick more than the Seths but it's just a slight flavor preference over the other. Do ants sound a little different? Yes... but that was only upon repeated listenings of recordings I made with other Duncans. I noticed the attack was different but I didn't actually "feel" that during playing... so I'm not sure what the OP experienced. It's possible that the clipped attack was something that he noticed during playing that I didn't. The clipped attack to me was a cool feature of the Ant set but others may disagree.
There's nothing wrong with not liking certain flavors... they are equal even though their appeal varies according to one's taste.
Re: SD Antiquity bridge pickup feels weird
Yeah, I think it has a complete lack of compression, which gives you the great dynamics. Now those brought up on hotter, more mid-focused pickups will think they are too clean or clear or open. But try a guitar with an old pickup (my old teacher had a really old Byrdland), and that pickup was like a bell. To my ears it captures that sound really well.
Yeah, I think it has a complete lack of compression, which gives you the great dynamics. Now those brought up on hotter, more mid-focused pickups will think they are too clean or clear or open. But try a guitar with an old pickup (my old teacher had a really old Byrdland), and that pickup was like a bell. To my ears it captures that sound really well.
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If a "complete lack of compression" is how you would describle an Antiquity bridge HB, then there is definitely soemthing wrong with mine!
No I definitely don't think they're too clean or open, they sound amazing and in that regard they're precisely what' I'd been looking for. The best thing would be to try and find someone near me who has the same pickup in a similar guitar. I do a play a lot with the volume and tone knobs on my P90 custom guitar, but I can't seem to make it work with the Epi because of the value of the pots. They seem to be non-linear (I thought that was the standard for volume pots) in the way that they loose approx. half of the volume of the pickups between 10 and 8, so unfortunately there is no way I can use that in a live situation, which is a shame because there is not much treble loss with the pots at 3 or 4, so they could be very useable, but if I set up my amp with the pots at 10, there's no way I can hear the guitar properly past 7 or 6. The volume drop is too extreme for my taste.
Also, I've really tried every possible combination of pickup height and pole pieces and it didn't change much in terms of feeling. The neck pickup is very low anyway because it was significantly louder than the bridge pickup.
I'm not lonely, thanks for asking. I'm just not a guitar tech, I'm a guitar player. I need this guitar everyday if I want to have money to buy things like food and stuff. I can't run the risk to ruin the pickups or the guitar if I try to mod anything too quickly, especially since I can't access to the wiring easily, it's not a Les Paul, it's a 335. I'll let you know as soon as I'll have time to work on it and I'll take all of your suggestions into consideration.
If a "complete lack of compression" is how you would describle an Antiquity bridge HB, then there is definitely soemthing wrong with mine!
No I definitely don't think they're too clean or open, they sound amazing and in that regard they're precisely what' I'd been looking for. The best thing would be to try and find someone near me who has the same pickup in a similar guitar. I do a play a lot with the volume and tone knobs on my P90 custom guitar, but I can't seem to make it work with the Epi because of the value of the pots. They seem to be non-linear (I thought that was the standard for volume pots) in the way that they loose approx. half of the volume of the pickups between 10 and 8, so unfortunately there is no way I can use that in a live situation, which is a shame because there is not much treble loss with the pots at 3 or 4, so they could be very useable, but if I set up my amp with the pots at 10, there's no way I can hear the guitar properly past 7 or 6. The volume drop is too extreme for my taste.
Also, I've really tried every possible combination of pickup height and pole pieces and it didn't change much in terms of feeling. The neck pickup is very low anyway because it was significantly louder than the bridge pickup.
I'm not lonely, thanks for asking. I'm just not a guitar tech, I'm a guitar player. I need this guitar everyday if I want to have money to buy things like food and stuff. I can't run the risk to ruin the pickups or the guitar if I try to mod anything too quickly, especially since I can't access to the wiring easily, it's not a Les Paul, it's a 335. I'll let you know as soon as I'll have time to work on it and I'll take all of your suggestions into consideration.
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zenmindbeginner
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Re: SD Antiquity bridge pickup feels weird
This is absolutely not normal and if anyone on this site gave you the impression that this is how Antiquities normally sound, they are dead wrong. You have a bad pickup and I can't believe people convinced you that you don't. Nothing you describe is how the Antiquity set sounds. The bridge pickup and neck pickup are balanced without any volume difference. I guess they were bought used and someone decided to monkey with the bridge. If they are new send them back period... the bridge pickup has something very wrong about it.
This is absolutely not normal and if anyone on this site gave you the impression that this is how Antiquities normally sound, they are dead wrong. You have a bad pickup and I can't believe people convinced you that you don't. Nothing you describe is how the Antiquity set sounds. The bridge pickup and neck pickup are balanced without any volume difference. I guess they were bought used and someone decided to monkey with the bridge. If they are new send them back period... the bridge pickup has something very wrong about it.
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Of course, I wouldn't have bothered you with it anyway. What's wrong with a little bit of planning?
beaubrummels
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Maybe I'm a jerk, but it sounds like the neck pickup got put in the bridge and the bridge got put in the neck.
Maybe I'm a jerk, but it sounds like the neck pickup got put in the bridge and the bridge got put in the neck.
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That's not a stupid assumption, but it's definitely not the case here!
That's not a stupid assumption, but it's definitely not the case here!
YeRedHouseOverYonder
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SD Antiquity bridge pickup feels weird
The longer you go without returning/exchanging these, the harder it's going to be to get the problem fixed. Do you have any spare humbuckers to slap in the bridge while you get this corrected?
The more and more you post, it's becoming hard to ignore the fact something is wrong with either the pickup or wiring. Your initial post sounded off to me because the antiquities are nothing but dynamic. I didn't/don't want to question what you're hearing, but what you describe keeps pointing to red flags. It "reaching the highest output" sounds off too.
If you're not going to return the Ant. B, start diagnosing the rest of your guitar such as the wiring harness.
The longer you go without returning/exchanging these, the harder it's going to be to get the problem fixed. Do you have any spare humbuckers to slap in the bridge while you get this corrected?
The more and more you post, it's becoming hard to ignore the fact something is wrong with either the pickup or wiring. Your initial post sounded off to me because the antiquities are nothing but dynamic. I didn't/don't want to question what you're hearing, but what you describe keeps pointing to red flags. It "reaching the highest output" sounds off too.
If you're not going to return the Ant. B, start diagnosing the rest of your guitar such as the wiring harness.
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