SD T-Top Replicas

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I like T-Tops fine. They are great bridge pickups for low-headroom amps – not too thick like some PAFs can get at the hotter end of the range. They're actually very well made pickups. Very neatly wound, and very consistently wound. They happened to appear in Gibson Guitars during a period of cost cutting under remote corporate control, so that indirectly gave them a bad rap. I.e. it isn't so much that the pickups sucked, but that they would often come in guitars that could really suck. I really have no complaints about the pickups themselves. I can do pretty much anything I need to do, humbucker-wise, with one or a set of 'em.

That said, I don't see a need to reproduce them. You can get the same basic tone many different ways. It used to be they were cheap, so they were a nice alternative to high end aftermarket pickups. Nowadays, you might as well order a Duncan Custom shop pickup instead of buying an old T-Top.

FWIW, at one time I had three SGs with vintage-style humbuckers. I had a '68 Standard, 100% original with Maetro Vibrola (IIRC, these are basically T-Tops, if not actually T-Tops), an '02 Japanese Epi open-book half guard hardtail Standard that I'd put Gibson '57 Classics in, and a 2012 SG Special Faded hardtail with a factory 490 set. I A-B-C'd all three in recordings, and I couldn't tell a damned difference between them in terms of in the basic tone between them. The most distinctive one was the '68, but ONLY because it was a bit more prone to squealing at high volumes (old pickups in comparison to the other two sets of heavily wax potted ones). As far as the actual tone itself, nobody would be able to hear the difference in a real-world playing situation.
 
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I know others can make them sound good, but I haven't used a T-Top pickup that makes me want to play that particular guitar. I suppose if that was all that was available. But to me, there are so many better, more specialized choices. If someone really wants a T-Top or replica, they can get it, but thankfully those aren't the only choice in a Gibson anymore.
 
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My first guitar, a 1968 Les Paul Custom Black Beauty fretless wonder, had T-Tops.

Great in the neck, shrill and wimpy in the bridge. Not even a 1959 50W Marshall could make up for that tone-footprint.

I was able to solo with that ONLY by using a Boss OD-1. Which I was not that wild with to start with.

What a trip to memory lane... oh, the horror! :(

/Peter
 
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As always - if you REALLY want one, I suspect for less than the cost of a real one MJ will make you one.
 
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As always - if you REALLY want one, I suspect for less than the cost of a real one MJ will make you one.

If I were to spend that sort of money on a custom shop offering, I'd spend it on the new A6 Amos pickups. Even then, I'd be in unfamiliar waters and it'd be a bit of a gamble.

But if anyone wants to trade me a real neck T-Top, I've got some things to trade.
 
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The main reason the T-Top was the most replaced pickup was for harder rock you needed a Super Distortion or JB to drive the non-MV amps of the time. In this video the mid-70s T-Tops sounds thin and anemic, but the 68 and 69 LP's sounded epic!

IME, Patent Stickers T-Tops can be outstanding. That's precisely why I've gone through the hassle to repair one of them for a friend, while we had other excellent pickups at disposal.
 
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...Having bought 2 sets of T-tops and 1 set of Shaws I wondered why they got such a bad rep. In both cases they were plenty strong enough for rock music, they were balanced and had plenty of sustain/dynamics/depth etc. Essentially both sets did similar type thing to PAF's but with a slightly different tone spectrum....


Schenker had a pretty awesome tone on "Strangers in the Night", and he used T-tops.

I have Gibson V that came with a Seth Lover neck model in the bridge. I replaced it with an EVH with a roughcast A5. I'm not sure if it sounds like a T-top, but it sounds pretty sweet.
 
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Holy monkey eff-nuts!!!!!! The CHEAPEST Gibson T-Top is $149 on the Bay?!?!?!?!?!?!?

:smack:

I don't know if this is true or not, but I heard that Gibson 490s were very similar to T-tops, except that they have an A2 magnet. Supposedly swapping the A2 for an A5 gives you a T-top. Dunno if that is true or not.
 
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Schenker had a pretty awesome tone on "Strangers in the Night", and he used T-tops.

I have Gibson V that came with a Seth Lover neck model in the bridge. I replaced it with an EVH with a roughcast A5. I'm not sure if it sounds like a T-top, but it sounds pretty sweet.

If you're talking about the SD Custom Shop EVH/78 Model, it's wound to roughly 9K, so nothing like a T-Top. The EVH Frankenstein pickup is 43AWG instead of 42 and wound to roughly 14K, so even less like a T-Top.
 
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Peter/Discharged, fun fact,
My Fretless Wonder 1968 Les Paul Custom were my first T-tops I owned. I think the 335 I had in or around 1965 (cherry color)
sounded better, but I did not know what they were, I knew nothing of pickups, or even taking them out at that time.
Steve Buffington
 
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I had a 72 black LP custom that had Gibson embossed on the pickup covers
Anyone know what pickups they were ?
 
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T-tops.
Anything from 1965 through 1980 is a t-top......the earliest ones had the older PAF/PAT# bobbin shape/style but the wind was the same. '67 was when the bobbin mould was too far gone for further use - and it was re-made with the T stamping.
 
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Let me be the judge, jury and executioner of that statement. Whoever said that is an idiot. The ONLY thing that could make that true is the mild output of them. To that end, I would say that a Duncan Seth, 59, A2P, PG, and Jazz ALL sound better through any amp made after say, 2000, on principle, than a T-Top. Or one made before 2000, for that matter. Low output pups often sound more articulate with Uber-gain. But articulate crap is still crap.

You need to stop listening "them." They have no idea what they are talking about


Yet you love KIX right? Damage's guitar tone on the bulk of older stuff is his Melody Maker with the T-Tops out of 10/10's Custom
 
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All things are relative to the times. Sometimes it works best to match equipment with other gear that was around at the same time (like a 60's Strat with a 60's Deluxe or Super Reverb) - since that was what they were designed to work with. Other times, like in the case of T-tops, if it was a bit of a failure at the time, maybe mating it with completely different modern gear might breath life into it and find it's sweet spot.

If the cheapest T-top is $149 now, that's about what '57 Classics cost new, no? So doesn't sound that bad, necessarily. I think T-tops were maligned back in the day for two reasons: they didn't drive NMV amps well and sound good through what was available at the time, and often the guitars they were in at the time might not have been the best instruments to start with.

These days with all the amp choices we have, and the various guitar bodies you could put them in, T-tops might just hit the spot for particular guitars and particular amps. Though personally I don't feel a need to seek a T-top out, however, when I can get almost anything I want out of a new or used Duncan, and with more range and better/improved tone than anything Gibson produced in any era I've experienced.
 
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