B00B-screamer
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Can’t decude between nazgul or Pegasus ? I’d like some more heat on tap than the 490r and 498t privides and a little more spank and clarity. Would these do it?
Sentient and Pegasus/nazgul for LP custom
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STLMTLHD79
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Re: Sentient and Pegasus/nazgul for LP custom
To be honest, i wouldnt recommend the Nazgul in a LP. It has a very honky midrange that would not meld well with an LP. The Sentient would go very well with an Alternative 8, Distortion or Duncan Custom.
To be honest, i wouldnt recommend the Nazgul in a LP. It has a very honky midrange that would not meld well with an LP. The Sentient would go very well with an Alternative 8, Distortion or Duncan Custom.
B00B-screamer
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Re: Sentient and Pegasus/nazgul for LP custom
Out of those three which would have the most dynamic range and yet not be overly agressive and still do metal? My black winters are so hot anytime I do something than the lightest licking it clips majorly
Out of those three which would have the most dynamic range and yet not be overly agressive and still do metal? My black winters are so hot anytime I do something than the lightest licking it clips majorly
STLMTLHD79
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Re: Sentient and Pegasus/nazgul for LP custom
Of those 3, i would say the Duncan Custom would be the most dynamic.
Of those 3, i would say the Duncan Custom would be the most dynamic.
Rex_Rocker
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Re: Sentient and Pegasus/nazgul for LP custom
I don't think the Pegasus would be hotter than the 498T, TBH. More clarity, sure, but if anything, I'd say the 498T probably has the edge on output.
I don't think the Pegasus would be hotter than the 498T, TBH. More clarity, sure, but if anything, I'd say the 498T probably has the edge on output.
B00B-screamer
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Re: Sentient and Pegasus/nazgul for LP custom
Could something like the alt 8 make up for the sentient and then some? Clarity is nearly as important to output to me but I don’t want to sacrifice anymore than is absolutely necessary
Could something like the alt 8 make up for the sentient and then some? Clarity is nearly as important to output to me but I don’t want to sacrifice anymore than is absolutely necessary
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Ben1962
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Re: Sentient and Pegasus/nazgul for LP custom
Make up for the Sentient? You mean output wise? The Sentient is an awesome neck pickup to be sure. I have the Pegasus and the Naz and I would say normally I prefer the Pegasus. The Naz has an edge to it some may find "harsh". The Peg is a more even keeled pup, way more polite and versatile. The Nazgul can hit hard but its sharp like a razor. I still like the Naz way more than the Winter tho, only Duncan I just couldnt get along with
Ascension
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Re: Sentient and Pegasus/nazgul for LP custom
Alt 8 Sentient is right now my favorite set up. I'm running it in my Koa 93 Carvin DC127 hardtail. Can get REALLY nice and sweet but also can rip your face off. SUPER dynamic and versitile set up that has become my go to guitar.
Live clip sentient Alt through my Boogie Subway Rocket.
Alt 8 Sentient is right now my favorite set up. I'm running it in my Koa 93 Carvin DC127 hardtail. Can get REALLY nice and sweet but also can rip your face off. SUPER dynamic and versitile set up that has become my go to guitar.
Live clip sentient Alt through my Boogie Subway Rocket.
B00B-screamer
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Re: Sentient and Pegasus/nazgul for LP custom
Yeah I ment alt 8 bridge make up for the output lost by choosing something with the 59 custom or 58 whichever it’s called. I heard the alt 8 was a bit high heavy and unbalanced I was wanting something that could go from fender or box like cleans to metal, not like modern death metal with the screaming type bands but the buckethead type heavy. I have a set of black winters and in my lap custom they are so balanced it seems to make them sterile like not a ton of dynamics. It goes from nearly shrill on bridge pickup to completely muddy on the neck and with stuff like bends it has very little vocal quality and with anything like a boosted distortion it seems to make everything auto clip
Yeah I ment alt 8 bridge make up for the output lost by choosing something with the 59 custom or 58 whichever it’s called. I heard the alt 8 was a bit high heavy and unbalanced I was wanting something that could go from fender or box like cleans to metal, not like modern death metal with the screaming type bands but the buckethead type heavy. I have a set of black winters and in my lap custom they are so balanced it seems to make them sterile like not a ton of dynamics. It goes from nearly shrill on bridge pickup to completely muddy on the neck and with stuff like bends it has very little vocal quality and with anything like a boosted distortion it seems to make everything auto clip
Jeff_H
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Re: Sentient and Pegasus/nazgul for LP custom
Man, it's so hard to go wrong with a Custom in the bridge of an LP Custom, especially if you can get your hands on an 80's version of the SD Custom. There are always a couple on Reverb at any given time. The clarity of the Custom is superb.
Man, it's so hard to go wrong with a Custom in the bridge of an LP Custom, especially if you can get your hands on an 80's version of the SD Custom. There are always a couple on Reverb at any given time. The clarity of the Custom is superb.
B00B-screamer
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Re: Sentient and Pegasus/nazgul for LP custom
So a custom bridge and sentient in the neck would have enough output to be able to do smooth cleans (like thru a lot of processing and effects) as well as get good thrash’s tones and thick fuzz. When I think fuzz I think of that one hour song I don’t know the name it was their biggest hit and had unreal fuzz on it. I know I can’t have the best of both worlds but every guitarist tries.
And deciding between sentient and Pegasus for neck is hardest because I can’t get a consensus for one over the other, can’t just try them out and the sound clips on this website isn’t definitive because the setups can influence the tone dramatically
I really just want to maintain definition while doing distortion and have more playability on neck or bridge alone instead of both ends just being too extreme and like with my black winters it’s impossible to stack gain stages
So a custom bridge and sentient in the neck would have enough output to be able to do smooth cleans (like thru a lot of processing and effects) as well as get good thrash’s tones and thick fuzz. When I think fuzz I think of that one hour song I don’t know the name it was their biggest hit and had unreal fuzz on it. I know I can’t have the best of both worlds but every guitarist tries.
And deciding between sentient and Pegasus for neck is hardest because I can’t get a consensus for one over the other, can’t just try them out and the sound clips on this website isn’t definitive because the setups can influence the tone dramatically
I really just want to maintain definition while doing distortion and have more playability on neck or bridge alone instead of both ends just being too extreme and like with my black winters it’s impossible to stack gain stages
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B00B-screamer
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Re: Sentient and Pegasus/nazgul for LP custom
Would that combo still be able to pump out the gain on demand? Or would I need something like alt 8 in the bridge for that?
I’ve also been reading that you can order from the custom shop a 59/custom hybrid bridge and a 59/jazz neck but idk about how much gain I could get out of them
Would that combo still be able to pump out the gain on demand? Or would I need something like alt 8 in the bridge for that?
I’ve also been reading that you can order from the custom shop a 59/custom hybrid bridge and a 59/jazz neck but idk about how much gain I could get out of them
GreatGreen
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Re: Sentient and Pegasus/nazgul for LP custom
To me, the Nazgul doesn't sound good. It sounds like it's got a built in three quarter cocked wah. A very awkward, prominent upper-mid hump but without the benefit of the detailed treble that usually goes along with a sound like that.
The Sentient neck seems like a great pickup though.
To me, the Nazgul doesn't sound good. It sounds like it's got a built in three quarter cocked wah. A very awkward, prominent upper-mid hump but without the benefit of the detailed treble that usually goes along with a sound like that.
The Sentient neck seems like a great pickup though.
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B00B-screamer
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Re: Sentient and Pegasus/nazgul for LP custom
Im pretty sold on the sentient beck but bridge between 59 custom, 59 custom hybrid or alt 8 idk which will be able to coalesce with sentient best and still give me versatility clarity and gain for metal
Im pretty sold on the sentient beck but bridge between 59 custom, 59 custom hybrid or alt 8 idk which will be able to coalesce with sentient best and still give me versatility clarity and gain for metal
B00B-screamer
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Re: Sentient and Pegasus/nazgul for LP custom
It’s also worth mentioning my les Paul custom was made in those lean years where they used that composite resin fretboard instead of ebony or rosewood so idk how much that affects tone. I know it does some
It’s also worth mentioning my les Paul custom was made in those lean years where they used that composite resin fretboard instead of ebony or rosewood so idk how much that affects tone. I know it does some
GreatGreen
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Re: Sentient and Pegasus/nazgul for LP custom
Unfortunately I don't have the answers for you as I don't have experience with all those pickups.
I can tell you that the Custom, Alt 8, and Custom 5 all use the same winds but different magnets (which you can buy for like $5 a pop and then swap out as you like) so in this case, buying a Custom gives you some options.
For metal, the Custom will probably get you closer to what you want than the 59/Custom, as the regular Custom will have more mids and output.
I just bought a Custom 5 as I wanted to try basically a hot 59 pickup with good treble response and some mid scoop for clarity. 59/Custom is a bit too low output and scooped for chunky high gain in my opinion. Not that it can't do it, but there are better options I think.
For high gain, the Custom, Distortion, Black Winter, Custom 5 (with a decent boost), and maybe Pegasus are what you'll really want to look at. Sorry to give you more options, hah.
Unfortunately I don't have the answers for you as I don't have experience with all those pickups.
I can tell you that the Custom, Alt 8, and Custom 5 all use the same winds but different magnets (which you can buy for like $5 a pop and then swap out as you like) so in this case, buying a Custom gives you some options.
For metal, the Custom will probably get you closer to what you want than the 59/Custom, as the regular Custom will have more mids and output.
I just bought a Custom 5 as I wanted to try basically a hot 59 pickup with good treble response and some mid scoop for clarity. 59/Custom is a bit too low output and scooped for chunky high gain in my opinion. Not that it can't do it, but there are better options I think.
For high gain, the Custom, Distortion, Black Winter, Custom 5 (with a decent boost), and maybe Pegasus are what you'll really want to look at. Sorry to give you more options, hah.
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B00B-screamer
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Re: Sentient and Pegasus/nazgul for LP custom
Well it’s a really expensive guitar I don’t know about magnets it sounds easy but all I’ve done is change the strings I’m too unsure of myself to do much alone, maybe magnet swap if it’s near foolproof. I started off with custom 5 as my very first choice that’s the one you are referring to as the “regular custom” right?
All I can go by are the low:high:mid charts on the Seymour Duncan site and some of the clips are horrid for trying to settle on a tone cause they are just speed metal distortion tests and that’s lame for a tonality test.
I have black winters in it currently they are defined and tight but have no dynamics. That’s why I want to switch. I want to do metal but get some character from my vends instead of it being full and just shrill with no depth or dynamics.
I run it with a Hughes and kettner or orange head and a chase bliss brothers and if I try gain stacking it just screeches even with massive noise gate. The best way I can describe the black winters are just lifeless
Maybe it has something to do with my year les Paul (2011-2013) not sure having that weird resin composite fingerboard. I would have never bought it had I known they didn’t even use wood for the fingerboard
Well it’s a really expensive guitar I don’t know about magnets it sounds easy but all I’ve done is change the strings I’m too unsure of myself to do much alone, maybe magnet swap if it’s near foolproof. I started off with custom 5 as my very first choice that’s the one you are referring to as the “regular custom” right?
All I can go by are the low:high:mid charts on the Seymour Duncan site and some of the clips are horrid for trying to settle on a tone cause they are just speed metal distortion tests and that’s lame for a tonality test.
I have black winters in it currently they are defined and tight but have no dynamics. That’s why I want to switch. I want to do metal but get some character from my vends instead of it being full and just shrill with no depth or dynamics.
I run it with a Hughes and kettner or orange head and a chase bliss brothers and if I try gain stacking it just screeches even with massive noise gate. The best way I can describe the black winters are just lifeless
Maybe it has something to do with my year les Paul (2011-2013) not sure having that weird resin composite fingerboard. I would have never bought it had I known they didn’t even use wood for the fingerboard