Series wiring for pos. 2 and 4 with three single coils and 5 way switch
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ThreeChordWonder
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You'll need to use a superswitch but it's doable, I think.
ThreeChordWonder
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If the Schaller Megaswitch does or can do it, I expect there will be a circuit diagram on their website.
You wont be able to do it with a atandard 5-way because you need to control 3 pickup hots and 2 grounds.
Let me think about it.
You wont be able to do it with a atandard 5-way because you need to control 3 pickup hots and 2 grounds.
Let me think about it.
Blille
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I remembered the M did something similar but you lose the middle pickup (it become N+B in series like a tele 4th pos.) which is usually fine by me but not in this case.
Yeah, I didn’t think it was possible but I thought I’d ask since you guys come up with stuff unknown to me all the time
Edit: removed wrong info to avoid further confusion
Yeah, I didn’t think it was possible but I thought I’d ask since you guys come up with stuff unknown to me all the time
Edit: removed wrong info to avoid further confusion
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That sounds interesting. I have a 1982 'The Strat' that has a few series positions. It always seemed too thick for me, like running in wet boots.
beaubrummels
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It’s the S that does those positions.
Positions 2 and 4 are parallel in that top diagram. The S is a standard Strat switch, it doesn't do series in 2 and 4.
The M can do series in 2 and 4, but that will also make the middle position be the outside coils in series.
The problem is to put two different pickups in series, you have to move the ground of one to the hot of the other, so you need enough switch lugs to move at least 3 wires ().
The Armstrong diagram is an ingenious way to get there.
Blille
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You’re absolutely right, I clearly wasn’t paying attention.
This is the M wiring I was referring to earlier which I’ve used but like you said does not have the middle position.
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ThreeChordWonder
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This should work with a regular 5-way switch.
It works by controlling how the middle ground is connected. In P1 and P5 it's not connected at all, so the middle is dead. In P2 and P4 the middle ground connects to either the bridge or neck hots, respectively. In P3 is connected directly to ground.
Connecting the tone pots requires thinking about still. Easy enough with s Ingle tone pot Telecaster style, just connect it parallel to the volume pot. Two tone pots needs thinking about to prevent shorts, however.
It works by controlling how the middle ground is connected. In P1 and P5 it's not connected at all, so the middle is dead. In P2 and P4 the middle ground connects to either the bridge or neck hots, respectively. In P3 is connected directly to ground.
Connecting the tone pots requires thinking about still. Easy enough with s Ingle tone pot Telecaster style, just connect it parallel to the volume pot. Two tone pots needs thinking about to prevent shorts, however.
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Blille
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I guess the video mentioned by Clint 55 involves this ol' and clever wiring trick from Dan Armstrong. I leave it here for the record. More later maybe and if time permits...
This is great, it may just be the ticket.
For full info this is for a Bass VI kind of instrument. It’s cheap but the pickups to my surprise sound good. And I like the middle position best for bassy lines.
I don’t like the parallel sounds but I thought that doing some wiring to get them in series would really help to give a more bass like tone when necessary. Doing it with a pot it’s even better. It only has a tone control but I don’t mind giving it up for this functionality.
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Clint 55
OH THE DOUBLE THICK GLAZE!
^ That's good. You have a bass 6? I'm really liking mine. Although I used a 6 string bass but I put strings on for a bass 6 tuning. No switching between 2 fretboards to go between guitar and bass, it's great.
I like fat compressed sounds but switching from vintage strat to ultra beefy had me going :eek13:
I like fat compressed sounds but switching from vintage strat to ultra beefy had me going :eek13:
Blille
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I have one on loan I’ll be pulling the trigger on or get a new one if I find it cheap. Trying to get together the stuff I’ll be tweaking.
I have been playing guitar and bass forever, I can’t believe I haven’t tried this before. It’s so fun. Really it’s own thing. I really like 5 string basses and I’m loving my fretless but there are songs that would do better with a pick and that have a lot of sonic space to fill.
Didn’t know you had one. How do you use it?
I’m thinking of switching the D to be an octave higher. That way I focus the bottom two on bass and the rest on a tighter space for less muddy closer voicings. Then into my stomp for separate amps based on the register.
Or just play it as is because it’s awesome lol So far I’m playing You Don’t care about us by Placebo over and over and Pictures of You is next.
Blille
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Didn’t know, sorry! Not a problem on organ though?
Blille
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Good to hear.
Not yet! These days the only live playing I do is CCM with my local church. There is a lot of times where the bass sits out which I hope can give me freedom to play in the higher register. I currently do synthy sounds or chordal work, fretless fills etc but I think this will be more natural.
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