PFDarkside
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Wow, I know I’m behind the times on this, but these sound really cool! Very easy to drop them into a HH guitar. Who has tried them?
Seymour Duncan Psyclone - Filtertron in HB size
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PFDarkside
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That Cabronita double Psyclone above looks really cool.
ToneFiddler
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too bad AC/DC NEVER uses the neck PU!
the original jets where all (semi)Hollow which makes a huge difference. the really have a banjo sound quality to them unplugged. as far as i know the budget models are all solid.
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Artie
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I've only played with these for about 30 minutes, but I think that the neck pup is the sweetheart of the pair. Clear and evenly-voiced, with none of the boom or mud that's sometimes associated with a neck pup. This could be a great stand-alone neck pup for any application, if you don't mind it's cosmetics. (Relative to how it matches with a standard humbucker.)
The bridge is bright and twangy, but NOT ice-picky. I could do Tele style stuff with this no problem. It will take me some time to dial these in properly, but my initial impression is that these are a sweet alternative to some of the standard offerings. If you own multiple dual-humbucker guitars, these would be a nice addition to your stable.
The bridge is bright and twangy, but NOT ice-picky. I could do Tele style stuff with this no problem. It will take me some time to dial these in properly, but my initial impression is that these are a sweet alternative to some of the standard offerings. If you own multiple dual-humbucker guitars, these would be a nice addition to your stable.
PFDarkside
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Seems very cool, also the neck paired with a beefy Tele bridge could be fun as well!
freefrog
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Not surprised by your testimonial. If the Duncan staff has refined the already admirable Ray Butts design, the result must be interesting: Filter'Tron's have a very low inductance making them clear but cleverly take advantage of eddy currents to soften the tone....
And adding to them a "tone switch" with a 3.3nF cap (0.0033µ) gives access to P.A.F. sonic territory, FWIW. it makes FT's way more versatile than expected.
Artie
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Yeah. The neck Psyclone could be a perfect Tele neck pup. Then again, a pair in a dual-humbucker Tele could be sweet. :scratchch
Edit: I just realized, that's more or less what's being used in the OP's 1st video.
Not surprised by your testimonial. If the Duncan staff has refined the already admirable Ray Butts design, the result must be interesting: Filter'Tron's have a very low inductance making them clear but cleverly take advantage of eddy currents to soften the tone....
It's interesting that the Duncan version has the "slit" in the cover to break the eddy current path, but the original Gretsch's didn't. Then again, the Gretsch's are the infamous BHK's that Aceman was talking about in another thread.
And adding to them a "tone switch" with a 3.3nF cap (0.0033µ) gives access to P.A.F. sonic territory, FWIW. it makes FT's way more versatile than expected.
Do you mean, add a switch to select the standard cap and the .0033uf? Or a switch to add it in parallel? Not sure I've heard of this before.
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freefrog
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I was evoking the good old "tone switch" (a.k.a. "mud switch") mounted by Gretsch back in the days, but with a way lower capacitance switchable from hot to ground... It's mentioned in the point 9 of this page, for example: https://guitar.com/guides/diy-workshop/20-gretsch-top-tips/
With a low value cap, a tone pot wouldn't be really useful. Hence the interest to connect it to an on/off switch (which can be a push pull tone pot).
Apparently, TV Jones favors a 3.9nF cap for such things but IME, a 3.3nF works just fine...
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Artie
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Nice link. Thanks. Reading it now.
Edit: One of the cool things on that page is that they pointed out that Steven Stills used the Gretsch tone switch successfully on "Wooden Ships". Just listened to it. It's almost a sedated woman tone. Very interesting. I may need to play with this somehow without drilling holes in my Gretsch.
Edit: One of the cool things on that page is that they pointed out that Steven Stills used the Gretsch tone switch successfully on "Wooden Ships". Just listened to it. It's almost a sedated woman tone. Very interesting. I may need to play with this somehow without drilling holes in my Gretsch.
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That's one of my favorite tones of all time, too.
Artie
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I guess I can tack this question on here since it's about the Psyclones. The Duncan webpage lists two sets: The Vintage set, with both pups at 5.32k, and the "Hot" set, with both pups at 12.29k. My neck pup reads 6.94k and the bridge is 7.8k. That's a pretty big variance from either of those two sets. Neither the box, nor the wiring instructions, mention "vintage" or "hot" anywhere on it. Anyone know what might be going on here? Weird.
Edit: And once again, I answer my own question. There are three sets: Vintage, Hot, and "Humbucker-sized". I have the latter. But even those are listed as 7.2kn and 8.19kb. Off a little, but much closer.
I'd love to try a set of those "Hot's".
Edit: And once again, I answer my own question. There are three sets: Vintage, Hot, and "Humbucker-sized". I have the latter. But even those are listed as 7.2kn and 8.19kb. Off a little, but much closer.
I'd love to try a set of those "Hot's".
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ToneFiddler
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what do you mean the original didn’t have the slit?
that H shape cut out is the original ray butts filtertron cover. or what do you mean with slit?
ToneFiddler
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i don’t get why the humbucker sized ones have a higher DCR than the vintage normal sized ones? there definitely a hotter sound than vintage.
i my book a filtertron is around 4k. might try a psychlon vintage neck some day. that one seems legit
i my book a filtertron is around 4k. might try a psychlon vintage neck some day. that one seems legit
Artie
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