Seymour Quarter Pound Strat Set (SSL-4) and SRV tone !?

Re: Seymour Quarter Pound Strat Set (SSL-4) and SRV tone !?

The SRV #1 was a 59.......which is the typical vintage 6k approx wind you find with most sets aiming for accurate pickups. Most are chimey and bright.....with A5 rods - hence the Surfers being the more accurate. Of course surf music was played with the same sort of pickups too.
Its just with SRV - him turning up 6L6 Fender amps very loud, and with the tubscreamer adding mids, you have the 'thick but sparkling' tone he got.

Fender's stock singlecoils also do really well - Fat 50's or the 57/62's are pretty nice.
 
Re: Seymour Quarter Pound Strat Set (SSL-4) and SRV tone !?

AlexR said:
The SRV #1 was a 59.......which is the typical vintage 6k approx wind you find with most sets aiming for accurate pickups. Most are chimey and bright.....with A5 rods - hence the Surfers being the more accurate. Of course surf music was played with the same sort of pickups too.
Its just with SRV - him turning up 6L6 Fender amps very loud, and with the tubscreamer adding mids, you have the 'thick but sparkling' tone he got.

Fender's stock singlecoils also do really well - Fat 50's or the 57/62's are pretty nice.
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Thanks for the info Alex.

Now i wonder . . . why soes every one think that had had custom wound 'hotter' (than stock) pick ups ?
 
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SirJackdeFuzz said:
Thanks for the info Alex.

Now i wonder . . . why soes every one think that had had custom wound 'hotter' (than stock) pick ups ?
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I guess maybe some folks want to believe that there's some kind of secret gear that's key to sounding like him.
 
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SirJackdeFuzz said:
. . . fair enough.
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I don't want to be ugly or dismissive, but I've been guilty of swearing that somebody gets great tones because of a magic piece of gear or some sort of secret setiting that I can't get despite having the same or similar gear. It's been a knock to my ego for sure.
 
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SirJackdeFuzz said:
Thanks for the info Alex.

Now i wonder . . . why soes every one think that had had custom wound 'hotter' (than stock) pick ups ?
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I think there is a continual story of 'x player uses way less gain than you'd think'. In that its a really loud amp giving you the sustain, and the skill of the player wringing every nuance of the instrument/rig possible.

Later SRV is certainly more gainy/midsy than earlier for example. Texas Flood is the cleanest sounding album.......you really get that 'sustained clean' tone on that album.......where its hard to hear any obvious drive or saturation, but the notes have that softer attack and compression that overdrive gives you.
 
Re: Seymour Quarter Pound Strat Set (SSL-4) and SRV tone !?

SirJackdeFuzz said:
Thanks for the info Alex.

Now i wonder . . . why soes every one think that had had custom wound 'hotter' (than stock) pick ups ?
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I believe it's largely due to the hotter pickups used in his signature model
 
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chadd said:
I believe it's largely due to the hotter pickups used in his signature model
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. . . gotcha !

So . . . obviously, this begs the next question :

IF he never used hot pick ups . . . why put it in his sig Strats, that is suposed to be a dead, spot on copy, of his original(s) ?
 
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SirJackdeFuzz said:
IF he never used hot pick ups . . . why put it in his sig Strats, that is suposed to be a dead, spot on copy, of his original(s) ?
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My own answer is: "because Texas Special's under normal strings and through a normal cable = same output and middy response than SRV obtained from normal pickups under super thick strings, through high capacitance cables". :-)

Now, my usual contribution about cable capacitance:

https://www.thegearpage.net/board/index.php?threads/srvs-fave-guitar-cable.701683/

https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/joh...sar-diaz-srv-s-amp-tech-interesti-t12161.html

FWIW (= my 2 cents). :-)

Good luck in your tone quest!
 
Re: Seymour Quarter Pound Strat Set (SSL-4) and SRV tone !?

SirJackdeFuzz said:
. . . gotcha !

So . . . obviously, this begs the next question :

IF he never used hot pick ups . . . why put it in his sig Strats, that is suposed to be a dead, spot on copy, of his original(s) ?
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I think it isn't about what he used, it is about what will make people who buy it think like they can sound like him.
 
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freefrog said:
My own answer is: "because Texas Special's under normal strings and through a normal cable = same output and middy response than SRV obtained from normal pickups under super thick strings, through high capacitance cables". :-)

Now, my usual contribution about cable capacitance:

https://www.thegearpage.net/board/index.php?threads/srvs-fave-guitar-cable.701683/

https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/joh...sar-diaz-srv-s-amp-tech-interesti-t12161.html

FWIW (= my 2 cents). :-)

Good luck in your tone quest!
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And he did use HUGE strings 11's or 12's depending so that is a big factor. I need to talk to Perkins anyway as has been a while. Since Wayne and Steve were close friends will ask Wayne about his Pickups Wayne should know if they were hotter than normal at the least.
Mear mortals like most of us couldn't hang with 12's doing the stuff Stevie did so i would need a little hotter pickup to get close to his tone.
The Texas Hot Antiquities are not super hot at 6.3K Neck, 6.5K middle and 9.8K bridge but do have a unique voice that really nails that tone IMO!
Good excuse to post the song Wayne wrote as a tribute for Stevie all ways loved the tune
https://app.box.com/s/uytjgv80mx5oujl2i2uc

Info on the set.
https://www.seymourduncan.com/pickup/antiquity-texas-hot-strat-set?__uuid_ref=5ce46dd935c42
 
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Re: Seymour Quarter Pound Strat Set (SSL-4) and SRV tone !?

SirJackdeFuzz said:
. . . gotcha !

So . . . obviously, this begs the next question :

IF he never used hot pick ups . . . why put it in his sig Strats, that is suposed to be a dead, spot on copy, of his original(s) ?
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Because SRV, Texas and stuff
 
Re: Seymour Quarter Pound Strat Set (SSL-4) and SRV tone !?

Ascension said:
And he did use HUGE strings 11's or 12's depending so that is a big factor. I need to talk to Perkins anyway as has been a while. Since Wayne and Steve were close friends will ask Wayne about his Pickups Wayne should know if they were hotter than normal at the least.
Mear mortals like most of us couldn't hang with 12's doing the stuff Stevie did so i would need a little hotter pickup to get close to his tone.
The Texas Hot Antiquities are not super hot at 6.3K Neck, 6.5K middle and 9.8K bridge but do have a unique voice that really nails that tone IMO!
Good excuse to post the song Wayne wrote as a tribute for Stevie all ways loved the tune
https://app.box.com/s/uytjgv80mx5oujl2i2uc

Info on the set.
https://www.seymourduncan.com/pickup/antiquity-texas-hot-strat-set?__uuid_ref=5ce46dd935c42
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I thought he used 13's. (most of the time)
 
Re: Seymour Quarter Pound Strat Set (SSL-4) and SRV tone !?

He used 13's in his initial playing. By the time he was regularly gigging around Texas he had switched to 11's with a heavy bottom 3......his hands were getting too torn up
 
Re: Seymour Quarter Pound Strat Set (SSL-4) and SRV tone !?

AlexR said:
He used 13's in his initial playing. By the time he was regularly gigging around Texas he had switched to 11's with a heavy bottom 3......his hands were getting too torn up
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ahhh . . . understood . . . thanks ;)
 
Re: Seymour Quarter Pound Strat Set (SSL-4) and SRV tone !?

i dont even know if it was the bottom three. maybe just the low e was huge. 13, 15, 19, 28, 38, 58 is one thing ive heard which isnt very big except on the top and bottom
 
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