Single Noise Gate Pedal To Kill BOTH FX Loop AND Amp Noise at a Time

[zanshin777]

As far as I understand MXR Smart Gate and MXR Noise Clamp are either for amp or FX Loop.

I want a single noise gate pedal which kill both amp noise and FX Loop noise. Is there a noise gate to do that?

 

[DeadandBuried]

Re: Single Noise Gate Pedal To Kill BOTH FX Loop AND Amp Noise at a Time

ISP Decimator G-string is really good. Bit pricey but worth it. I use on in my chain, but that's for pedal noise, I've had the lead channel modded on my amp head to make it silent so I don't need a gate for that. Less leads and quicker set up.

 

[zanshin777]

Re: Single Noise Gate Pedal To Kill BOTH FX Loop AND Amp Noise at a Time

G-String looks like the best option.

But It has 4 jack input. Probably there will be mess of long cables.

 

[DeadandBuried]

Re: Single Noise Gate Pedal To Kill BOTH FX Loop AND Amp Noise at a Time

That's cos there's two ways you can use the pedal, in the FX loop or use the loop of the pedal (which is how I use mine).

If you're going to run it in the FX loop it'll silence the pre-amp noise anyway (I used to use mine this way before mine was modded).

 

[zanshin777]

Re: Single Noise Gate Pedal To Kill BOTH FX Loop AND Amp Noise at a Time

Actually when you use the other pedals (MXR Smart Gate and MXR Noise Clamp) in the FX Loop (at the end of the loop) they should kill the noises which originate from both FX Loop and preamp. Shouldn't they?

(Because they kill the noises which originate from the things before them. S,o preamp is before the FX Loop)

 

[DeadandBuried]

Re: Single Noise Gate Pedal To Kill BOTH FX Loop AND Amp Noise at a Time

Yeah before the amp, so you'd need 2 noisegates. That was what I originally had to do to curb pedal noise but I thought it'd make it easier to just mod the amp and have one gate. Much easier and makes setting up quicker. Not to mention less cables and things to go wrong!

 

[zanshin777]

Re: Single Noise Gate Pedal To Kill BOTH FX Loop AND Amp Noise at a Time

Yeah before the amp, so you'd need 2 noisegates. That was what I originally had to do to curb pedal noise but I thought it'd make it easier to just mod the amp and have one gate. Much easier and makes setting up quicker. Not to mention less cables and things to go wrong!

Sorry, I meant either of them. (Smart Gate or Noise Clamp)

 

[DeadandBuried]

Re: Single Noise Gate Pedal To Kill BOTH FX Loop AND Amp Noise at a Time

Yeah as long as they have a send and return input in the pedal.

 

[TwilightOdyssey]

Re: Single Noise Gate Pedal To Kill BOTH FX Loop AND Amp Noise at a Time

That's correct, assuming you are running all of your fx in the loop ... some sound better in front of the amp, which will drive up preamp noise. My Empress Heavy has a gate, which acts brilliantly. It really tames the oceanside noise levels!

 

[LuredMaul]

Re: Single Noise Gate Pedal To Kill BOTH FX Loop AND Amp Noise at a Time

Boss NS-2 does both....1 pedal.

 

[zanshin777]

Re: Single Noise Gate Pedal To Kill BOTH FX Loop AND Amp Noise at a Time

Then BOSS may be alright. Because there are huge price difference between BOSS and ISP.

I've watched the reviews. BOSS doesn't look like bad at all.

Besides It's said that noise clamp doesn't kill some amount of hiss and there may be problems at transition between distortion to clean.

 

[DeadandBuried]

Re: Single Noise Gate Pedal To Kill BOTH FX Loop AND Amp Noise at a Time

I have an NS-2 too and I think its the X-formation where you hook it up. And yeah you can experience issues when switching channels, hence why I forked out the extra for the ISP. Much better at doing what its meant to do without messing up your guitar sound.

 

[B2D]

Re: Single Noise Gate Pedal To Kill BOTH FX Loop AND Amp Noise at a Time

I generally do not use noise gates as I'll find other ways to control extraneous noise in my rig.

That being said, the ISP Noise suppressors are the only ones I'd ever consider using on a regular basis. They're very fast and very transparent.

 

[guitarSQUIRELL]

Re: Single Noise Gate Pedal To Kill BOTH FX Loop AND Amp Noise at a Time

Electro Harmonix Silencer works very well

 

[zanshin777]

Re: Single Noise Gate Pedal To Kill BOTH FX Loop AND Amp Noise at a Time

ISP Decimator G-string is really good. Bit pricey but worth it. I use on in my chain, but that's for pedal noise, I've had the lead channel modded on my amp head to make it silent so I don't need a gate for that. Less leads and quicker set up.

I think you use it wrong. I've heard that single ISP Decimator G String can kill both the noise in FX Loop and the amp.

Am I wrong?

Can ISP Decimator G String I do it like the G String II?

(I don't want to pay extra money for G String II if I can do that.)

 

[devastone]

Re: Single Noise Gate Pedal To Kill BOTH FX Loop AND Amp Noise at a Time

Yes, it should, you need to run the guitar signal from early in the chain to the input of the G-string so it is getting a pure signal from the guitar, then the dirt pedals and preamp in the loop, then the out to the effects in the loop. That will be cleanest way and it shouldn't chop off your signal on the clean channel.

 

[IMENATOR]

Re: Single Noise Gate Pedal To Kill BOTH FX Loop AND Amp Noise at a Time

What do you mean by FX loop noise? Can you explain what pedals you have and describe the noise issue? Maybe it is your amp's preamp section being noisy. Do you play always dirty or switch between clean and dirty?

The Decimator G-String is good for swtiching from clean to dirty and that is now the Boss NS-2 is also meant to work. Both have a loop itself so you plug the clean guitar into the pedal input to know when you are not playing and then shut the noise of whatever is in the pedal's loop, like pedals into the front end of an amp or both pedals infront and preamp. In theory putting time base FX pedal like delay/echo/reverb in the loop of the Decimator G-String will immediately be silenced when you stop playing the guitar, cutting the delay repeats or the reverb decay, that may be good or bad depending on what you are looking for. I have my echo pedal after my Decimator G-String and when I stop playing I can hear my delay repeats with no hum from my preamp.

 

[devastone]

Re: Single Noise Gate Pedal To Kill BOTH FX Loop AND Amp Noise at a Time

He's talking about preamp noise, and yes, you should have the gate before any effects in the loop. Basically I was trying to describe running it the same way it sounds like you are running yours.

FWIW, I run my dirt pedals in the loop of my NS-2 before my preamp, there isn't enough noise from the preamp to bother me.

 

[Gainstage]

Re: Single Noise Gate Pedal To Kill BOTH FX Loop AND Amp Noise at a Time

I hate noise gates only as a must resort, adjusted badly or too overt they can really kill your dynamics. So many good quality modern tech circuits around, so much better release and attack then they used to be.
I sort of think you pretty much get what you pay for these days. Easy buy on Sweetwater, zZounds or AMS 3,4 payments no credit qual, just FYI. I am up on ISP myself and the HUSH pro rack, Boss is not something I dig these days. As far as where to put, loop seems ideal technically but I have seen up front gates work very well depends what is causing the noise or the mere artifact of using uber gain levels.

 

[MrTondo]

Re: Single Noise Gate Pedal To Kill BOTH FX Loop AND Amp Noise at a Time

I have not tried it yet, but there is also always the Sentry noise gate by tc electronic. Seems pretty good at its job as well. I do have the older Nova dynamics, which also contains a noise gate, however I hardly ever use enough gain to need it as a noise gate (its also a compressor, which I use it for). The demos for the new sentry look cool if you would need a noise gate.