Slash pickup coil split?

[markd82]

Hello to everyone, first post in Seymour Duncan so here goes :1:

Very soon i will be buying a Steinberger Spirit Gt-Pro Deluxe (H-S-H),
and i would like to put in some decent pickups. I have thought about Slash Alnico 2 pro's, and then replacing the single coil for something that works nice with the Slash pickups.
As well as having the H-S-H config i would also like to have a push button volume pot (like on the S-1 Strats and Tele's) and have a S-S-S config, using the middle single coil and the two outer ones.

my questions are thus....

If i put in the Slash pickups, what single coil would best complement them?

Can the Slash pickups be coil split?

If not what Seymour Duncan pickups can be coil split to give a S-S-S coil split from a H-S-H config?

 

[Hartfeltmusic2010]

Re: Slash pickup coil split?

Hello this is my first post here as well. I think duncan makes a alnico 2 pro single coil that allot of people like. This would be a very good choice in my opinoin as it would blend in very well sound wise. Unless your looking for some specific sound.

 

[Hartfeltmusic2010]

Re: Slash pickup coil split?

I have a set of the slash pickups in my explorer I love em to death great set of buckers. They come with single conductor cable so I don't think you can coil tap them. Maybe try the regular alnoico 2 pros they are 4 conductor.

 

[AlexR]

Re: Slash pickup coil split?

Welcome, both of you!!

The Slash pups are a (slightly) hotter version of the AII pro. As mentioned they can be coil-split.

The A2pro is a fairly low output vintage humbucker. Slash uses a fairly highly driven Marshall to get his tone and sustain, so don't expect them to be great for lead unless you boost your signal somehow.

There are a few other pickups that give similar tone if you want a slightly different flavour.

Pearly Gates - The Billy Gibbons pup
The '59 - more like a 60's PAF with slightly higher output. Great for thick toned guitars as its scooped tone compensates for heavy mids
Jazz - not really like its name, pretty loud but can be bland in some guitars

OR, for an off-the-wall suggestion PATB-3, a PAF-toned pup with amazing tone and sustain. Modern looks don't agree with all guitars, but tone is to die for.

 

[markd82]

Re: Slash pickup coil split?

So... the Alnico II Pro Slash APH-2 has a single contact wire and cant be coil split... while the Alnico II Pro APH-1 has 4 contact wire's and can be coil split?

The Alnico II Pro Slash APH-2 is "Slightly hotter" than the Alnico II Pro APH-1...if i were to try both pickups would there be much difference between them? or would i get "Roughly" the same type of tone?

Also when id split the humbuckers into S-S-S, would there be any problems sound/tone/noise wise? or would it be ok?

 

[Christopher Caruana]

Re: Slash pickup coil split?

So... the Alnico II Pro Slash APH-2 has a single contact wire and cant be coil split... while the Alnico II Pro APH-1 has 4 contact wire's and can be coil split?

The Alnico II Pro Slash APH-2 is "Slightly hotter" than the Alnico II Pro APH-1...if i were to try both pickups would there be much difference between them? or would i get "Roughly" the same type of tone?

Also when id split the humbuckers into S-S-S, would there be any problems sound/tone/noise wise? or would it be ok?

Yes, the regular A2P and the slash A2P will give you 'roughly' the same tone. Ive read reviews from a lot of people on the new slash A2P's and some say they can only hear a little difference and some say they cant really hear any difference at all.

 

[markd82]

Re: Slash pickup coil split?

Thanks Christopher, im sure with what you said, and using my good ear (lol) i could probably get a Slash type tone with a few tweeks here and there (pedals/amp)
With the right single coil in the middle, and a good guitar tech to pop all the pickups in and wire'em up, i'll be well on the way to getting what im after (Fingers X'd)

 

[joelap]

Slash pickup coil split?

Im unsure what the slash pickups cost but I'd imagine they probably cost more than the A2Pro set would cost.

Honestly, I had A2Pro humbuckers in two les pauls and one schecter over the years. They are probably my favorite stock humbucker being made, especially in the neck position. I can't imagine you being unhappy with them especially if you are after the slash sound.

If you want to get adventurous, and what I am running in my les paul now and is my favorite humbucker sound PERIOD: take a Custom Custom and an alnico 2 pro humbucker, and take one coil from each and make a hybrid. That gives you a pickup that is half vintage, half modern, the perfect blend of power and tone in my opinion.

 

[King IzzO)))]

Re: Slash pickup coil split?

If you're going as far as building hybrids you could just wire in a 4 conductor lead on the slash pickups, it's not hard.

 

[WoodGrain67]

Re: Slash pickup coil split?

Welcome, both of you!!

The A2pro is a fairly low output vintage humbucker. Slash uses a fairly highly driven Marshall to get his tone and sustain, so don't expect them to be great for lead unless you boost your signal somehow.

There are a few other pickups that give similar tone if you want a slightly different flavour.

Pearly Gates - The Billy Gibbons pup
The '59 - more like a 60's PAF with slightly higher output. Great for thick toned guitars as its scooped tone compensates for heavy mids
Jazz - not really like its name, pretty loud but can be bland in some guitars

OR, for an off-the-wall suggestion PATB-3, a PAF-toned pup with amazing tone and sustain. Modern looks don't agree with all guitars, but tone is to die for.

Makes me wonder, if Slash got his tone using A2P's in a big Les Paul into a highly driven amp, what will A2P's sound like in a small box guitar like a Steinberger? Bad combo, or worth a try?

 

[AlexR]

Re: Slash pickup coil split?

Yeah, that would be interesting. I'm guessing a lot of the 'power' is due to 10lbs or so of mahogany and maple. A lot of those superstrats with thin necks and bodies either need a hot pickup or saturated gain as they don't have the full resonance of the body as a solid foundation.

 

[markd82]

Re: Slash pickup coil split?

Im not a real big trem user...but for my new years resolution, i thought
id better give it a go. So ive settled on the Steinberger purely as a practice/house guitar...(If all is well with reliabillity and tunning stabillity, i might use it as a main guitar at gigs, but i will need to have decent pickups...hence the want for some Seymour Duncans) and its tiny...its perfect for me noodling about on the sofa watching a bit of Tv.
Theres no head to knock or body to dent or scratch round the house, theres a trem, and it can be locked should i not want to use it...with the coil split i have in mind ill have a load of tonal options....For Me its a winning combo :1:

" what will A2P's sound like in a small box guitar like a Steinberger? Bad combo, or worth a try? "

.....Well not only am i going to try it...im gonna have them coil split to'boot...(Gulp!!!)

 

[icantbuyafender]

Re: Slash pickup coil split?

personally in my experience low out put pickups don't give a great single coil sound when split. Higher output pups seem to sound bettter when split.

I could be wrong or biased. I play humbuckers for a humbucker sound and P90s for a p90 sound as well as single coils for single coil sound. But I get what you mean as far as having the option for versatility.

 

[Dr.K]

Re: Slash pickup coil split?

Why not just wait until you get Steinberger and see if you like the pups? They could just be a pot or cap change away from something you like. It's like buying a new car you haven't driven and buying new tires when you don't know how the tires that are on the car even handle. Chances are you won't like the stock pups but at least then you'll have an idea as to the tone of the guitar, what you do and don't like about it and you can go from there. I know it's fun to dream about moding but just take it one step at a time. IMO

 

[pantothenic77]

Re: Slash pickup coil split?

Maybe ya'll could help me. I have A HSH setup with 5 way selector switch. I'm wanting to get the "Hot Rodded Humbucker™ ,SH-4 and SH-2 Set and a new S for middle. I know that they have 4 wire out for "trick switching" Is there a way to wire it to get the HSH and then just use one pickup from the humbucker to make it SSS like a strat? Maybe with a 10 way switch or a toggle switch?
I've heard of people using a switch to break the humbucker and us it as a single but never with a HSH setup.

1 - Neck H
2 - Neck & Middle H&S
3 - Middle Single coil
4 - Middle & Bridge H&S
5 - Bridge H

1 - Neck S
2 - Neck & Middle S/S
3 - Middle S
4 - Middle & Bridge S/S
5 - Bridge S
I've found the mega switch 5way. Would I be able to do this with that? if so Know of any wiring diagrams?