SLEEP tone on a budget.

[Maggot]

Re: SLEEP tone on a budget.

before i bought my green matamp, sunn model t and orange overdrive i used to get shockingly close with my 69 bassman and a modded DS-1

it's more about what you're playing than the gear you play with. Sleep's amps gave them special stoner powers because they were green and so is pot. Mystery solved. Go play music.

Are you crazy? You need 240 lbs of 15s. Rated at 2700 watts! Otherwise, it's not doom, it's dysphoria.

I can get a miniature Sleep sound plugged straight into my AOR 30 combo. And isn't it always a miniature Sleep sound if you're not Sleep?

 

[everdrone]

Re: SLEEP tone on a budget.

you have an orang e thunderverb 50 like me, it will get you there! thunderverb practice last night:



if you need legit sleep tone, then consider what you are wanting. you are prolly comparing to their album in your mind, and ya that is probably quad tracked and the bass guitar sounds amazing in it, so consider the bass guitar makes a huge difference in the sound.

 

[some_dude]

Re: SLEEP tone on a budget.

I'll point out that in 2013 Mat rocked a DSL, Dual Rectifier, and a Rockerverb on his side of the stage.

There's also a second Marshall w/ Orange 4x12 on Al's side of the stage. Not sure if it was for monitoring or if Al's bass was fed into it as well (it's mic'd). Either way, Al has a big, midrange heavy bass tone that provides thickness to Mats guitar. I think bass tones are typically overlooked by guitarists when they're trying to nail a particular sound.

 

[Big Flannel]

Re: SLEEP tone on a budget.

Hovercraft Dwarvenaut + CSE supernaut = Dopesmoker.

Trust me.

 

[Maggot]

Re: SLEEP tone on a budget.

TBH, the DSL, Dual Rec, Orange back line sounded almost comically huge. It didn't sound that much like the record. I agree that the bass is a large part of the sound.

The biggest part of the Sleep mystique is their willingness to go completely ecstatic with such a huge tone.

It sounds as good on the clips from Europe, where he's using Blackstar amps (presumably because he's not hauling several hundred pounds of amps across the Atlantic.

 

[the toad]

Re: SLEEP tone on a budget.

I don't have a pic but my buddy uses An old pair of the Kustom tuck and roll 4x15 bass towers (one wide x four tall, each)

Run thru a super lead with boost and fuzz.. Sounds epic.

 

[Maggot]

Re: SLEEP tone on a budget.

It goes without saying that having an attitude like Matt Pike will cause people listening to your music to rock out way more than having gear like Matt Pike. Dude just rocks!

 

[some_dude]

Re: SLEEP tone on a budget.

It goes without saying that having an attitude like Matt Pike will cause people listening to your music to rock out way more than having gear like Matt Pike. Dude just rocks!

That's what I was getting at.

Everyone wants the amp when the answer lay in the groove.

 

[SirJackdeFuzz]

Re: SLEEP tone on a budget.

Disclaimer . . . just to clarify . . . I am NOT looking for a Sleep tone for myself.

I am very happy with what i have.

This is a 'fun thread', just to see what everyone else recommends, if a question like this would pop up in a social conversation, say like in a pub with other like-minded buddies.

 

[Maggot]

Re: SLEEP tone on a budget.

It is a gear site after all, so there's no shame in talking about gear. But it seems like the secret Matt Pike doom ingredient is joy.

 

[King IzzO)))]

Re: SLEEP tone on a budget.

...and that wacky vibrato thing he does.

 

[SirJackdeFuzz]

Re: SLEEP tone on a budget.

...and that wacky vibrato thing he does.

Rather his vibrato as opposed to that bloody annoying 'every-two-second' thing that Zakk Wylde goes.

God it bugs the sh!te out of me !

 

[Maggot]

Re: SLEEP tone on a budget.

Here's how much of a "real" metalhead I am not. I've never listened to Zakk Wylde. I got a 4x12, though, so I'm somewhat practicing what I preach.

 

[King IzzO)))]

Re: SLEEP tone on a budget.

Ya, I have no idea what Zakk Wylde does. Well, other than pinch harmonics.

 

[Maggot]

Re: SLEEP tone on a budget.

I was rocking my Laney AOR 30 into my Fender 4x12 (the kind with g12t-100s) with a loud drummer yesterday. Plenty loud, but I need some more headroom to tighten up the low end. I'm gonna run a line out to my friend's Acoustic 150 next and hopefully I'll be good to go. Or maybe run the combo & the Acoustic head/cab in stereo.

 

[everdrone]

Re: SLEEP tone on a budget.

ya peeps dont realize 30 watts just is not enough for the full low midrange needed for heavy rock tones... you gotta compete with drumms and bass guitar and stuff; it will creep over everything with high frequencies but the low frequencies get drowned otu in most cases

 

[SirJackdeFuzz]

Re: SLEEP tone on a budget.

Ran my DbA Fuzz Warr into a LOUD clean tone from my 5150 (as clean as it gets) - i like what i heard !

 

[Maggot]

Re: SLEEP tone on a budget.

ya peeps dont realize 30 watts just is not enough for the full low midrange needed for heavy rock tones... you gotta compete with drumms and bass guitar and stuff; it will creep over everything with high frequencies but the low frequencies get drowned otu in most cases

It's not even 30 watts, it's 22. Both times I was playing with a loud drummer and no bass player. The problem isn't that you can't hear the low mids, it's that they're too smooth and they don't sound right. If the bass player had been there I might have been able to get by with cutting some of the low end. But under 50 doesn't cut it, and I know plenty of people who'd say that 50 doesn't cut it either.