Slide guitar tips

LukeGilmour

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So what can you guys tell me about slide?




i know you have to mute the strings with both hands, and i know you have to play almost at the end of the fret.

but still i need lots of practice!

can you guys give me some tips or excercises to do? (truth be told, im crazy about derek trucks style more than any....)


thanks!
 
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derek is awesome but you need to learn to crawl before you can run marathons.

pick a finger to put the slide on and get a slide that fits that finger well then work on intonation till you are ready to vomit.

if you do a search there are few slide tip threads. one maybe two weeks ago in this room
 
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I like open- E tuning!
Play the bass lines on the 3 fat strings & do your leads & talking on the the 3 skinny's.
Hit the strings all open then slam the bottleneck up to the 12th fret! Yowza!!!!
YouTube has tons O stuff..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRuDSNvcDzw
 
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derek is awesome but you need to learn to crawl before you can run marathons.

pick a finger to put the slide on and get a slide that fits that finger well then work on intonation till you are ready to vomit.

if you do a search there are few slide tip threads. one maybe two weeks ago in this room

what i like about him is that he doesnt play just the regular blues licks, but some kind of mixture with indian music.. that just blows me away

im working with intonation, as well as doing long distance "trips" =p

mostly playing with 1 string.

ill keep an eye on that
 
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I think the slide on your little finger works well, it leaves you three fingers to chord and play single notes. There is an issue of Guitar Player August 1994 that is a big slide issue. Maybe you can get it from their web site as a back issue?
 
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it's impossiblt to play slide well with low action. It has to be a higer than what most people are comfortable with. Thats why most guys have a separate guitar for sllide. I just keep my action as warren haynes says he keeps his: "A little too low for slide, and a little too high for regular playing".

Also experiment with different kinds of slide. Rule of thumb: Glass-warmer, Steel-Brighter. You can also experiment with different tunings. Open E is popular, open G, but don't ignore standard tuning.

My favorite thing about slide is that you can take pretty much any guitar and make it a good slide guitar. Find something old with a really fat neck, uncomfortably high action, and dark muddy pickups and you've found a winner for slide.
 
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As far as getting a slide that fits..... sometimes that can be hard. My "pocket" slide is a cheap Dunlop Pyrex that I have lined with velcro so it fits well. Slides in general sound best when the wall is thick. You will probably wind up with a lot of slides made from a lot of materials to experiment and see which works best for you. I have Porcelain, Ceramic, Glass, brass, copper and metal. My favorite store bought slide is a Dunlop Mudslide.

If you elect to dedicate a guitar to slide you should raise the action up as high as you can to comfortably be able to run the slide up & down without it bouncing off the frets, yet still be able to fret without killing your hand. I have my action on almost all my guitars pretty high. This is more from playing a lot of acoustic guitar then slide (I play more slide on acoustic). I also prefer to use heavier strings on my electrics that are setup for slide. I use 11's normally & 12's on my slide guitars. My acoustics have 13's on them. The heavier strings will give you better tone.

OPEN D (or E) & Open G (or A) are pretty much the go to tunings for slide...... of course you can play slide in standard but most people don't.


Now for me what really works from a picking point of view as well as a muting point of view is to pick with your fingers. My teacher called it the Spider crawl technique. Essentially you use 3 fingers of your picking hand. The thumb, index & middle finger. Most picking is done with the index finger & the thumb & middle are placed on the strings of either side of the string you are picking so you can mute them. this allows you to pick one note, then slide & only sound one note. In essence this claw approach moves in groups of 3 strings. Now of course you can pick with your middle & thumb also, but in most cases when you are picking the D or G strings the index finger is doing the picking. When you move this over to the bass side one string the thumb is resting on the E string & when you move it over to the treble side it is resting on the D string, so depending what string needs to be picked determines which finger to use.

Now muting behind the slide is also essential. you kind of have to feel where you need to place your finger behind the slide. Its a combination of the left hand fingers behind the slide as well as the right hand finger muting the strings as you pick them. Its a great technique that has worked wonders with my overall playing not just slide.

Don't forget to listen to great players & practice a lot....


A good thing to do is to seek out a teacher that will be able to point you in the right direction. It really will help you on your way. Also look at buying some videos. Warren Haynes or Arlen Roth videos are great training aids.
 
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There is a whole school of Indian slide players who play ragas on archtops with a steel bar...I've hear DT play lines from some mid-60's Coltrane too (one of the themes from Love Supreme). There's also Vietnamese slide...
 
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There is a whole school of Indian slide players who play ragas on archtops with a steel bar...I've hear DT play lines from some mid-60's Coltrane too (one of the themes from Love Supreme). There's also Vietnamese slide...


can you expand on that? one of the things i like most about DT is how he goes into hindustani music.

can you give me a few names?
 
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ali akbar khan
allaudin khan

are two sarod players who you should be able to find music from
 
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I progressed quite a bit when I started using open G. Things just fell into place for me.

another tip : keep the slide perpendicular to the fret board. That will keep double stops and chords in tune.

try picking out single notes, with the other strings muted, that will help develop technique. You will likely develop a better ear for scale notes, and eventually the micro tones that make slide expressive.
 
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i very seldom play more than three notes in a chord with slide, typically two. it adds plenty of color without filling up too much space.
 
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As far as getting a slide that fits..... sometimes that can be hard.

Not that I'm any great slide player (because I still suck) but when I found a slide that fit well and figured out which finger I preferred to have it on, things took a dramatic leap forward. My overall favorite slides are medicine bottles and the Latch Lake sliderites which are tapered and fit better then anything else I've tried. The bottles are lighter and I still have a bit more control with those...

http://www.latchlakemusic.com/

Higher action then normal, bigger strings... open tunings are good too.

The Coltrane tune that Derek often covers is Afro Blue... that kid was born with a slide fitted to his hand. Totally damaged! He tends to pick with his pointer & ring fingers more then his thumb which looks to be used more for muting. But I dunno. He's an alien or something...
 
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Higher action then normal, bigger strings... open tunings are good too.

The Coltrane tune that Derek often covers is Afro Blue... that kid was born with a slide fitted to his hand. Totally damaged! He tends to pick with his pointer & ring fingers more then his thumb which looks to be used more for muting. But I dunno. He's an alien or something...

afro blue is actually a mongo santamaria tune but coltrane made it 'famous'

i really like the bottle slides i get from the real bottlenecking company. they have options for colors, sizes, weights. i find some guitars sound better with heavier slides and some with medium weight one.

using derek as a template for learning to play slide is about the same as using sonny landreth or fretted playing using steve vai or andy timmons, huge mountain to climb. go back to elmore james or some bukka white and start there. thats what derek and duane did
 
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The best slide out there that I have used (as long as price is not an object are made in England. Diamond bottlenecks

here:

http://www.diamondbottlenecks.com/DB08/index.asp

They make some slides out of lead crystal. One of my teacher had one & I thought his slide tone was awesome. But as I said earlier, you need to experiment for a while and see what material, size, what finger and what tunings work best for you!
 
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using derek as a template for learning to play slide is about the same as using sonny landreth or fretted playing using steve vai or andy timmons, huge mountain to climb. go back to elmore james or some bukka white and start there. thats what derek and duane did

Yes indeed, but watching & trying to cop Derek's technique... how he's muting string & digging into notes... that's certainly a good move!
 
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