Vasshu the humanoid typhoon
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Re: SLO clone ?
It is not by much they are different...
It is not by much they are different...
SLO clone ?
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Dr.Mavashi
neonderthalotonalogist
Re: SLO clone ?
Rid,
Circuits might be similar but its not clone. To me 5150 is more of a wild beast, kind of like Invader vs. Fullshred. I think SLO is more of a defined, toward Engl like definition of the lows and more controlled not crazy mids. Allthoug they somewhat similar in terms gain type.
Rid,
Circuits might be similar but its not clone. To me 5150 is more of a wild beast, kind of like Invader vs. Fullshred. I think SLO is more of a defined, toward Engl like definition of the lows and more controlled not crazy mids. Allthoug they somewhat similar in terms gain type.
Vasshu the humanoid typhoon
Unseen
Re: SLO clone ?
Eddie was working with Soldano on an amp...then all the sudden Peavey was making that 5150...nah no clone
I am off to bed soon, maybe tommorow??
Everything out there is made from looking at something else....
Eddie was working with Soldano on an amp...then all the sudden Peavey was making that 5150...nah no clone
Aaaaarghhhh TC 19" stuff...lol Jolly have not messed with rackstuff in almost 15 years now
I am off to bed soon, maybe tommorow??
the guy who invented fire
Fuzzy. Guitars
Re: SLO clone ?
The 5150 is very much like an SLO...also the Yamaha T-100 (and T-50) will get some SCARY close SLO tones, they were also designed by Mike Soldano...if you want an SLO just save up and get an SLO but in a pinch both the 5150 and T-100 will get you vaery close to the same tones...trust me on both!
The 5150 is very much like an SLO...also the Yamaha T-100 (and T-50) will get some SCARY close SLO tones, they were also designed by Mike Soldano...if you want an SLO just save up and get an SLO but in a pinch both the 5150 and T-100 will get you vaery close to the same tones...trust me on both!
Dr.Mavashi
neonderthalotonalogist
Re: SLO clone ?
Ok ok ok ...... so what will give 5150 that SLO tightness and definition? TGWIF thanks for chipping man, if you don't mind can you comment in this one as well ?
https://forum.seymourduncan.com/showthread.php?t=115315
Thanks!
Ok ok ok ...... so what will give 5150 that SLO tightness and definition? TGWIF thanks for chipping man, if you don't mind can you comment in this one as well ?
https://forum.seymourduncan.com/showthread.php?t=115315
Thanks!
the guy who invented fire
Fuzzy. Guitars
Re: SLO clone ?
Let's say this bro...you are not gonna capture the tone of a killer amp Like a Soldano witih a PV but thats not to say at all that you can't get a great tone out of a PV amp. I know for sure than the 5150 is very much like the SLO...I woudl say get a 5150 and some great tubes and a killer speaker cab with great speakers in it...get it and spend some time tweaking it and I think you;d be pretty happy.
Let's say this bro...you are not gonna capture the tone of a killer amp Like a Soldano witih a PV but thats not to say at all that you can't get a great tone out of a PV amp. I know for sure than the 5150 is very much like the SLO...I woudl say get a 5150 and some great tubes and a killer speaker cab with great speakers in it...get it and spend some time tweaking it and I think you;d be pretty happy.
Gearjoneser
Gear Ho
Re: SLO clone ?
For the answer, see post 9.
For the answer, see post 9.
Dr.Mavashi
neonderthalotonalogist
Re: SLO clone ?
Allright Joneser, you win ... I've just listened to clips on MF - FANTASTIC. I would kill to run my beloved AOR with Avenger stereo into a 4X12, can you say METALLLLLL !!!!? :headbang:
J Moose
New member
Re: SLO clone ?
Yah.
Coming back from tape... in a recording perspective, there's VERY little difference between an SLO and 5150...
So little actually, that a lotta people can't pick them apart in a real time blind A/B. Might have the guitar split to 5-6 amp heads... all miked up and coming into the console on their own faders....playing wankin' away while the amps are blended together...
"There's the Boogie MkIII... that's the JCM800...the JTM45 & fulldrive combo right? Kool."
"Which is the 5150 & which is the Soldano????!?!!"
Been through that one A LOT!
HAHAHAHAHAHA
Personally, I don't like the 5150 all that much...Not my taste. Gain channel sounds like a swarm of angry bees IMO... crunch switch on the clean channel has MORE then enough gain & much 'bigger' midrange! Doesn't get swollowed alive by a raging rhythm section...
I'm not a huge fan of the SLO either...
Very much a 1-trick pony IMO. It's an EXPENSIVE trick too.
Yah.
Coming back from tape... in a recording perspective, there's VERY little difference between an SLO and 5150...
So little actually, that a lotta people can't pick them apart in a real time blind A/B. Might have the guitar split to 5-6 amp heads... all miked up and coming into the console on their own faders....playing wankin' away while the amps are blended together...
"There's the Boogie MkIII... that's the JCM800...the JTM45 & fulldrive combo right? Kool."
"Which is the 5150 & which is the Soldano????!?!!"
Been through that one A LOT!
HAHAHAHAHAHA
Personally, I don't like the 5150 all that much...Not my taste. Gain channel sounds like a swarm of angry bees IMO... crunch switch on the clean channel has MORE then enough gain & much 'bigger' midrange! Doesn't get swollowed alive by a raging rhythm section...
I'm not a huge fan of the SLO either...
Very much a 1-trick pony IMO. It's an EXPENSIVE trick too.
aleclee
Major General GAS
Re: SLO clone ?
Though I've owned a couple of Soldanos in addition to the Yamaha "clone", I think I'm done with 'em. I now value cleans and the Soldano designed amps I've owned were at best fair on the clean side. The way I liked to dial 'em in just didn't cut through in a band situation. (Don't jump me for this: I know a lot of pros used Soldanos with great effect but when I get a tone I like, it gets lost in the mix.) Finally, the FX loop was a piece of disappointment. I suspect that the way they buffer the loop makes for significant tone suck.
Even so, I really like the way they sound. The just don't meet my needs.
Not in my experience owning a HR50, Decatone, and T100. YMMV of course.
It's an RC network added to the feedback loop. I know I have the schem for a fixed depth mod in my library. Drop me an email if you want a copy.
Though I've owned a couple of Soldanos in addition to the Yamaha "clone", I think I'm done with 'em. I now value cleans and the Soldano designed amps I've owned were at best fair on the clean side. The way I liked to dial 'em in just didn't cut through in a band situation. (Don't jump me for this: I know a lot of pros used Soldanos with great effect but when I get a tone I like, it gets lost in the mix.) Finally, the FX loop was a piece of disappointment. I suspect that the way they buffer the loop makes for significant tone suck.
Even so, I really like the way they sound. The just don't meet my needs.
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Gearjoneser
Gear Ho
Re: SLO clone ?
Yeah, out of all the Soldanos I've tried, I have to say the Avenger was the one with the best range of dirty tones. It's the type of amp you'd crank, but control everything with your guitar's volume.
Finding a used one would be a nice score.
Yeah, out of all the Soldanos I've tried, I have to say the Avenger was the one with the best range of dirty tones. It's the type of amp you'd crank, but control everything with your guitar's volume.
Finding a used one would be a nice score.
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V!N
New member
Re: SLO clone ?
What Soldano calls "depth" is what somewhat different approach of what other companies call "resonance". It's a great way to tighten up the lows so they won't fart out on you. You could add one yourself to any amp in a matter of minutes or have the guy at your local guitar store or literally anybody you know who has ever soldered anything before do it for you.
There's no need to ship far or wait so long for such a tiny mod.
You'd sacrifice one of the speaker outputs to squeeze in an extra knob instead of drilling an unnecessary hole. Like I said, it would be such a shame to butcher up a perfectly fine amp.
- First, find the feedback resistor, this is the one connected between the presence pot and the output transformer, the 4Ω bit of it to be precise.
- Disconnect the wire between this resistor and the transformer at the resistor side and solder it to pin 3 of a 1M pot.
- Then, take a new bit of wire and solder it to the feedback resistor - where you just took the other wire from - the other end of this wire goes to pins 1 and 2 of the pot.
- Lastly, solder a 0.0047µF capacitor between pins 3 and 1 of the pot and you're done !
Or you could ask your friend with a soldering gun to put the presence/depth bit of the SLO circuit in the negative feedback loop of your amp, in blue in this schematic:
http://members.home.nl/vincenteisen/SD/Weber-Heather-pres-dept.gif
I still think the SLO clone you can get from Ted Weber would be the amp for you and I'm actually quite surprised to see the 5150 recommended here. Personally, I always loved the SLO, but couldn't stand the 5150 ..
What Soldano calls "depth" is what somewhat different approach of what other companies call "resonance". It's a great way to tighten up the lows so they won't fart out on you. You could add one yourself to any amp in a matter of minutes or have the guy at your local guitar store or literally anybody you know who has ever soldered anything before do it for you.
There's no need to ship far or wait so long for such a tiny mod.
You'd sacrifice one of the speaker outputs to squeeze in an extra knob instead of drilling an unnecessary hole. Like I said, it would be such a shame to butcher up a perfectly fine amp.
- First, find the feedback resistor, this is the one connected between the presence pot and the output transformer, the 4Ω bit of it to be precise.
- Disconnect the wire between this resistor and the transformer at the resistor side and solder it to pin 3 of a 1M pot.
- Then, take a new bit of wire and solder it to the feedback resistor - where you just took the other wire from - the other end of this wire goes to pins 1 and 2 of the pot.
- Lastly, solder a 0.0047µF capacitor between pins 3 and 1 of the pot and you're done !
Or you could ask your friend with a soldering gun to put the presence/depth bit of the SLO circuit in the negative feedback loop of your amp, in blue in this schematic:
http://members.home.nl/vincenteisen/SD/Weber-Heather-pres-dept.gif
I still think the SLO clone you can get from Ted Weber would be the amp for you and I'm actually quite surprised to see the 5150 recommended here. Personally, I always loved the SLO, but couldn't stand the 5150 ..
PUCKBOY99
Irish Flagologist
Re: SLO clone ?
Here's an Made in USA SP-77 Preamp for sale or trade......
http://www.thegearpage.net/board/showthread.php?t=269525
....$450.00.....SLO tone for $2500.00 less !!!
Here's an Made in USA SP-77 Preamp for sale or trade......
http://www.thegearpage.net/board/showthread.php?t=269525
....$450.00.....SLO tone for $2500.00 less !!!
Dr.Mavashi
neonderthalotonalogist
Re: SLO clone ?
GearJoneser, thanks man I will try to find a steal on avenger in the future, who knows maybe I will get lucky. Me likes SLO grain very much, me dont hear same grain in 5150, at all ......
VIN,
Cool man, I am thing of getting another AOR and do some mod to it so I could split into two AORs from my stereo chorus and than run them stere into my 4X12. Maybe it should be a depth mod to one of AORs ...
GearJoneser, thanks man I will try to find a steal on avenger in the future, who knows maybe I will get lucky. Me likes SLO grain very much, me dont hear same grain in 5150, at all ......
VIN,
Cool man, I am thing of getting another AOR and do some mod to it so I could split into two AORs from my stereo chorus and than run them stere into my 4X12. Maybe it should be a depth mod to one of AORs ...
Gearjoneser
Gear Ho
Re: SLO clone ?
Some of the best rock/metal tones I've heard are when you run an EL-34 amp like a Marshall or Laney in stereo with a Soldano. It's two amps that cover different parts of the spectrum = huge sound.
Some of the best rock/metal tones I've heard are when you run an EL-34 amp like a Marshall or Laney in stereo with a Soldano. It's two amps that cover different parts of the spectrum = huge sound.
Dr.Mavashi
neonderthalotonalogist
Re: SLO clone ?
Yeah, that's idealy what I would like to do as I am pretty happy with cleans that I get from my AOR from just swtiching to single coil in the neck, droping the guitar volume and stepping off on the TS. Ideally Avenger and AOR into a slanted 4X12 with V30s .....
