Smashing Pumpkins

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ericmeyer4 said:
For me I prefer the Adore and Machina tones. I think I'm probably the only one though....

Yep.

:laugh2:

But it's all cool. Different strokes and all.

But you're definitely wrong.

:bigthumb:
 
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wildstar said:
Yep.

:laugh2:

But it's all cool. Different strokes and all.

But you're definitely wrong.

:bigthumb:


Nope. I love the tones on Machina the most out of the Pumpkins albums. They sound too much like "The Smashing Pumpkins" on the other albums but on Machina, I mean, the fuzz is fuzzy and the drones just drone on and on. Although I've looked on YouTube for live stuff from that era though and the quality of it is so iffy that I can see how people can not like that tone.
 
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geeeeeeeeZ! and i thought john petrucci's rig was complicated! what the hell, is he trying to lauch the space shuttle with that thing.

+1,000,000,000,000 on the tone he got on gish. the first time i listened to that i was floored.
 
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I prefer the Big Muff into the JCM800 with the occasional Small Stone in the mix... THAT is the SP sound to me.
 
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I'm a casual SP fan. are you guys talking about billy or james iha?
I thought james iha played most of the guitar tracks in studio.
 
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rguser said:
I'm a casual SP fan. are you guys talking about billy or james iha?
I thought james iha played most of the guitar tracks in studio.

Billy did. It was even said that he had re-played certain parts on "Siamese Dream" because he didn't like the way James played them. I'm not sure whether this is true or not.
 
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I thought I read somewhere that Corgan re- recorded all the parts of both James and D'Arcy on Siamese Dream.
 
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cookie2j said:
I thought I read somewhere that Corgan re- recorded all the parts of both James and D'Arcy on Siamese Dream.

That was on Gish.



I wonder what gear Billy used on his solo project?
 
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ericmeyer4 said:
Wrong about?

Wrong about prefering the tone on Machina and Adore. I was being silly. Since you can't be wrong about an opinion, right? So by saying you were wrong for having a different opinion from mine, I thought it would be obvious that I was kidding around with you.

So to clarify, just kidding dude!

:bigthumb:
 
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wildstar said:
Wrong about prefering the tone on Machina and Adore. I was being silly. Since you can't be wrong about an opinion, right? So by saying you were wrong for having a different opinion from mine, I thought it would be obvious that I was kidding around with you.

So to clarify, just kidding dude!

:bigthumb:

I will admit you had me a little confused, but its all good. :banana:
 
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ericmeyer4 said:
I will admit you had me a little confused, but its all good. :banana:

Cool! I confuse myself quite a bit. :smack:

I think my favorite Pumpkins tune is Drown, from the Singles soundtrack. Do you guys think that song is a Gish reject or something bridging the gap between Gish and Siamese Dream?

That song really captures what was unique and cool and special about Pumpkins - IHMO!
 
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ericmeyer4 said:
On Gish I think he used an ADA MP-1 Preamp. It doesn't sound anything like a Big Muff to me.
Summer 1991, I got out of the Army, the guys in my band were raving about this "Smashing Pumpkins" band and I bought the record. That was one of THE big life changing records of my life. August or September of 91 they played an acoustic in store appearance, there were around 50-70 people there. After the show I talked to James and Billy about their rigs on the record. As we were talking, James was signing the back of my CD he wrote:

ADA Preamp
Quad Rex 50 l
James (triangle, triangle, triangle, triangle)

I can only assume he meant an ADA Preamp, and a Quadraplex. I have no idea what 50 l (that looks like a lower case cursive "L") means.

Billy signed:

"luis
san ?????
Eau Clair
Billy
1991

I talked about gear with Billy for a long time, but the only thing I remember was his gear was nearly identical to James' rig. It kind of struck me that no one was talking to Billy.

Around 5 years ago I recorded at Smart Studios. When I got there, the first thing I did was hit the bathroom. As I was peeing I thought to myself, "Kurt Cobain pissed in this toilet." As I was loading my gear into the big room of the studio I thought "the drums for Gish were recorded in this room."
 
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The Golden Boy said:
Summer 1991, I got out of the Army, the guys in my band were raving about this "Smashing Pumpkins" band and I bought the record. That was one of THE big life changing records of my life. August or September of 91 they played an acoustic in store appearance, there were around 50-70 people there. After the show I talked to James and Billy about their rigs on the record. As we were talking, James was signing the back of my CD he wrote:

It's experiences like these, both the magic of a life-changing album and the coolness of meeting the band before they're huge, that make life worth living.

That is SO cool.

I'd say that that's pretty firm evidence that it was an ADA for James, at least.

What do you think Drown was? Gish-era rig, or Siamese Dream-era gear?
 
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wildstar said:
I'd love to see Billy pull out his Big Muffs and JCMs and his Strats with Lace Sensors (when the f^*king hell did he switch to Gibsons?!?!?!?! How did I miss that?!?!?) and write 'em, play 'em, and sing 'em the way he was meant to.

Last I saw him he was playing a couple of Strat looking things (Fernandez?), a Washburn Dime (used the Floyd on a song or two), and I think a Flying V or something.
 
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screamingdaisy said:
Last I saw him he was playing a couple of Strat looking things (Fernandez?), a Washburn Dime (used the Floyd on a song or two), and I think a Flying V or something.

On his solo tour almost everysong he was using a Reverend with p90's in it and a Flying V on one song.
 
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ericmeyer4 said:
On his solo tour almost everysong he was using a Reverend with p90's in it and a Flying V on one song.

Yeah, he was switching two Reverends back and forth with his tech, Flying V on one song, but he did have a star shaped Dime guitar that he used the Floyd on pretty extensively.

billybudda.jpg
 
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screamingdaisy said:
Yeah, he was switching two Reverends back and forth with his tech, Flying V on one song, but he did have a star shaped Dime guitar that he used the Floyd on pretty extensively.

billybudda.jpg

Yeah he did! I forgot about that guitar. That was a really fun concert. The lighted backdrop was really cool.
 
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