So, What Is The Concensus On The Newer MIM Charvel San Dimas And Pro Mod?

[Myaccount876]

Re: So, What Is The Concensus On The Newer MIM Charvel San Dimas And Pro Mod?

^What are you on?

You're suspicious that the advertised OFR isn't an OFR because you didn't have the option of a different nut? OFR sets usually come with a R2 nut, and they choose the nut according to the nut width and string spacing for the neck. If the nut width is 1 5/8", it can only fit a R2 nut. For it is 1 11/16", you either use a R3 or R4, the R3 having the narrower string spacing. Those are the most common Floyd nut types (the R refers to being a right-handed nut. A L2 is the same nut specs, but left-handed). What makes you question if the string retainer bar is an OFR part. Your complaints here are just non-founded.

Veneers have always been paper-thin. That's the whole point of wood veneers: to get the appearance of a type of wood, without the cost or drawbacks of working the actual wood. There's nothing wrong with three-piece bodies either - they never even advertised the amount of wood pieces in the first place. Were you seriously expecting a one-piece body? Your re-finishing story also sounds like straight-up BS. Either you were using your mom's hair dryer, or there's no way it took you a week to remove a poly finish with a heat gun. You can completely strip old Epiphones in an hour with a heat gun, and THOSE guitars had THICK finishes. You also said the guitar sounds dead. What amp did you play it through, a Marshall Micro-Stack? Now before you go about saying how you played it through a bunch of super high-end gear and you've been playing for 40 years or some utter BS like that, why should we believe you. Your first post was an obvious troll post. What says your second post won't be a whopping pile of bovine feces?

 

[Shooter.556]

Re: So, What Is The Concensus On The Newer MIM Charvel San Dimas And Pro Mod?

I had an mim Jackson Dinky Pro and it was made well.
No where near as well made as my Ibanez RG Prestige but it was nice.
I just think they are a lot of money for a Mexican guitar with no case.
It wouldn't stop me from getting one, I just think that Fender has gotten a little out of control selling Mexican guitars for the same price American Fenders cost 5 years ago.

 

[JOLLY]

Re: So, What Is The Concensus On The Newer MIM Charvel San Dimas And Pro Mod?

That review means nothing to me. I own four of the Charvels now. That should tell you all something. Hell, I haven't even touched any of my Gibsons since I bought the Charvels.

 

[kramersteen]

Re: So, What Is The Concensus On The Newer MIM Charvel San Dimas And Pro Mod?

I haven't even touched any of my Gibsons since I bought the Charvels.

NO way not a gibson? haha imo its like comparing a harley to a huyabusa.

Sell them and get more charvels.

 

[BloodRose]

Re: So, What Is The Concensus On The Newer MIM Charvel San Dimas And Pro Mod?

back to the original question. Jolly, you have US ones and MIM ones now right? (IIRC, you don't have any of the Japanese stage ones,.) I know you love em all. What is your take on the MIM ones vs the US ones?

 

[JOLLY]

Re: So, What Is The Concensus On The Newer MIM Charvel San Dimas And Pro Mod?

back to the original question. Jolly, you have US ones and MIM ones now right? (IIRC, you don't have any of the Japanese stage ones,.) I know you love em all. What is your take on the MIM ones vs the US ones?

They're the same.

 

[BloodRose]

Re: So, What Is The Concensus On The Newer MIM Charvel San Dimas And Pro Mod?

Cool!! 'cept the recessed trem... Is the feel of the back of the neck any diff? Not shape but finish. (yeah know they arent finished per se') but the Japanese ones seemed to have more of a yellow tint than the first US batch and they had a slightly diff feel. Thanks for the reply

 

[JOLLY]

Re: So, What Is The Concensus On The Newer MIM Charvel San Dimas And Pro Mod?

Cool!! 'cept the recessed trem... Is the feel of the back of the neck any diff? Not shape but finish. (yeah know they arent finished per se') but the Japanese ones seemed to have more of a yellow tint than the first US batch and they had a slightly diff feel. Thanks for the reply

The necks are the same in feel and shape.

 

[AZRippster]

Re: So, What Is The Concensus On The Newer MIM Charvel San Dimas And Pro Mod?

You're suspicious that the advertised OFR isn't an OFR because you didn't have the option of a different nut? OFR sets usually come with a R2 nut, and they choose the nut according to the nut width and string spacing for the neck. If the nut width is 1 5/8", it can only fit a R2 nut. For it is 1 11/16", you either use a R3 or R4, the R3 having the narrower string spacing. Those are the most common Floyd nut types (the R refers to being a right-handed nut. A L2 is the same nut specs, but left-handed). What makes you question if the string retainer bar is an OFR part. Your complaints here are just non-founded.

Veneers have always been paper-thin. That's the whole point of wood veneers: to get the appearance of a type of wood, without the cost or drawbacks of working the actual wood. There's nothing wrong with three-piece bodies either - they never even advertised the amount of wood pieces in the first place. Were you seriously expecting a one-piece body? Your re-finishing story also sounds like straight-up BS. Either you were using your mom's hair dryer, or there's no way it took you a week to remove a poly finish with a heat gun. You can completely strip old Epiphones in an hour with a heat gun, and THOSE guitars had THICK finishes. You also said the guitar sounds dead. What amp did you play it through, a Marshall Micro-Stack? Now before you go about saying how you played it through a bunch of super high-end gear and you've been playing for 40 years or some utter BS like that, why should we believe you. Your first post was an obvious troll post. What says your second post won't be a whopping pile of bovine feces?

To begin with, personal attacks truly reflect the kind of person attacking. Wow, I'll leave it at that.

Most OFR do come with R2 nuts unless otherwise requested. This being a compound radius neck at 1 11/16" would require a different nut. That is why Floyd offers a multitude of nut sizes. Just check out their website. You can also pair whatever nut is required through other vendors like Warmoth with no up-charge. The use of an aftermarket nut was a cost savings for Charvel/Fender. That is all I was pointing out and kinda sketchy.

No, they did not say it was a 3-piece body, I agree, and that's why I didn't say they outright lied. Just a fuzzy truth.

Regarding the finish, you're correct in that it didn't take an entire week with the heat gun, and no, I used a commercial heat gun used for stripping (and I often use it for heat shrink as well). Being that I'm 49 and my mom is in her 70's, well, I don't need to defend myself. The entire process took a week. I may not have been clear about that, I apologize. I also work full time, so it was only my evenings that I had time to work on the guitar. I focused on using stripper in order to be sure to not remove wood unnecessarily. I used both Formby's and Klean Strip Aircraft Paint Stripper.

I played the guitar through my Marshall JVM 410 combo and a JCM 2000 half-stack with V30's I've modded with MM transformers, choke, and a couple other mods. I do have a MB Mark V, but I didn't try it through that.

Not sure what a troll post is, I'm not a big chatter on forums. I would rather spend my free time playing than pontificating. I only provided what I found after breaking the guitar down so that others had the facts. Obviously my "sounds dead" comment is truly subjective, however the other findings are fact.

Sorry for hurting your feelings, maybe some big boy pants are in order. Or, you actually work for Fender and this just ticked you off. Sorry, sometimes the truth or facts can be painful.

 

[Myaccount876]

Re: So, What Is The Concensus On The Newer MIM Charvel San Dimas And Pro Mod?

I'm not going to start a **** storm in Jolly's thread. Sorry Jolly.

 

[kramersteen]

Re: So, What Is The Concensus On The Newer MIM Charvel San Dimas And Pro Mod?

Being that I'm 49 and my mom is in her 70's, well, I don't need to defend myself.

HAhahahaha oh man thatks for the laugh.

Whats moms opinion on charvels and the state of your bedroom?

 

[JOLLY]

Re: So, What Is The Concensus On The Newer MIM Charvel San Dimas And Pro Mod?

In post #29, why am I quoted as saying that?

 

[kramersteen]

Re: So, What Is The Concensus On The Newer MIM Charvel San Dimas And Pro Mod?

In post #29, why am I quoted as saying that?

I thought that too. I looked at the post and your name for a good minute.

 

[AZRippster]

Re: So, What Is The Concensus On The Newer MIM Charvel San Dimas And Pro Mod?

My apologies Jolly, it has been corrected.

 

[JOLLY]

Re: So, What Is The Concensus On The Newer MIM Charvel San Dimas And Pro Mod?

No worries

 

[bob_the_builder]

Re: So, What Is The Concensus On The Newer MIM Charvel San Dimas And Pro Mod?

To begin with, personal attacks truly reflect the kind of person attacking. Wow, I'll leave it at that.

Most OFR do come with R2 nuts unless otherwise requested. This being a compound radius neck at 1 11/16" would require a different nut. That is why Floyd offers a multitude of nut sizes. Just check out their website. You can also pair whatever nut is required through other vendors like Warmoth with no up-charge. The use of an aftermarket nut was a cost savings for Charvel/Fender. That is all I was pointing out and kinda sketchy.

No, they did not say it was a 3-piece body, I agree, and that's why I didn't say they outright lied. Just a fuzzy truth.

Regarding the finish, you're correct in that it didn't take an entire week with the heat gun, and no, I used a commercial heat gun used for stripping (and I often use it for heat shrink as well). Being that I'm 49 and my mom is in her 70's, well, I don't need to defend myself. The entire process took a week. I may not have been clear about that, I apologize. I also work full time, so it was only my evenings that I had time to work on the guitar. I focused on using stripper in order to be sure to not remove wood unnecessarily. I used both Formby's and Klean Strip Aircraft Paint Stripper.

I played the guitar through my Marshall JVM 410 combo and a JCM 2000 half-stack with V30's I've modded with MM transformers, choke, and a couple other mods. I do have a MB Mark V, but I didn't try it through that.

Not sure what a troll post is, I'm not a big chatter on forums. I would rather spend my free time playing than pontificating. I only provided what I found after breaking the guitar down so that others had the facts. Obviously my "sounds dead" comment is truly subjective, however the other findings are fact.

Sorry for hurting your feelings, maybe some big boy pants are in order. Or, you actually work for Fender and this just ticked you off. Sorry, sometimes the truth or facts can be painful.

Interesting discussion...

I have an older MIA Charvel So-Cal from when they had the concurrent MIA and MIJ production. When I look at the finish from the right angle I can see the body seam through the paint where two pieces are glued.

I don't think most manufacturers tell you whether it's single piece vs glued. I think you are being a bit critical there.

For the floyd they use a Korean copy of the Made in Germany original floyd, which is only available to OEM manufacturers. Looking at the pdfs on the Floyd Rose web site they have different nuts listed for the Original Germany Floyd and the Korean copy.

So if you have the FRSO-2000 or whatever it's called it does seem to specify different nuts for whatever reasons.

 

[BleedingFingertips]

Re: So, What Is The Concensus On The Newer MIM Charvel San Dimas And Pro Mod?

I was that close to buy me a MIM Pro Mod with a humbucker and a single coil but making truss rod adjustments by unscrewing the neck is just retarded.

 

[Spudman]

Re: So, What Is The Concensus On The Newer MIM Charvel San Dimas And Pro Mod?

I just returned (exchanged) my Charvel Pro Mod. It played well, sounded good and looked nice. I had the black see through maple top. Heavy guitar weight wise.
I kept hearing a click when I would pick it up and play it. The tuning was always going slightly out. Finally figured out the neck mounting screws were not tight - seriously not tight. I tightened them as tight as acceptable, but the problem persisted. So I sent it back for a set neck guitar of the same price. Much happier now.