dzdandcunfsd
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If I said that, it would be an insult to homeless cats everywhere. I've never been one to get all OCD about soldering, or anything for that matter, if it works it works, onto the noise making.
So you think you can solder....
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If I said that, it would be an insult to homeless cats everywhere. I've never been one to get all OCD about soldering, or anything for that matter, if it works it works, onto the noise making.
Lewguitar
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Nonsense. The pickups need replacing. Some additional set up work needed. That's all.
Lewguitar
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That's something nice about used SE's. They're inexpensive enough that you might have $$$ left over to modify them to your own tastes. I bought four used SE Singlecuts and put Duncan Antiquity, 59 and Seth Lovers in three. Put different magnets in the stock Korean humbuckers in the fourth and gave it to a friend who needed it more than I did. I lucked out on some Seth Lovers that turned out to be double cream under the covers.
ErikH
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Ooooo, that's sharp, Lew. The double creams look awesome with that finish.
I had a PRS SE Singlecut Korina for a few years. I kept it stock for the longest time but then eventually put a set of DiMarzio Air Classics in it and changed out the nut. It was a great guitar. The build quality, electronics work and detail was seriously good. Couldn't believe it.
I had a PRS SE Singlecut Korina for a few years. I kept it stock for the longest time but then eventually put a set of DiMarzio Air Classics in it and changed out the nut. It was a great guitar. The build quality, electronics work and detail was seriously good. Couldn't believe it.
Lewguitar
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Thanks! That's my favorite look for a "Les Paul" style guitar.
By "quality" I wasn't referring to the fit and finish of body and neck. But just about everything else on the SE's that I've ever played was really bad...pickups, tuners, bridge, and not just "set up" work but serious fretwork needed as well. You'd need to put in another $300 to get it to where it should have been when it left the factory. For import guitars in the $600-1100 price range these should not be this "cheap". Buy a Schecter in this price range and you won't have to put in any more money and you'll have twice the guitar...right off the shelf!
Yes, the quality of the body, neck, fit and finish is great. That's what always attracts me to them. I really try hard to fall in love with them because everything that I SEE looks so appealing. But once I actually play them, it's over. I look elsewhere.
Lewguitar
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Hasn't been my experience. The bridge, tuners, fit, finish...everything except the pickups have been fine.
With one exception, every guitar I've ever owned has needed a set up and a little nut and fret touch up to get it to my own standards.
After 55 years of owning guitars, I'm used to it.
Only one that hasn't is a Rick Turner Model 1. The only perfect guitar I've ever owned.
I've owned four of the Singlecut SE's. All great guitars once I swapped the pickups for Duncans.
The two Custom 22's are PRS USA. The three Singlecuts are PRS Korea. All now have Duncan pickups.
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Browsing the SE's on Sweetwater, it seems that currently they are all Cor-TEK indonesian guitars with list around 1K. They have glue-on necks, six point trems, PRS branded tuners, plastic pickup rings, and PRS humbuckers.
If you compare that the other Indo and Korean models in the 1K range from Jackson, Schecter, and ESP, it does seem the PRS are lacking in "appointments". For instance with the aforementioned brands, you get neck through construction, 1000 series Floyds (or two point Gotoh), Groover tuners, and Seymour Duncan or EMG pickups.
I was going to disagree with GuitarDoc, but it does seem he makes a valid point. The hardware on the PRS SE (at least the current indo versions) do seem to be lacking in appointments. And in fact, for 1000-1200 you can still get Korean build models from Schecter and ESP. (doesn't necessarily mean better, but probably better resale.)
If I was paying 1000 for an SE, I would expect groover tuners, a 2 point trem, and Seymour Duncan pickups at a minimum.
If you compare that the other Indo and Korean models in the 1K range from Jackson, Schecter, and ESP, it does seem the PRS are lacking in "appointments". For instance with the aforementioned brands, you get neck through construction, 1000 series Floyds (or two point Gotoh), Groover tuners, and Seymour Duncan or EMG pickups.
I was going to disagree with GuitarDoc, but it does seem he makes a valid point. The hardware on the PRS SE (at least the current indo versions) do seem to be lacking in appointments. And in fact, for 1000-1200 you can still get Korean build models from Schecter and ESP. (doesn't necessarily mean better, but probably better resale.)
If I was paying 1000 for an SE, I would expect groover tuners, a 2 point trem, and Seymour Duncan pickups at a minimum.
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Lewguitar
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Anything I have to say about PRS SE guitars is in reference to the four Korean made Singlecuts I purchased used. None were more than $400 used. They were worth every penny.
Artie
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That's interesting. My two Cort guitars, (aka, Cor-TEK), are both very PRS-ish looking. I never made the connection before.
gotcha doc. and i agree with that to some extent. the tuners are fine but cheap, the bridge on mine is decent but mines older, not sure if they have changed. no idea what the stock pups were, i got mine with duncans already installed and ive swapped around a bunch. got a sns set in there now. its a great guitar that i didnt pay much for
If you purchased them used, then perhaps they already had some work done to them.
Either you've had really good luck or I've had really bad luck. All of my experience with SE's is with brand new not used...that may make a difference as well.
Lewguitar
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Boy....you just don't know when to quit. Do you?
Another example of what I'm talking about concerning quality is another thread here called...
stevie_bees
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It's funny, because when I learned to solder during my RAF trade training, it would all have to be like the OP picture, but when your Chief is yelling at you to get a radio back online, it's a case of 'Bigger the blob, better the job!' 
My soldering these days is purely practical, rather than pushing for any aesthetic value, but I can appreciate some quality wiring porn.
My soldering these days is purely practical, rather than pushing for any aesthetic value, but I can appreciate some quality wiring porn.
Is this because you don't agree with my statements? I was just making a comment/observation. Was my comment about previous owners possibly doing some work on their guitars before you acquired them not applicable? It does happen. Besides, I could have made the same statement about you not knowing when to quit.
Are we limited to only a certain number of posts per thread? And then we're supposed to quit? I didn't know that. Give me the number and I'll seriously try to stay within the limit next time.
Oh crap! I just made one more post and I'm already over the limit. Darn! I guess you're right Lew.
Sorry guys.
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