Squier didn't exist in 1997.

astrozombie

astrozombie

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Apparently.

http://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/msg/1475212013.html

"It says Squier but there is nothing Squier about it, this guitar has ALL FENDER PARTS. Squier was not an actual company in 97', fender started by putting the name on their Mexi strats just to try it out. Ive had it cleaned electronically, and Ive babied it, if you have owned an actual Fender strat before you will see that this is the real deal. There are no issues with it AT ALL! I have 2 tele's now so I dont need this one, I dont have the room for it anymore. If you have questions just let me know. "

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Re: Squier didn't exist in 1997.

275 for a Korean Squier? Nah...I'd pay 2 bills TOPS for it, and that's pushing the limit. But if people want to walk around this earth ignorant and uneducated, or to just make up bull**** and spew it everywhere, that's their prerogative.
 
Re: Squier didn't exist in 1997.

I just got a 1998 neck with a Squier label.

Does that mean it's a MIM?
 
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astrozombie said:
Dip's right.

I have no idea. I'm calling BS.
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No, it's actually a Squier Series MIM Fender Strat. But the Squier name on it takes the value down a bit. $275 for a MIM Strat is fair, but the Squier Series on the headstock will knock $100 off.
 
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And Squier still isn't an actual company. It's just Fender's import line. :D
 
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astrozombie said:
So it's an actual fender? Whoa!
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In the same way that an Epiphone is an actual Gibson. Parent companies have lots of brands and products they have manufactured in different factories, different countries, under different names. The term "actual", is relative and means very little.
 
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Those Squiers (the ones made in Mexico) are the same wood as the Fender MIM Strats. They just had Squier hardware and pickups on them. Very solid guitars.

That dude is a duffus for putting an ad up like that.
 
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astrozombie said:
So it's an actual fender? Whoa!
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ErikH said:
Those Squiers (the ones made in Mexico) are the same wood as the Fender MIM Strats. They just had Squier hardware and pickups on them. Very solid guitars.
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That blue thing is an early MIM Stratocaster, using all of the same ingredients as early Fender-badged MIM instruments of the period. The wood was shaped in Mexico. The tuners, vibrato and pickups are sourced from SE Asia.

This labelling confusion has happened before. I have a bitsacaster with the neck from a late Eighties System One Squier Stratocaster. A friend of mine has an identical neck from an identical Sys1 model Stratocaster EXCEPT his has a Fender decal.

Some MIK Standard Telecasters - top-loader bridge, custard yellow Blonde finish - that I have seen had Squier logos. Others had small Fender logos.

As for a valuation, I agree with Beandip. $2.75!
 
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Quite frankly I wouldn't care if it had Fender on the headstock or Squire, I've yet to play a a MIM fender worth paying money for.
Now and old MIJ squire... now that's a different matter :)
 
Re: Squier didn't exist in 1997.

ErikH said:
Those Squiers (the ones made in Mexico) are the same wood as the Fender MIM Strats. They just had Squier hardware and pickups on them. Very solid guitars.

That dude is a duffus for putting an ad up like that.
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i have one of the MIM Squiers from the mid 90's... i traded the hardware for MIM Standard spec stuff that a local tech sold me for cheap... some guy had a MIM strat outfitted with an American Bridge and Vintage tuners just because he liked the colour it came in...

not the best MIM strat i own but for the few bucks it cost me it is not bad either
 
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I've seen a white Jazz Bass, a silver Strat and a black Strat all early-mid '90s that had black Fender logo with the full model name (i.e. "Stratocaster" instead of "Strat") with Squier Series where "Original body contour" would be on an American Strat in slightly larger font. All of them played and sounded as good as any '90s MIM Fender I've played.
 
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theboatcandream said:
I thought Squires are made with the same kinds of wood as Fenders? The same isn't true for Epiphone when compared to Gibson.
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I think you've got that backwards. I've seen plenty of Squiers that are made out of plywood, where the Epiphones (at least, the set-neck, $300+ models, not counting the $100-ish specials) are made out of Mahogany like the Gibsons.
 
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dominus said:
I think you've got that backwards. I've seen plenty of Squiers that are made out of plywood, where the Epiphones (at least, the set-neck, $300+ models, not counting the $100-ish specials) are made out of Mahogany like the Gibsons.
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I've owned four Epiphones. I refinished three of them. On the two "expensive" models (a 7 string les paul and a "korina" explorer), both had maple necks. And the bodies were either sapelle or philippine mahogany with what's probably alder for the cap on the les paul.

I've seen Gibsons with maple necks, but they're all from the Norlin era.

I can believe that Squire bodies are multi-piece, but aren't they at least alder? Alder+Maple Neck = Fender woods...
 
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