steinberger gearless 40:1 ratio tuners!

[ksmith63]

http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Tuners/Guitar,_solid_peghead/Steinberger_Gearless_Tuners.html

seems kinda cool, but can you realy justify spending $100+ on a set of guitar tuners?

opinions, comments?

 

[Zerberus]

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IMO overkill, same as the LSR Tuners made popular by Dave Mustaine among others....

Haven´t used either, so I may be wrong, but with that fine a ration you´re just unnecessarily tiring out your wrist IMO, especially since neither will work with a crank ....

 

[aleclee]

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but can you realy justify spending $100+ on a set of guitar tuners?

I could, but not on anything that friggin' ugly. At least LSRs look kinda cool.

 

[Colma]

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ew..gross

 

[Scott_F]

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Hey, if you buy three sets, they're only 90 a set!

 

[theodie]

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I have a set of LSR tuners that are going to go on my Purplecatser when ever I get around to throwing a finish on that guitar. When I mocked everything up before I started prepping it for finishing, they seem like I am going to like them a whole lot!!! I will give a review when it is fully operational.

 

[That90'sGuy]

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Well, a higher gear ratio just means that the string pitch will be changing with every little turn of the gear (which is why low ones sometimes take 3/4 of a turn to get it up a little bit and even then, it's brought up too high), right?

I think they're a great idea; I'd just like to see them look like a normal tuner. I've had good luck with both Sperzel and Gotoh locking tuners, but I have to admit I'm intrigued by stuff like the Planet Waves and Steinbergers. These sound like the perfect tuners to really take advantage of strobe tuning. I hate having to tune back and forth to get it to slide just right to get "perfectly" in tune (and even then, is it ever truly "perfect" .

 

[Loserchief]

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the idea is quite cool and there are some headstocks that even look better without normal mechanic-knobs(B.C Rich beast headstock imo) but 100$ is way to much,that's not worth it.

 

[pac112]

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they look cool! but the gear ratio means you have to wind and wind and wind right?

 

[Loserchief]

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no, it menas you need fewer turns to get the same amount of change to the pitch of the string than with lower ratios.

 

[pac112]

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oppps. thanks chief. even better!

 

[Artie]

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no, it menas you need fewer turns to get the same amount of change to the pitch of the string than with lower ratios.

Actually, I think you have this backwards. 40:1 means that it takes 40 turns of the handle to equal one turn of the string peg. A typical tuner would take maybe 18 turns of the handle to one of the string peg.

The whole point of the device is "fine" tuning. Of course, you'ld need to ensure that the string would actually move that minute amount through the nut for it to be effective. Nut Sauce maybe?

 

[Zerberus]

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no, it menas you need fewer turns to get the same amount of change to the pitch of the string than with lower ratios.

Sorry, I have to Disagree 100%......Gear ratios are stated as turns needed to turnd achieved....

A "vintage" 15:1 gear ratio means you turn 15 times, the post turns once.... an 18:1 gratio is already an improvment, but you have to turn 3x more (18x) ti get the post turned one full time... 40:1 means 40 turns on the key =1 turn on the post...

The ratio you´re speaking of would be 1:40, pac is correct.

 

[That90'sGuy]

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Thanks for straightening me out Zerb and Pac. I always hated how you'd turn the tuners only the pitch wouldn't change right away and when it does, it changes too much. So what would be best to resolve this issue?

 

[Zerberus]

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Thanks for straightening me out Zerb and Pac. I always hated how you'd turn the tuners only the pitch wouldn't change right away and when it does, it changes too much. So what would be best to resolve this issue?

Tuners with a finer ratio, such as Grover Rotomatic 18:1, Sperzels, the steinbergers ot the LSRs.. There IS definitely a merit to these things, I don´t question that... only the practicality

But as R2 said, without a good nut, you can have the best tuners in the world on there and it´ll still not tune to save it´s life ... pretty smart some of these droids :beerchug:

 

[aleclee]

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Thanks for straightening me out Zerb and Pac. I always hated how you'd turn the tuners only the pitch wouldn't change right away and when it does, it changes too much. So what would be best to resolve this issue?

Big Bends Nut Sauce will help keep the string from binding in the nut.

 

[Zerberus]

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Disclaimer: Unless the nut is improperly cut ... conversely, IMO a properly cut nut really needs no extra lubrication to stay in tune

 

[theodie]

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Disclaimer: Unless the nut is improperly cut ... conversely, IMO a properly cut nut really needs no extra lubrication to stay in tune

I couldnt agree more!!! Its the truth!!!

 

[pac112]

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I couldnt agree more!!! Its the truth!!!

yeah.. cut the nut ! cut the nut !

 

[Rich_T]

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Disclaimer: Unless the nut is improperly cut ... conversely, IMO a properly cut nut really needs no extra lubrication to stay in tune

Will the nut lube stuff cut down the wear if you use the trem alot?