stereo amps

rainsong86

rainsong86

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is it possible for a single amplifier to have left and right effects?

I have a Marshall MG250dfx which is basically 2 50 watt amps built into one cabinet.. it comes in a 2x12 combo with each of the 50 watt solid state amps pushing a 12 inch Celestian speaker.. the effects are stereo in the sense that one side will be the dry signal and the other will be the wet signal.. I noticed this because I connected one of the amps to the 12's built into the cab (in parallel) and the other amp to a 4x12 cab on the other side of the room.. in this setup the reverb and delay effects only rang out on the RIGHT amp, in this case the 4 by 12

back to the initial question.. I'd like a tube amp (preferably just a single channel master volume tube amp with at least 45 watts and great fender or vox cleans) which will allow me to utilize stereo effects such as ping-pong delay and panning.. is it absolutely necessary to have two separate amplifiers to achieve this?.. or is it just a matter of having left and right effects loop returns?
 
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rainsong86 said:
is it possible for a single amplifier to have left and right effects?

I have a Marshall MG250dfx which is basically 2 50 watt amps built into one cabinet.. it comes in a 2x12 combo with each of the 50 watt solid state amps pushing a 12 inch Celestian speaker.. the effects are stereo in the sense that one side will be the dry signal and the other will be the wet signal.. I noticed this because I connected one of the amps to the 12's built into the cab (in parallel) and the other amp to a 4x12 cab on the other side of the room.. in this setup the reverb and delay effects only rang out on the RIGHT amp, in this case the 4 by 12

back to the initial question.. I'd like a tube amp (preferably just a single channel master volume tube amp with at least 45 watts and great fender or vox cleans) which will allow me to utilize stereo effects such as ping-pong delay and panning.. is it absolutely necessary to have two separate amplifiers to achieve this?.. or is it just a matter of having left and right effects loop returns?
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I think the easiest sollution will be to have 2 tube amps running in stereo and feed them stereo fx's.....

I love stereo amps myself... For Practices and a few jams I still use a few older 90's era Fender SS Stereo Chorus amps myself.... and i want a mid 90's Stereo Marshall Valvestate

But the truth is most Stereo rigs are for the player to listen to... Not many stereo rigs will sound good out to the PA... Some sound great but others get lost in the mix... Plus you will need more mic's to play with and have a soundman that knows how to mix the 2 amps...
 
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good suggestions guys.. although I do like those red-knobbed Fender SS amps and I have gotten good sounds out of a Vox AD120, I'd really prefer a stereo tube amp which takes well to overdrive and Distortion pedals (is there such a thing?).. I'll be using an Axess GRX-4 to control an Ibanez tubescreamer and Boss MT-2 Metal zone (as well as chorus and delay effects) in front of it.. also the gigs I'm playing (bars and small venues) only have vocals going through the PA.. I've never dealt with micing my cabs.. although I'm sure anyone can figure out to put one channel for the left sound and one channel for the right sound to keep that stereo effect.. one extra mic isn't all that bad
 
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Ask Stratdeluxer how his AD120VTH takes pedals. It does have tubes, but only 12AX7 tubes. They split the tubes on both the input and the output. This helps make the amp feel and sound like a tube amp. You just have to plug into the low input jack (I don't know why they have the high sensitivity jack as it's nearly unusable). The AD120VTH is even better with good OD pedals in front.
 
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wow.. I love AC30 cleans.. I'm an even bigger fan of the top boost.. I'm pretty sure Vox did justice to model those two tones.. I should seriously look into that amp.. so you say it has a tube-buffered stereo effects loop?.. or jus the pre-amp is part (or completely??) 12ax7 and it has SS power amp?
 
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rainsong86 said:
good suggestions guys.. although I do like those red-knobbed Fender SS amps and I have gotten good sounds out of a Vox AD120, I'd really prefer a stereo tube amp which takes well to overdrive and Distortion pedals (is there such a thing?).. I'll be using an Axess GRX-4 to control an Ibanez tubescreamer and Boss MT-2 Metal zone (as well as chorus and delay effects) in front of it.. also the gigs I'm playing (bars and small venues) only have vocals going through the PA.. I've never dealt with micing my cabs.. although I'm sure anyone can figure out to put one channel for the left sound and one channel for the right sound to keep that stereo effect.. one extra mic isn't all that bad
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some of those SS Fender amps can sound great...,, but ya it depends on the Model, year, and what type of music you are playing..... For fuzzy Distortion they are pretty cool.... I use them basicly only for fun jamming or home practices... lots of gain in them for quiet practices..... my new-(bought used) Ultimate Chorus that has a large power amp is cool for some band practices.... but it can be gut-less if you have a loud drummer and bassist... I'd never use them for gigs.... i have better amps for that...

Only true stereo tube amps i've seen are Rack Systems.....

Running 2 tubes amps together could be the best bet.... i love doing that... You can use different fx in each amps fx loop... but you will have to buy a good ABY box that lifts or sheilds the ground noise when running 2 amps together.... Frampton Tone pedals or Raidial make some quality a/b/y pedals... I am going to get one of these pedals soon.... the cheap A/B boxes don't cut it
 
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actually.. I'm searching for a stereo amp for the lead singer/rhthym guitarist of my band.. I'm actually running a mesa roadster half stack but he agreed that if he got a stereo amp that he would let me play through one of the sides.. so I have to worry about order of effects because if he turns on a bunch of effects in a patch in his new AD120vth then it might color the sound of my signal as well.. so I have to hope that the signal isn't affected after the "effects return left/right".. to be more specific I'll be running the left output of a Boss GT-8 to the effects return of my boogie and the right output to either Left or Right of a stereo head/combo.. I have the boogie pre-amp in the effects loop of the Boss (so that I can place effects in any order in front of/behind the distortion) so I will actually be hearing a mesa rectifier pre-amp through whatever amp I get him

ehh.. he was the one who kept pushing for stereo effects.. he's not that experienced with guitar gear so he instantly had this "whoa!" look on his face when he heard my ping pong delay going back and forth across the room
 
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