Stratocaster sustain question

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It sounds like maybe you've convinced yourself that gibsons have superior construction. I don't really understand what's wrong with your guitar, and you're not providing anything other than "I like my set necks better". :question:
 
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Adding a brass block would improve the sustain...can you upload pics of the current bridge and setup?
 
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My Squier Affinity Strat body has plenty of sustain with 10-46 strings. I suspect it was made from a particularly good piece of wood. It could simply be the piece of wood yours is made from.
 
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My Squier Affinity Strat body has plenty of sustain with 10-46 strings. I suspect it was made from a particularly good piece of wood. It could simply be the piece of wood yours is made from.

Yea I hope not.
 
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Gonna go by the shop and try out allot of different strats Mexicans and Americans, in all price ranges and test out sustain. Should be a nice litle experiment..
 
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I tighten the springs all the way in so the bridge is flat. What setup do you mean?

I would say tightening all the way is not what I would recommend. By setup I mean how close to the body, how many springs...so pics of the front and back.

Here are some good tips on setting up a Strat:


 
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Gonna go by the shop and try out allot of different strats Mexicans and Americans, in all price ranges and test out sustain. Should be a nice litle experiment..
That's a good idea. It may help to compare a few.
 
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I would say tightening all the way is not what I would recommend. By setup I mean how close to the body, how many springs...so pics of the front and back.

Here are some good tips on setting up a Strat:



The bridge is flat, all the way down, 3 springs. I dont use the trem arm thats why I made it flat.
 
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Our Lord and Savior Scott Grove says bolt ons sustain better

 
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Whys that? Ive heard nothing but good from the special line from fender.

It's not that they aren't "good". It's just...that's the cost cutting line of the Fender American brand.

Those guitars are made to the same standards as the Mexican Strats which are made of wooden boards that are glued together to make a rectangle and then the bodies are cut from that. On a good day, those guitar bodies are around 5 or 6 percent glue.

It's perfectly ok that you bought an American Special. Please don't judge American Made Fender Guitars by the Special line because that line was specifically marketed to people who don't want to buy Strats made in Mexico.

Upgrade your bridge, electronics and tuners.

Happy New Year,

~LD
 
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The bridge is flat, all the way down, 3 springs. I dont use the trem arm thats why I made it flat.

Well, even flat you don't want the screws tightened all the way–snug is the way to go. Being "flat" on the body is not just for those who don't use the bar (I have a Vintage "flat" on the body that uses the trem arm, you just can't pull up.)
 
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Those guitars are made to the same standards as the Mexican Strats which are made of wooden boards that are glued together to make a rectangle and then the bodies are cut from that. On a good day, those guitar bodies are around 5 or 6 percent glue.

Are glued joints known to be detrimental in some way, or is this another one of those "for it's own sake" dead-end measures of quality?
 
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^^ We need a special font colour for sarcasm......well actually not in this particular case.


OP, you said that the guitar sustains ok open strings and then not fretted.
If you have screwed the trem so that it is now flush/decked, by definition the saddles will now be lower. By doing this the setup that was on the guitar will have changed, and could well be close enough so that you are getting choking out of the notes due to the string vibrating on the frets slightly. You may well find that raising the saddles individually will return the sustain.

I have about an even spread of set neck and bolt on guitars. Acoustically I notice almost no difference in sustain. Plugged in is different as the pickup plays a large part in the signal generated and sent to the amp.
 
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Well, even flat you don't want the screws tightened all the way–snug is the way to go. Being "flat" on the body is not just for those who don't use the bar (I have a Vintage "flat" on the body that uses the trem arm, you just can't pull up.)

It's also important to actually pull up on the arm and see if there's any unseen play remaining. Looking flat and flush and making firm contact are two different things.
 
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It's not that they aren't "good". It's just...that's the cost cutting line of the Fender American brand.

Those guitars are made to the same standards as the Mexican Strats which are made of wooden boards that are glued together to make a rectangle and then the bodies are cut from that. On a good day, those guitar bodies are around 5 or 6 percent glue.

It's perfectly ok that you bought an American Special. Please don't judge American Made Fender Guitars by the Special line because that line was specifically marketed to people who don't want to buy Strats made in Mexico.

Upgrade your bridge, electronics and tuners.

Happy New Year,

~LD

O wow I didnt know that. I tought they were solid bodys or 2 piece. So I paid twice the money for a mexican strat?
 
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Here is an old trick, it might help, it might not help:

1. With the guitar tuned to pitch, loosen the 4 screws holding the neck to the guitar body about 1/4 of a turn each. You will hear a bit of creaking.
2. Tighten the screws again.
3. Re-tune the guitar to pitch.

Again, it might help, it might not but this can sometimes pull the neck into the pocket to make better contact with the body. It has helped me on two bolt-on neck Warmoths quite a bit.

It might not help, sometimes bad wood is just bad wood. Guitars can be hit or miss like that.
 
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