swapped my JB for a Fred in my Charvel....

appar111

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Just took possession of a used Charvel Wild Card #2 from 2009. Bone stock, alder body, maple neck w/ rosewood board, OFR and a Duncan JB trembucker.

First off, this is the prototypical hot-rodded rock and roll sound-- I've tried the JB in a few other guitars I've had (mostly hardtail strats, teles, etc.) and I've liked it in some, and not been so fond of it in others. In this guitar, it's a winner. Juicy, crunchy leads and rhythms and everything has this nice push and compression to it. Even sounds decent clean if your amp has the headroom (mine starts clipping fairly early, but at the volumes I play at home, it's not an issue).

I could very happily leave the JB in this Charvel and be totally happy. But being the chronic tinkerer that I am (and we all tend to be here...) I dug into my parts drawer to see what else I could pop in the Charvel, just for sh!ts and giggles...

I pulled out an f-spaced Dimarzio Fred that I've had laying around for a while. After a quick detune and a couple hits with the soldering iron, the Fred-equipped Charvel was up and running.

With the first chord played through the dirty channel, there was a marked difference. In place of that juicy, compressed awesome distortion from the JB, I was greeted with a much more direct, uncompressed "kerrrraaaang!" that had a really nice top end, almost like that of a fat single coil. But still plenty of body to it. "Direct" seems to be the best word to describe it.

Really nice for tight rhythm stuff, and an almost esquire-ness to lead lines. Switch over to the clean channel and the Fred spanks the JB :notworthy It's waaaay easier to do chicken-pickin' type lines and it just seems like a more versatile pickup for a single pickup guitar like the Charvel.

Which should I keep in the guitar? I'm so torn! The JB is just so friggin' rock and for playing damn near any kind of distorted rock, I just about can't lose. The Fred though has its own brand of rock-- a little more, I don't know... hifi sounding? Single coil-ish? It's nice to jump from dirty to clean channel and have a really nice useable clean tone. Not that the JB was bad, just a little harder to control due to its output pushing the front end of the amp more. And the instant kerrang out of the Fred is most righteous on the dirty channel.

Such a tough decision! What do you all think?

I've also got a pre 36th Anniversary PAF in the drawer that I feel may split the difference-- a more traditional humbucker-ish body to it, still bright but not in an esquire sort of way, and low output enough to sound great on cleans.

Anyway, just thought I'd share my findings!
 
Re: swapped my JB for a Fred in my Charvel....

Thanks for the review. I think I`ll stick to my JB but if i had an extra guitar or 2 lying around I`d love to try the Fred
 
Re: swapped my JB for a Fred in my Charvel....

Just took possession of a used Charvel Wild Card #2 from 2009. Bone stock, alder body, maple neck w/ rosewood board, OFR and a Duncan JB trembucker.

First off, this is the prototypical hot-rodded rock and roll sound-- I've tried the JB in a few other guitars I've had (mostly hardtail strats, teles, etc.) and I've liked it in some, and not been so fond of it in others. In this guitar, it's a winner. Juicy, crunchy leads and rhythms and everything has this nice push and compression to it. Even sounds decent clean if your amp has the headroom (mine starts clipping fairly early, but at the volumes I play at home, it's not an issue).

I could very happily leave the JB in this Charvel and be totally happy. But being the chronic tinkerer that I am (and we all tend to be here...) I dug into my parts drawer to see what else I could pop in the Charvel, just for sh!ts and giggles...

I pulled out an f-spaced Dimarzio Fred that I've had laying around for a while. After a quick detune and a couple hits with the soldering iron, the Fred-equipped Charvel was up and running.

With the first chord played through the dirty channel, there was a marked difference. In place of that juicy, compressed awesome distortion from the JB, I was greeted with a much more direct, uncompressed "kerrrraaaang!" that had a really nice top end, almost like that of a fat single coil. But still plenty of body to it. "Direct" seems to be the best word to describe it.

Really nice for tight rhythm stuff, and an almost esquire-ness to lead lines. Switch over to the clean channel and the Fred spanks the JB :notworthy It's waaaay easier to do chicken-pickin' type lines and it just seems like a more versatile pickup for a single pickup guitar like the Charvel.

Which should I keep in the guitar? I'm so torn! The JB is just so friggin' rock and for playing damn near any kind of distorted rock, I just about can't lose. The Fred though has its own brand of rock-- a little more, I don't know... hifi sounding? Single coil-ish? It's nice to jump from dirty to clean channel and have a really nice useable clean tone. Not that the JB was bad, just a little harder to control due to its output pushing the front end of the amp more. And the instant kerrang out of the Fred is most righteous on the dirty channel.

Such a tough decision! What do you all think?

I've also got a pre 36th Anniversary PAF in the drawer that I feel may split the difference-- a more traditional humbucker-ish body to it, still bright but not in an esquire sort of way, and low output enough to sound great on cleans.

Anyway, just thought I'd share my findings!

Only one solution...by another one for the Fred and another one for the 36th Anv. PAF :headbang::headbang::headbang:
 
Re: swapped my JB for a Fred in my Charvel....

LOL, yeah there's always that! I'm just getting used to floyded guitars-- this is only my 2nd.. the other being an EVH Wolfgang Special built from spare parts from Stratosphere on ebay..

This Charvel's floyd is floating, which I think does change the sound a bit-- I actually like it as much as the down-only type floyd setup. A little less low end resonance, which I like.
 
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Re: swapped my JB for a Fred in my Charvel....

Yeah, floating Floyds are great...until you break a string on stage and go hopelessly out of tune.
 
Re: swapped my JB for a Fred in my Charvel....

I'd go for the Fred. The Rawk of the JB is enticing, but the I'd go for the sound that's both less iconic and less compressed. I'm always trying to dial in the Kerrang and dial out the rock-in-a-box. Not that JB is rock-in-a-box, but you know what you're getting.
 
Re: swapped my JB for a Fred in my Charvel....

I've got the same Charvel if it's a fiesta Red direct mount single pickup jobber... I put a floyd upgrades brass block in mine which added some serious low end (at the expense of some of the high end I feel), but in any event I tried a lot of SD Trembuckers in there. TB-5 and 14 had tooooooo much bass, 78 was really good (shoulda kept it), pearly gates was another great surprise( very stringy sounding, but nice zing and decent punch on the palm mutes. Tried a 36th anniversary too, it was just mush in my guitar, 59/custom was Clanky and noisy, but alas the Perpetual Burn, just perfect, cleans up great, no crazy EQ spikes, and the highs are back without sounding thin. Not that this has anything to do with your question lol. It's hard to find a pickup with that kerrrang to it, Keeep the Fred for a while. It takes about 2 minutes to swap a pickup on these, so no problem to go back.
 
Re: swapped my JB for a Fred in my Charvel....

Yeah, floating Floyds are great...until you break a string on stage and go hopelessly out of tune.

Hate it when that happens! lol Happened in a Church service during the first song...after that Sunday I always brought two guitars just in case. lol
 
Re: swapped my JB for a Fred in my Charvel....

Got the same guitar and I've had a Duncan Custom in it since almost the day I got it.
 
Re: swapped my JB for a Fred in my Charvel....

I've got the same Charvel if it's a fiesta Red direct mount single pickup jobber... I put a floyd upgrades brass block in mine which added some serious low end (at the expense of some of the high end I feel), but in any event I tried a lot of SD Trembuckers in there. TB-5 and 14 had tooooooo much bass, 78 was really good (shoulda kept it), pearly gates was another great surprise( very stringy sounding, but nice zing and decent punch on the palm mutes. Tried a 36th anniversary too, it was just mush in my guitar, 59/custom was Clanky and noisy, but alas the Perpetual Burn, just perfect, cleans up great, no crazy EQ spikes, and the highs are back without sounding thin. Not that this has anything to do with your question lol. It's hard to find a pickup with that kerrrang to it, Keeep the Fred for a while. It takes about 2 minutes to swap a pickup on these, so no problem to go back.

yeah, I don't want anything with too much bass, too loud, etc. The JB is nice because it's got a loose enough bass, and enough of it, to still seem rock and roll, but without overdoing it. Like I said, it just works in this guitar. Same way the standard size Floyd block sounds in this guitar-- it just works. I thought about the big brass block, but I actually like the sound of the stock block (go figure!), so a pickup that's not too much in one direction or the other seems like a good match in this guitar, without it sounding bland or tepid at all. The Fred seems to be doing a good job with that so far! I've always got the JB as the default rock pickup to go back to if I feel the need to change.
 
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Re: swapped my JB for a Fred in my Charvel....

I don't recall my Khaler going out of tune when I broke a string.
 
Re: swapped my JB for a Fred in my Charvel....

I don't recall my Khaler going out of tune when I broke a string.

Seriously? What am I doing wrong on my set up then?? Every Floyd and Khaler I've ever used went seriously out of tune when the string broke...hence the only guitar I own now with a locking trem system (Khaler) is my 100% stock '86 Charvel.
 
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