takeuchi trs-101 floyd rose question
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stevie_bees
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Re: takeuchi trs-101 floyd rose question
I seem to recall that they were/are? used on Yamaha guitars. I'm pretty certain that I had one on a Yammy RGX321FP a few years ago, and it did it's job ok. Can't give you any more than that I'm afraid.
I seem to recall that they were/are? used on Yamaha guitars. I'm pretty certain that I had one on a Yammy RGX321FP a few years ago, and it did it's job ok. Can't give you any more than that I'm afraid.
Zerberus
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Re: takeuchi trs-101 floyd rose question
It´s the exact same trem as the:
Ibanez TRS
Jackson JT-580
Washburn S-500
and many other mid range imports.
Properly cared for and set up, it can provide a few years of relatively trouble free performance. But eventually it will start to fall apart and show signs of wear.
IMO much better to go with a Gotoh or OFR right from the get go and save money in the long run
It´s the exact same trem as the:
Ibanez TRS
Jackson JT-580
Washburn S-500
and many other mid range imports.
Properly cared for and set up, it can provide a few years of relatively trouble free performance. But eventually it will start to fall apart and show signs of wear.
IMO much better to go with a Gotoh or OFR right from the get go and save money in the long run
Ashurbanipal
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Re: takeuchi trs-101 floyd rose question
Yes, the knife edge is part of the base plate.
Fwiw, I have one of the same ilk (Lo TRS II) on my Ibanez - heavily used for the last seven years and it works well, despite the wear. One problem with these, from an engineering standpoint, is that sometimes the knife edge is too thick for the posts, which prevents the trem from returning to the zero point, thus impeding tuning stability.
One way to cure this is Chapstick and/or filing. When I got the guitar, I performed the Chapstick treatment and it worked out. These days I don't need to do it because the trem has thoroughly worn in. Though I am waiting for the day it starts giving out, going into year eight it shows no serious sign of functional impairment
As far as I know, these TRS derived trems are not of a hardened steel used by Floyd Rose, Gotoh, etc. so wear is going to be more pronounced over a shorter period of time. I've had to replace most of the saddles on mine because the area where the string rests upon being clamped by the locking block wore out, so the strings couldn't be locked anymore.
So, in all, if you want performance/longevity, then it's probably better to invest in something better, as Zerberus says. Depends on how heavy a user you are too.
Yes, the knife edge is part of the base plate.
Fwiw, I have one of the same ilk (Lo TRS II) on my Ibanez - heavily used for the last seven years and it works well, despite the wear. One problem with these, from an engineering standpoint, is that sometimes the knife edge is too thick for the posts, which prevents the trem from returning to the zero point, thus impeding tuning stability.
One way to cure this is Chapstick and/or filing. When I got the guitar, I performed the Chapstick treatment and it worked out. These days I don't need to do it because the trem has thoroughly worn in. Though I am waiting for the day it starts giving out, going into year eight it shows no serious sign of functional impairment
As far as I know, these TRS derived trems are not of a hardened steel used by Floyd Rose, Gotoh, etc. so wear is going to be more pronounced over a shorter period of time. I've had to replace most of the saddles on mine because the area where the string rests upon being clamped by the locking block wore out, so the strings couldn't be locked anymore.
So, in all, if you want performance/longevity, then it's probably better to invest in something better, as Zerberus says. Depends on how heavy a user you are too.
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Petrovsk Mizinski
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Re: takeuchi trs-101 floyd rose question
AFAIK the TRS trems on Ibanez 7 string guitars were vastly superior to the ones they had on their 6 strings. Some guys have Ibanez RG 7420s from 10 years ago with the trem still going strongs, whereas I hear lots of more reports about the TRS on the 6 strings going bust much earlier.
Get a real deal Gotoh, they deliver the goods. If possible, an Ibanez Edge Pro trem is also worthy of serious consideration
AFAIK the TRS trems on Ibanez 7 string guitars were vastly superior to the ones they had on their 6 strings. Some guys have Ibanez RG 7420s from 10 years ago with the trem still going strongs, whereas I hear lots of more reports about the TRS on the 6 strings going bust much earlier.
Get a real deal Gotoh, they deliver the goods. If possible, an Ibanez Edge Pro trem is also worthy of serious consideration
J
Jessie Sammler
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Re: takeuchi trs-101 floyd rose question
Ha! I knew those two were the same thing. No great shakes in either case, compared to an Ibanez Edge or an OFR.
Ha! I knew those two were the same thing. No great shakes in either case, compared to an Ibanez Edge or an OFR.
Zerberus
Baron Von Shred
Re: takeuchi trs-101 floyd rose question
I disagree, IMO the Edge PRO is the worst whore of a Floyd I´ve ever used. My biggest complaint is the redesigned hold down bar on the block now using screws so big that you´re essentially fvkecd to all eternity if you want to use something heavier than 10s and need more springs to compensate. Taking into account that I ran into this problem on a seven string baritone, a guitar I normally string up with 14-80, and that this in course made the guitar useless for me, I see that as a major design flaw. Especially since my RG 1077XL had no such issues (only difference bwetween tehos instruments is the Lo pro edge 7 on teh 1077XL vs the Edge Pro 7 on the newer 2077XL)
I`m also not a fan of the now non-locking posts or the saddle design which not only allows improper stringing but actually promotes it....Not to mention still using the low profile, high maintenance push in bar that eats up plastic crommets like jellybeans and limits down travel by bottoming out on the instrument´s top
The larger locking block and "bell brass" inserts in the saddles are nice touches, but these pale in comparison to the flaws.
IMO hardly worth the >200$ they cost new, especially when a Gotoh or OFR gioes for 150
The old Edges and Lo-Pro Edges were great (save the bar design), but the new Edge PROs do not convince me at all....
I disagree, IMO the Edge PRO is the worst whore of a Floyd I´ve ever used. My biggest complaint is the redesigned hold down bar on the block now using screws so big that you´re essentially fvkecd to all eternity if you want to use something heavier than 10s and need more springs to compensate. Taking into account that I ran into this problem on a seven string baritone, a guitar I normally string up with 14-80, and that this in course made the guitar useless for me, I see that as a major design flaw. Especially since my RG 1077XL had no such issues (only difference bwetween tehos instruments is the Lo pro edge 7 on teh 1077XL vs the Edge Pro 7 on the newer 2077XL)
I`m also not a fan of the now non-locking posts or the saddle design which not only allows improper stringing but actually promotes it....Not to mention still using the low profile, high maintenance push in bar that eats up plastic crommets like jellybeans and limits down travel by bottoming out on the instrument´s top
The larger locking block and "bell brass" inserts in the saddles are nice touches, but these pale in comparison to the flaws.
IMO hardly worth the >200$ they cost new, especially when a Gotoh or OFR gioes for 150
The old Edges and Lo-Pro Edges were great (save the bar design), but the new Edge PROs do not convince me at all....
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MKSkud
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Re: takeuchi trs-101 floyd rose question
I'm in the process of cleaning up an Ibanez LO-TRS right now... I've got it all apart, and this thing is solid and heavy. Its miles above any of the standard licensed floyds with the screw on collar arm. This is a good trem, definitely hardened steel. It's 7 years old, and has next to no wear on it. Just needs a cleaning.
I'm in the process of cleaning up an Ibanez LO-TRS right now... I've got it all apart, and this thing is solid and heavy. Its miles above any of the standard licensed floyds with the screw on collar arm. This is a good trem, definitely hardened steel. It's 7 years old, and has next to no wear on it. Just needs a cleaning.
gunslinger
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Re: takeuchi trs-101 floyd rose question
I have one on a late 80s B.C. Rich ST-III. In order to make the bridge last a long time and sound it's best, I installed five brand new springs and just use it as if it was a hard tail. I don't use the whammy bar at all. I don't think it's made as well as an original Floyd Rose or a Gotoh. At least the pivot points. Tone wise it sounds really good.
I have one on a late 80s B.C. Rich ST-III. In order to make the bridge last a long time and sound it's best, I installed five brand new springs and just use it as if it was a hard tail. I don't use the whammy bar at all. I don't think it's made as well as an original Floyd Rose or a Gotoh. At least the pivot points. Tone wise it sounds really good.
MetalManiac
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Re: takeuchi trs-101 floyd rose question
The Japanese Takeuchi is the same as a regular JT-580 Lo-Pro ( as found on many newer Jacksons) in specs, but is a significantly better built tremolo.
I like JT-580 Lo-Pro's, but have replaced all my normal JT-580 Lo Pro's with the Takeuchi Lo Profile unit..
The Japanese Takeuchi is the same as a regular JT-580 Lo-Pro ( as found on many newer Jacksons) in specs, but is a significantly better built tremolo.
I like JT-580 Lo-Pro's, but have replaced all my normal JT-580 Lo Pro's with the Takeuchi Lo Profile unit..
Re: takeuchi trs-101 floyd rose question
I was under the impression that the TRS-101 was Japanese, unlike the cheapo Lo-TRS 2 which is Korean pot metal garbage. I replaced a couple of them with the 101s on a lower end RG and one of those PG models and they've been working just fine ever since. I think the 101 is a great deal, especially for the $, and I like that they actually fit the weird routs those guitars come with, as opposed to the ofr which takes a little work to fit the recess properly.
I was under the impression that the TRS-101 was Japanese, unlike the cheapo Lo-TRS 2 which is Korean pot metal garbage. I replaced a couple of them with the 101s on a lower end RG and one of those PG models and they've been working just fine ever since. I think the 101 is a great deal, especially for the $, and I like that they actually fit the weird routs those guitars come with, as opposed to the ofr which takes a little work to fit the recess properly.
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